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To: ClearCase_guy; Balding_Eagle; RicocheT

I understand your concerns, but the child has no choice in the matter. At some point, it becomes obvious that prayer and faith aren’t working.

Everyone agrees that there ARE limits on your freedom of religion. How far does freedom of religion go? We can all agree that human sacrifice is unacceptable as well as mutilation, ritualistic rape or beatings or physical harm of another human, etc.

But how about allowing someone to become harmed through inaction? Does freedom of religion go to the point of allowing a parent to let a child die when medical care is available?

These are tough questions and I am not ashamed to admit that they are WAY above my pay grade.


12 posted on 07/27/2009 8:56:19 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Obamacare: all the efficiency of the DMV and all the compassion of the IRS.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants; Arguendo
How far does freedom of religion go?

It's a good question, and I don't pretend to have an answer. But I will say this:

A 40-day fast? A child who starts to fade and seems to be starving to death? Well, I'd say that intentionally withholding food to the point of causing death is not acceptable. Our bodies require food at all points of our lives, and to withhold food from someone to the point of feath is immoral.

Human sacrifice? Physical harm? Again, I would say that these are wrong. To physically assault another human as a "method of worship" is not something I would want to justify.

Now, here's where I would draw the line: A modern medical technique, which can only be developed by an advanced, industrialized society ought to be optional.

Progress is fine for those who want it, but I don't think "progress" ought to be mandatory. I don't like the idea of government forcing whatever is latest and greatest on my family. I would never take the step of trying to withhold progress from your family, should they wish to take advantage of insulin or chemotherapy -- but if some family were to tell me that their relationship with God requires them to pass up the latest medical techniques, I just don't see how (or why) society should force them.

I would also say that this gets into socialized medicine and the cost of that. Cancer treatments are not cheap. I say I don't want it -- but government says I must have it. Okay. That means government will pay for it, right? Don't we run the risk of going down the road of unfunded mandates -- you MUST buy this level of healthcare! Or, alternatively, everyone's tax dollars will be used so that your sick child will get whatever medical care the government thinks is appropriate. Obama thinks like that -- but I don't.

On the basis of religious freedom, medical freedom, economic freedom, and personal responsibility, I think that choosing to pass up on medical care ought to be a legal option.

14 posted on 07/27/2009 10:01:48 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: Blood of Tyrants
These are tough questions and I am not ashamed to admit that they are WAY above my pay grade.

They are not above mine.

See my post above this one. The politcal danger is so clear, so huge, even a blind man can see it with 20/20 clarity.

17 posted on 07/27/2009 3:19:54 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Overproduction, one of the top five worries for the American farmer.)
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