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In Virginia Gubernatorial Race, It's About Who's More Pro-Gun
WP ^ | Monday, July 27, 2009 | Fredrick Kunkle

Posted on 07/27/2009 10:24:14 AM PDT by HokieMom

Walking the jam-packed aisles of Virginia's biggest gun show, Richard Begay carried a .30-06 Sauer hunting rifle and a hand-lettered cardboard sign on his back asking $1,199.

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The question of how much to regulate the sale and possession of guns has always been a dividing line in Virginia political contests. This year's gubernatorial candidates -- former attorney general Robert F. McDonnell (R) and state Sen. R. Creigh Deeds (D) -- both have extensive pro-gun records. But the campaign is unfolding at a turbulent and uncertain time in the nation's debate over guns. One unresolved issue in Virginia, where 36 percent of households have a firearm, is whether to close the so-called gun show loophole, which permits freelance sellers like Begay.

The issue gained momentum after the April 2007 Virginia Tech shooting, which left 33 dead, including the student gunman.

"Virginia is ground zero for this debate," said Alexander Howe, a spokesman for Americans United for Safe Streets. Legislation to require background checks for every transaction at a gun show is pending in Congress as both sides strive for the advantage.

President Obama's election triggered a surge in sales among gun buyers, who feared that he and a Democratic-led Congress would push for new regulations. Instead, gun owners have cheered moves by Congress to allow people to carry concealed weapons in national parks and to link voting rights for the District to looser gun regulations.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: banglist; gunvote; mcdonnell; va2009
McDonnell for Virginia Governor
1 posted on 07/27/2009 10:24:15 AM PDT by HokieMom
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To: HokieMom
In Virginia Gubernatorial Race, It's About Who's More Pro-Gun

Damn straight!

2 posted on 07/27/2009 10:28:23 AM PDT by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: P8riot

Is McDonnell pro-gun enough now to earn the endorsement of the NRA? The article claims they endorsed Deeds last time.


3 posted on 07/27/2009 10:31:03 AM PDT by HokieMom (Pacepa : Can the U.S. afford a president who can't recognize anti-Americanism?)
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To: HokieMom

McDonnell is an A+ on guns in my book. He should also be with the NRA.


4 posted on 07/27/2009 10:32:53 AM PDT by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: HokieMom

McDonnell is an A+ on guns in my book. He should also be with the NRA.


5 posted on 07/27/2009 10:33:01 AM PDT by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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In the article, a different Hokie mom says:
"The focus of the families of Virginia Tech, given the magnitude of the tragedy, is the desire to make sure that that pain and suffering and grief is not foisted on anyone else," Haas said. "We suspect that the average seller at a gun show would be more than happy to ask the potential buyer to take the two minutes necessary to do a background check, knowing that that could save the life of their son or daughter, their father or their mother, their grocer or their convenience store clerk, their sheriff or their police officer or their fellow citizen."

My understanding is the shooter at Virginia Tech did undergo a background check and passed because mental health records were disallowed for review at that time.

6 posted on 07/27/2009 10:35:44 AM PDT by HokieMom (Pacepa : Can the U.S. afford a president who can't recognize anti-Americanism?)
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To: P8riot

Good, I’m really sick of the recent trend for dims to win in VA.


7 posted on 07/27/2009 10:36:14 AM PDT by east1234 (It's the borders stupid! My new environmentalist inspired tagline: cut, kill, dig and drill)
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To: P8riot
McDonnell is an A+ on guns in my book. He should also be with the NRA.

That's good. Law enforcement seems to like him, too. 111 Public Safety Leaders Form “Law Enforcement for McDonnell” Coalition

8 posted on 07/27/2009 10:45:19 AM PDT by HokieMom (Pacepa : Can the U.S. afford a president who can't recognize anti-Americanism?)
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To: HokieMom

never trust a guy who poarts his name on the side..


9 posted on 07/27/2009 11:11:41 AM PDT by rahbert
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To: HokieMom

never trust a guy who parts his name on the side..


10 posted on 07/27/2009 11:11:48 AM PDT by rahbert
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To: rahbert

LOL! OK laddie.


11 posted on 07/27/2009 11:25:45 AM PDT by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: P8riot

There is already an NICS check for purchasers of guns sold at gun shows. This media/leftist advanced fraud has been around forever and is totally untrue. There is no “gunshow” loophole.


12 posted on 07/27/2009 12:09:01 PM PDT by Oldpuppymax (AGENDA OF THE LEFT EXPOSED)
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To: HokieMom

Since when is there a background check for rifles and shotguns? I thought that only handguns were covered by that.


13 posted on 07/27/2009 1:55:36 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet ("I won't invade the US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass." Admiral IsorokoYamamoto)
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The article claims they endorsed Deeds last time.

Deeds moved decidedly to the left after the Virginia Tech shootings.

He's self-described as being in the "Warner-Kaine" tradition.

Translation: "I'll lie my @$$ off to win, then I'll do what my lib buddies want me to anyway."

14 posted on 07/27/2009 3:21:46 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands ("Failed Obama Administration" (TM))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; P8riot
Since when is there a background check for rifles and shotguns? I thought that only handguns were covered by that.

I don't know though P8riot might.

15 posted on 07/27/2009 5:22:14 PM PDT by HokieMom (Pacepa : Can the U.S. afford a president who can't recognize anti-Americanism?)
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To: Corin Stormhands
Deeds moved decidedly to the left after the Virginia Tech shootings.

So THAT's why the WP endorsed him.

16 posted on 07/27/2009 5:26:21 PM PDT by HokieMom (Pacepa : Can the U.S. afford a president who can't recognize anti-Americanism?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

There is a federal background check, the NICS check, along with a state check run on any firearm purchase from a dealer in Virginia, regardless of where the dealer makes the sale. Every state has the NICS requirement for dealers and I believe most, if not all, also run a state check.

In Virginia, like most states, in-state private sales, commonly called face-to-face, do not require a background check. e.g., if you’re a Virginia resident who isn’t a dealer and you want to sell your shotgun, rifle or pistol to your friend down the street who’s also a Va resident, you don’t have to run a background check or keep a record of the sale.

In fact, there is no mechanism for an individual to run a background check - if you wanted to do it, you would have to go to a dealer and pay a transaction fee to have them process the sale.

Purchases from a dealer require the background check, regardless of whether it’s at a gun show or at the dealer’s store. Private transactions don’t require a check, regardless of whether it’s at a gun show or at another location.

The anti-gun liars would have you believe the laws are different at a gun show. In Virginia, the exact same laws apply. There is no loophole.

Some states have passed laws requiring background checks for all sales at gun shows whether by dealers or private parties. That’s what the anti’s are pushing for in Virginia.


17 posted on 07/27/2009 5:57:25 PM PDT by javachip (TARP - proof there is no situation so bad that government can't make it worse.)
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To: HokieMom; 2ndDivisionVet

Purchases of all modern firearms (black powder guns are not covered - yet) whether they be handguns, rifles, or shotguns through a dealer require a background check. Depending on where you live private transactions do not require a background check.


18 posted on 07/27/2009 7:07:19 PM PDT by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: P8riot

Thanks for the explanation.


19 posted on 07/27/2009 8:06:43 PM PDT by HokieMom (Pacepa : Can the U.S. afford a president who can't recognize anti-Americanism?)
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At first debate, hopefuls McDonnell and Deeds clash over road funds in the Richmond paper.
20 posted on 07/27/2009 8:12:31 PM PDT by HokieMom (Pacepa : Can the U.S. afford a president who can't recognize anti-Americanism?)
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To: Oldpuppymax

not for long guns sold between private individuals. that’s the “loophole” they want closed.


21 posted on 07/28/2009 8:18:04 AM PDT by absolootezer0 (thank God for Chicago: makes Detroit look wholesome by comparison.)
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