Skip to comments.Did you know? Obama’s half sister, born in Indonesia, has a Hawaiian Certification of Live Birth
Posted on 07/26/2009 11:03:19 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
Besides being the First Sister Maya has a HawaiiaCertification of Live Birth despite be born in Jakarta Indonesia.
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And where does it say she was born?
This raises a lot of legal questions, none of which will be asked of Obama and his marxist minions, including the clueless Robert Gibbs.
Another question, raised by a FRer the other night, is, that since some Obama people and FactCheck claimed to have seen the original Obama Birth Certificate in Hawaii, what did they see since the original was destroyed, by Hawaii’s admission, in 1991?
SOmething smells rotten, and it’s not in Denmark.
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THIS IS HUGH AND SERIES!!
An authentic "Certificate" of live birth.
Nice little fact I have never heard mentioned before.
The former has a “certificate” number and is referred to as a certificate. It is not fraudulent generically. It is what is issued currently by the state of Hawaii. I agree we need to see the latter document given the fact that the former can be issued regardless of where the individual was born. And there are some real questions about Obama’s copy.
Except: Just by sheer chance, this year, Hawaii CHANGED THE NAME of its “certification of live birth” printouts. Now, at the top it says “certificate of live birth.” This is going to create incredible confusion, as it is now going to be impossible to make a clear distinction between the two types of forms.
This happened just by chance.
Gregory Dall needs, however, to learn to write a sentence. According to his first sentence, Maya Obama had three parents.
I never did understand why they would black out the certificate number - that was always a red flag to me. It makes no sense to black out the certificate number - you would just pull up the same document.
Unless you wouldn’t...
Source of wealth for Obama and his mother: Obama’s grandmother Madelyn Dunham was vice president of the largest bank in Hawaii.
I'm with you, this is the crucial question that doesn't seem to be answered in the blog.
If her's doesn't say Hawaii (like Obama's) then the blog is bringing up a non-issue.
But what does hers list as her place of birth? I wish I could find where I read it, but I read that, yes, Hawaii will issue COLBs to those born elsewhere but it will still list where they were born. In other words, it won’t say they were born in Hawaii.
Well well well.
There is a photo online with the certificate number not blacked out (again, wish I could remember where I saw it. I roam the internet a lot and am not good at bookmarking my tracks). The explanation on the site I saw it was that at the time the Obama campaign released the scan they didn’t know if the cert. # was something that should be blacked out or not but have since learned it’s not necessary to block out.
But a pic of that cert. with the number intact is out there.
Got it - thanks. It would be interesting to verify, though.
The certificate # is "151 1961-010641".
Barry went to Occidental under the name Obama.
a child born of an American citizen can claim natural citizenship...you just register them with the embassy and they need to live in the US for part of their childhood.
the constitution about “natural born” citizen was to keep rich immigrants from coming to the US and trying to take over...
No, its just not "best evidence". It is a secondary, derivative docuement. A certified reproduction of the as-filed "Certificate of Live Birth" is certainly preferable, and can be obtained from the State of Hawaii on request. And, to the best of my knowledge, a primary document is REQUIRED for certain purposes, such as applying for a passport, or enrolling in Little League.
Besides being the First Sister Maya has a HawaiiaCertification of Live Birth despite be(ing) born in Jakarta Indonesia.
Thanks, Slings and Arrows.
Certification of live birth simply means Husseinama was born alive.
I have a question, this whole thing confuses me and I am trying to figure it out. When I got my kids birth certificate, I went to the local vital statistics office and filled out a form. They gave me a 1/2 sheet of paper that only has
Date of Birth
Place of Birth (city)
Mothers Maiden Name
It does have the file number, state seal, and registrars stamp.
I have a long(er) form BC myself (same state) but have never seen one for a youngster. Did they change everything? Could I request a long form from the state for my kids? This is the part that I can not quite grasp.
That certificate number is the number of the archival "Certificate of Live Birth". That's why it is described as the "Certificate Number" and not the "Certification Number." It is a reference to the primary document.
So, they know the Certificate number; pull up the file, copy it and give the nation a respite from all this nonsense.
Interestingly, on this site that contends that Obama's certificate is not real (because they claim it doesn't have raised seal, which other pictures of it show it does the example they show as a "real" certificate looks exactly like Obama's, ie. an electronic printout. Same with this purportedly "real" certificate.
If he did that, then he must have a fake Indonesian bc too. I question the validity of this. If Savage had that info, no way could he keep his mouth shut.
The only evidence that Maya Soetoro has a Hawaiian Certification of Live Birth comes from people who claim it was used as a template to forge Obama’s COLB. The evidence that Obama’s COLB is forged is weak. The evidence that Maya has a Hawaiian COLB is laughably weak.
Do you have ANYTHING useful to add to this discussion?
I didn’t think so.
Here is one link that says “Obama, under the name Barry Soetoro, received financial aid as a foreign student from Indonesia as an undergraduate at the school.”
And Obama’s mother worked for Tiny Tim Geithner’s father in Indonesia.
Well, that certainly clears up the matter. Thanks for your intelligent addition to this discussion.
Can you not see that is a fake article?
1.) Selma Got Me Born - LIAR, your parents felt safe enough to have you in 1961 - Selma had no effect on your birth, as Selma was in 1965.
2.) Father Was A Goat Herder - LIAR, he was a privileged, well educated youth, who went on to work with the Kenyan Government.
3.) Father Was A Proud Freedom Fighter - LIAR, he was part of one of the most corrupt and violent governments Kenya has ever had.
4.) My Family Has Strong Ties To African Freedom - LIAR, your cousin Raila Odinga has created mass violence in attempting to overturn a legitimate election in 2007, in Kenya. It is the first widespread violence in decades.
5.) My Grandmother Has Always Been A Christian - LIAR, she does her daily Salat prayers at 5am according to her own interviews. Not to mention, Christianity wouldnt allow her to have been one of 14 wives to 1 man.
6.) My Name is African Swahili - LIAR, your name is Arabic and Baraka (from which Barack came) means blessed in that language. Hussein is also Arabic and so is Obama.
7.) I Never Practiced Islam - LIAR, you practiced it daily at school, where you were registered as a Muslim and kept that faith for 31 years,until your wife made you change, so you could run for office.
8.) My School In Indonesia Was Christian - LIAR, you were registered as Muslim there and got in trouble in Koranic Studies for making faces (check your own book).
9.) I Was Fluent In Indonesian - LIAR, not one teacher says you could speak the language.
10.) Because I Lived In Indonesia, I Have More Foreign Experience - LIAR, you were there from the ages of 6 to 10, and couldnt even speak the language. What did you learn, how to study the Koran and watch cartoons.
11.) I Am Stronger On Foreign Affairs - LIAR, except for Africa (surprise) and the Middle East (bigger surprise), you have never been anywhere else on the planet and thus have NO experience with our closest allies.
12.) I Blame My Early Drug Use On Ethnic Confusion - LIAR, you were quite content in high school to be Barry Obama, no mention of Kenya and no mention of struggle to identify - your classmates said you were just fine.
13.)An Ebony Article Moved Me To Run For Office - LIAR, Ebony has yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesnt, and never did, exist.
14.) A Life Magazine Article Changed My Outlook On Life - LIAR, Life has yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesnt, and never did, exist.
15.) I Wont Run On A National Ticket In 08 - LIAR, here you are, despite saying, live on TV, that you would not have enough experience by then, and you are all about having experience first.
16.) Present Votes Are Common In Illinois - LIAR, they are common for YOU, but not many others have 130 NO VOTES.
17.) Oops, I Misvoted - LIAR, only when caught by church groups and democrats, did you beg to change your misvote.
18.) I Was A Professor Of Law - LIAR, you were a senior lecturer ON LEAVE.
19.) I Was A Constitutional Lawyer - LIAR, you were a senior lecturer ON LEAVE.
20.) Without Me, There Would Be No Ethics Bill - LIAR, you didnt write it,introduce it, change it, or create it. 21.) The Ethics Bill Was Hard To Pass - LIAR, it took just 14 days from start to finish.
22.) I Wrote A Tough Nuclear Bill - LIAR, your bill was rejected by your own party for its pandering and lack of all regulation - mainly because of your Nuclear Donor, Exelon, from which David Axelrod came.
23.) I Have Released My State Records - LIAR, as of March, 2008, state bills you sponsored or voted for have yet to be released, exposing all the special interests pork hidden within.
24.) I Took On The Asbestos Altgeld Gardens Mess - LIAR, you were part of a large group of people who remedied Altgeld Gardens. You failed to mention anyone else but yourself, in your books.
25.) My Economics Bill Will Help America - LIAR, your 111 economic policies were just combined into a proposal which lost 99-0, and even YOU voted against your own bill.
26.) I Have Been A Bold Leader In Illinois - LIAR, even your own supporters claim to have not seen BOLD action on your part.
27.) I Passed 26 Of My Own Bills In One Year - LIAR, they were not YOUR bills, but rather handed to you, after their creation by a fellow Senator, to assist you in a future bid for higher office.
28.) No One Contacted Canada About NAFTA - LIAR, the Candian Government issued the names and a memo of the conversation your campaign had with them.
29.) I Am Tough On Terrorism - LIAR, you missed the Iran Resolution vote on terrorism and your good friend Ali Abunimah supports the destruction of Israel.
30.) I Am Not Acting As President Yet - LIAR, after the NAFTA Memo, a dead terrorist in the FARC, in Colombia, was found with a letter stating how you and he were working together on getting FARC recognized officially.
31.) I Didnt Run Ads In Florida - LIAR, you allowed national ads to run 8-12 times per day for two weeks - and you still lost.
32.) I Won Michigan - LIAR, no you didnt.
33.) I won Nevada - LIAR, no you did not.
34.) I Want All Votes To Count - LIAR, you said let the delegates decide.
35.) I Want Americans To Decide - LIAR, you prefer caucuses that limit the vote, confuse the voters, force a public vote, and only operate during small windows of time.
36.) I passed 900 Bills in the State Senate - LIAR, you passed 26, most of which you didnt write yourself.
37.) My Campaign Was Extorted By A Friend - LIAR, that friend is threatening to sue if you do not stop saying this. Obama has stopped saying this.
38.) I Believe In Fairness, Not Tactics - LIAR, you used tactics to eliminate Alice Palmer from running against you.
39.) I Dont Take PAC Money - LIAR, you take loads of it.
40.) I dont Have Lobbysists - LIAR, you have over 47 lobbyists, and counting.
41.) My Campaign Had Nothing To Do With The 1984 Ad - LIAR, your own campaign worker made the ad on his Apple in one afternoon.
42.) My Campaign Never Took Over MySpace - LIAR, Tom, who started MySpace issued a warning about this advertising to MySpace clients.
43.) I Inspire People With My Words - LIAR, you inspire people with other peoples words.
44.) I Have Passed Bills In The U.S. Senate - LIAR, you have passed A BILL in the U.S. Senate - for Africa, which shows YOUR priorities.
45.) I Have Always Been Against Iraq - LIAR, you werent in office to vote against it AND you have voted to fund it every single time, unlike Kucinich, who seems to be out gutting you Obama. You also seem to be stepping back from your departure date - AGAIN.
46.) I Have Always Supported Universal Health Care - LIAR, your plan leaves us all to pay the 15,000,000 who dont have to buy it.
47.) I Only Found Out About My Investment Conflicts Via Mail - LIAR, both companies you site as having sent you letters about this conflict have no record of any such letter ever being created or sent.
48.) I Am As Patriotic As Anyone - LIAR, you wont wear a flag pin and you dont put your hand over your heart during the Anthem.
49.) My Wife Didnt Mean What She Said About Pride In Country - LIAR, your wifes words follow lock-step in the vein of Wright and Farrahkan, in relation to their contempt and hatred of America.
50.) Wal-Mart Is A Company I Wouldnt Support - LIAR, your wife has received nearly a quater of a million dollars through Treehouse, which is connected to Wal-Mart.
51.) Treehouse Is A Small Company - LIAR, the CEO of Treehouse last year, made more than the CEO of Wal-Mart, according to public records.
52.) University Of Chicago Hospital Pay Is Fair - LIAR, your wifes pay raise was nearly 150% her already bloated rate and the hospital is a Non-Profit Hospital, which made $100,000,000 in the last 3 years. They overcharge blacks VS whites for services, and overcharge everyone in general by 538%!
53.)I Barely Know Rezko - Only 5 Billed Hours - LIAR, you have known him for 17 years, and decided to do a real estate deal with him during a time when he was proven to be under investigation. Despite this, you divided your property and had them take off $300K before the mortgage problems started. Then Rezkos wife buys the lot beside it that you cant afford, saving you $625,000.
54.) My Donations Have Been Checked Thoroughly - LIAR, you only gave back Hsu ($72K) and Rezko (first $66K, then when caught lying $86K, then when caught lying again $150K and now caught lying YET AGAIN OBAMA, its $250k) their money when publically called on their involvement in your campaigns.
55.) My Church Is Like Any Other Christian Church - LIAR, your church is so extreme, the pastor who married you, Rev. Wright, just got done blaming the US for 9/11 and named Louis Farrahkan their person of the year.
56.) I Disagree With My Church All The Time - LIAR, you still have yet to repudiate Wright, who married you and your wife, and you still donate large sums of money to assist the church in furthering its message - hatred and revenge. You donated in 2006 alone, $22,500 to the church that you so terribly disagree with. That is nearly $500 PER WEEK - that sure is disagreement, Senator Obama.
57.) I Have Clean Connections Despite Rezko - LIAR, you are not only connected to Exelon and Rezko, you are also connected to Hillary PAC supporter Mr. Hsu, AND an Iraqi Billionaire of ill repute, Nadhmi Auchi, who ripped off people in the Food For Oil, Iraqi deal. Seems Mr. Auchi may have helped Obama buy his million dollar property long before Obama had millions of dollars. Wonder what favors Mr. Auchi expects, when Obama leaves Iraq free to be taken over by special interests such as him.
58.) I never heard sermons like Rev. Wrights, that have been in videos all day, You Tube - LIAR! 3 days later during your Mea Culpa BS speech you said Did I hear controversial statements while I sat in that church? Yes I did.
59.) The Passport Invasion is a conspiracy to find dirt on me! - LIAR. Your own Campaign Foreign Policy Advisor is the CEO of the company that looked into your records. PS - You had them look into yours to hide the fact you looked into Clintons and McCains more than a year before!
60.) Rev. Meeks has nothing to do with my campaigning - LIAR. Rev. Meeks appeared in ads for your Senate Campaign, donated to you, and helped raise money, then AND NOW. PS - He also seems to despise America.
61.) My wife didnt mean America is ignorant, she was just using a phrase - LIAR. Again, MicHELLes comments perfectly sync with Wrights, Meeks, and Farrakhans, both in language, anger, and direction.
62.) I am very Anti-Terror - LIAR. [03/30/2008] One of your good pals is long time radical and terrorist William Ayers, with whom you have been seen in the last 12 months and who has helped the now jailed khalidi, Professor at Columbia who invited Ahmadinejad to the University, to raise money for Palestinian terrorism attacks against Israel. PS - Your church published a pro Hamas Manifesto - guess you werent there on THAT Sunday either? How lucky for you.
63.) I have the best plan to cure the Mortgage Crisis - LIAR. [03/30/2008] You and your campaign buddy Penny SubPrime Bank Collapse Prizker have had your little fingers full of subprime cash - Obama has taken $1,180,103 from the top issuers of subprime loans: Obama received $266,907 from Lehman, $5395 from GMAC, $150,850 from Credit Suisse First Boston, $11,250 from Countrywide, $9052 from Washington Mutual, $161,850 from Citigroup, $4600 from CBASS, $170,050 from Morgan Stanley, $1150 from Centex, and last but certainly NOT LEAST - Obama received $351,900 from Goldman Sachs. I am sure that cash all came from folks who knew the subprime loan they had was a dream, eh?
64) I played greater role in crafting liberal stands on gun control, the death penalty and abortion - LIAR - [03/31/2008] It was found that Obama the day after sitting for the interview filed an amended version of the questionnaire, which appears to contain Obamas own handwritten notes added to one answer. Read Obama had greater role on liberal survey
65) I did NOT play the race card: - LIAR - [03/31/2008] Obama was the first to play the race card. According to Phialdelphia Inquirer, Quietly, the storm over the hateful views expressed by Sen. Barack Obamas pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, has blown away the most insidious myth of the Democratic primary campaign. Obama and his surrogates have charged that Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton has deliberately and cleverly played the race card in order to label Obama the black candidate.
The number you refer to, 151 1961-010641, is the File Number on Obama’s “Certificate of Live Birth”.
This is NOT the serial number of the “Certification of Live Birth” which really is little more than an acknowledgement that a Certificate of Live Birth is on file.
If you went into a bar as a 21 year old, and you were carded, and instead of a license, you produced a letter from your mother promising that your license, shwoing that you were of legal age, was safely tucked away in your mother’s sock drawer, how many drinks would you expect to be served?
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