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Prosecutor: Dad Threw Girl Off Cliff to Avoid Child Support
Foxnews ^ | 7/27/2009 | Staff

Posted on 07/27/2009 2:36:29 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA

LOS ANGELES — A father who had no interest in his 4-year-old daughter did the unimaginable — hurling her off a 120-foot cliff to avoid paying child support, a prosecutor said Monday during the man's murder retrial.

Cameron Brown, 47, has pleaded not guilty to one count of murder in the death of Lauren Sarene Key in November 2000. If convicted, he could face life in prison without parole.

Deputy District Attorney Craig Hum said during his opening statement that Brown killed Lauren because he didn't want to pay about $1,000 a month in child support.

Defense attorney Pat Harris countered that it was an accident when the girl fell from Inspiration Point in Rancho Palos Verdes.

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KEYWORDS: childabuse; childmurder; crime
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1 posted on 07/27/2009 2:36:30 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA
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To: Red in Blue PA

Mr. Brown is probably one of the most stupid humans to walk on the face of the planet.


2 posted on 07/27/2009 2:38:33 PM PDT by Don'tMessWithTexas
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To: Red in Blue PA

a special part of Hell reserved for that guy


3 posted on 07/27/2009 2:39:04 PM PDT by cowtowney
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To: Red in Blue PA

Someday, in a better world, this subhuman thing will pay for what he did to that poor child.

DOWN TO THE LAST PENNY.


4 posted on 07/27/2009 2:40:04 PM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Texan. Monarchist. Any questions?)
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To: Don'tMessWithTexas

Don’t forget evil in that list of adjectives.


5 posted on 07/27/2009 2:40:44 PM PDT by Vindibudd
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To: Red in Blue PA

If he is guilty of doing that to a child, I tremble at the thought of him in the hands of an just and angry God.


6 posted on 07/27/2009 2:41:22 PM PDT by Mr. Jazzy ("I AM JIM THOMPSON!!!")
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To: Red in Blue PA
I was curious what a guy who would do that looked like, but can't find a picture of him. Here's one of his daughter, Lauren, however:


7 posted on 07/27/2009 2:42:06 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Red in Blue PA

I remember this case. How utterly evil and depraved.


8 posted on 07/27/2009 2:42:24 PM PDT by rom (Israel got Saul before they got David. Where's our David?)
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To: Red in Blue PA

I read about another case like this. It was proved the victim’s injuries were consistent with being thrown out and away from the cliff, and then falling down....not falling over and tumbling and clawing to try to stop the fall.

May justice be done for this tiny girl


9 posted on 07/27/2009 2:42:34 PM PDT by silverleaf (If you can't be a good example, at least don't be a horrible lesson)
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To: B-Chan

Send him to China. After all, he probably has lots of healthy organ tissue that can be put to good use.


10 posted on 07/27/2009 2:42:43 PM PDT by Bushwacker777
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To: Red in Blue PA

Or send him to Iran. There they just hang the rope around your neck and pull you up. Takes a while that way but far more entertaining.


11 posted on 07/27/2009 2:44:31 PM PDT by Bushwacker777
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To: Cicero

What a sweet and innocent looking child — though of course at that age, they pretty much all are.

How evil must you be to throw her down a cliff and watch her scream and fight for her life?


12 posted on 07/27/2009 2:45:39 PM PDT by rom (Israel got Saul before they got David. Where's our David?)
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To: Red in Blue PA

I think I will wait to hear what evidence (If any) there is.

So far all they said is that he had demanded a paternity test. I want something more damning than that before I spew fire.

Nifong was pretty good at getting people riled up with his fabrications. And he is not an aberration within the District Attorney profession by any stretch of the imagination.


13 posted on 07/27/2009 2:46:04 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Bushwacker777
he probably has lots of healthy organ tissue that can be put to good use.

Not a heart nor a brain.
14 posted on 07/27/2009 2:47:07 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (If guns cause crime, then all of mine are defective!)
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To: Red in Blue PA

I want this monster dead.


15 posted on 07/27/2009 2:47:14 PM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Impeach the sumbeech)
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To: Red in Blue PA

If convicted, he could face life in prison without parole.

Wow, life without parole. WHAT ABOUT THE DEATH PENALTY?


16 posted on 07/27/2009 2:47:18 PM PDT by Sir Clancelot
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To: Red in Blue PA

I remember this case. There is NO WAY you take a little child “hiking” along those cliffs. There are great kid-friendly trails not far from there. And how suspicious he was afterwards. GUILTY. I wish it had been him over the cliff instead.


17 posted on 07/27/2009 2:47:55 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: MrEdd

Who in their right mind would do such a horrendous evil thing like that to such a beautiful creature? My daughter is 4, and I couldn’t even dream on my worst day in the world even imagine the thought of doing something like this. I’m suprised that there wasn’t a capital punishment conviction.
I’m gonna be ticked off about this one for a while...


18 posted on 07/27/2009 2:49:46 PM PDT by jblann1
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To: Red in Blue PA

Worthless POS. Put this word in your vocab, a-hole: Consequences.

Go with God, Little One.


19 posted on 07/27/2009 2:49:51 PM PDT by greatplains
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To: Red in Blue PA

There is not enough information in the story to form an opinion.

I will say this though: Based on what I am reading in the article, even if everything the prosecution says is true (other than what actually happened at the cliff), it only gives motive and opportunity. If there is no incriminating physical evidence, I’d find the guy not guilty, but I would be highly suspicious that he probably did it.

I’ve learned in court that a Jury can get a hopelessly skewed view of the character of a person - in either direction.


20 posted on 07/27/2009 2:50:15 PM PDT by RobRoy (This too will pass. But it will hurt like a you know what.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

So, this was a full-birth-abortion?


21 posted on 07/27/2009 2:52:21 PM PDT by donna (We know he had a birth...but WHERE was he BORN?)
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To: rom

>>This too will pass. But it will hurt like a you know what.<<

I only know what I read in the article. If I had followed the original case, I might feel a touch differently.

However, if he is guilty, his activity would not be odd for an intelligent atheist. It would be highly pragmatic.

It would also be repugnant to any religious or agnostic person.


22 posted on 07/27/2009 2:52:55 PM PDT by RobRoy (This too will pass. But it will hurt like a you know what.)
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To: Sir Clancelot
Wow, life without parole. WHAT ABOUT THE DEATH PENALTY?

Aside from the cost to society: if you were to choose life w/o parole or death for yourself, what would you choose? I personally might prefer execution because it would be too depressing to live without hope, and death comes in the end anyway.

23 posted on 07/27/2009 2:55:35 PM PDT by Greysard
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To: Cicero
Here's the sorry SOB.


24 posted on 07/27/2009 2:55:39 PM PDT by girlscout (Why didn't Noah swat those two mosquitoes?)
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To: jblann1

So all you really need is an allegation right? Say three hulking college athletes gang raped a stripper in a tiny bathroom?

Is that now the standard?
No evidence needed?
A tenuous motive?

A little girl is dead. That is tragic.
Convicting her father of murder - whether he is guilty or not won’t bring her back.

Convicting her killer on the basis of evidence is justice.
Convicting her father with hearsay is a lynch mob.
I’m not that into the lynch mob thing, thank you very much.


25 posted on 07/27/2009 2:59:03 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Cicero

Based on the photo, she is the epitome of sweetness and light. How sad that such horror was visited upon her.


26 posted on 07/27/2009 3:00:03 PM PDT by 12Gauge687 (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice)
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To: Red in Blue PA
What an idiot. He and the girls mother could have murdered her in the womb and walked scott free!
27 posted on 07/27/2009 3:00:26 PM PDT by fish hawk (Lord, help us to attain knowledge and the wisdom to apply it toward your ultimate will.)
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To: girlscout

He just looks evil. Those are dead eyes.


28 posted on 07/27/2009 3:03:19 PM PDT by chae (I am karmic retribution)
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To: MrEdd

Innocent until proven guilty? You mean mob justice isn’t what our country was founded on???

Poor little girl, so many people would love to have her as a daughter.


29 posted on 07/27/2009 3:04:07 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: girlscout

Guilty.


30 posted on 07/27/2009 3:06:26 PM PDT by agooga (Struggling every day to be worthy of their sacrifice.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

What... he couldn’t just throw himself off?? Then he would not have to worry about paying anything.


31 posted on 07/27/2009 3:08:51 PM PDT by KarenMarie (NEVER believe anything coming out of DC until it's been denied.)
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To: girlscout

Pray this time there`s no deadlocked jury.

Murder one . God Almighty,a 4 year old girl.


32 posted on 07/27/2009 3:09:31 PM PDT by Harold Shea (RVN `70 - `71)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Guilty


33 posted on 07/27/2009 3:09:41 PM PDT by mmyers153
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To: agooga

I think that trip to the cliff would be an eye-opener. Depending on what I’ve heard about it being true, no parent would take a 4 yr old there because of how unsafe it is. Possibly manslaughter at least.


34 posted on 07/27/2009 3:11:57 PM PDT by youturn (Those who preach tolerance seem to have the least for my views.)
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To: jblann1
Who in their right mind would do such a horrendous evil thing like that to such a beautiful creature? My daughter is 4, and I couldn’t even dream on my worst day in the world even imagine the thought of doing something like this.

The problem here is with divorce and child-support law that essentially reduces many men to being slaves to their ex-wives and children.

It's one thing to see yourself as a provider that's part of a family.

It's another to see yourself as beast of burden and getting little back in return -- no love, minimal family time, nothing.

Sure, the guy's a monster, but sometimes our own system creates monsters.

35 posted on 07/27/2009 3:13:21 PM PDT by mc6809e
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To: Red in Blue PA

Death penalty.


36 posted on 07/27/2009 3:17:40 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Cicero

What a beautiful child. How could this happen?


37 posted on 07/27/2009 3:18:27 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: silverleaf
Correct.

Trajectory calculations can be done from the point of impact to determine whether somebody fell or was pushed.

One of the chapters in this very interesting book deals with expert testimony on this very point - although in that case it was whether the man jumped or fell.


38 posted on 07/27/2009 3:18:31 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: Greysard

I personally might prefer execution because it would be too depressing to live without hope, and death comes in the end anyway.

I think if you or I were sitting on death row, we might want to live. I think that is why so many felons on death row fight their death penalty.


39 posted on 07/27/2009 3:19:50 PM PDT by Sir Clancelot
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To: MrEdd
From the link...
He was tried...the biggest problem was deciding which murder conviction he should receive.

Brown was tried three years ago, but a mistrial was declared after a jury deadlocked on the severity of the crime. Some jurors favored a first-degree murder conviction, while others voted for second-degree murder or manslaughter.
40 posted on 07/27/2009 3:20:08 PM PDT by novemberslady
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To: silverleaf
I read about another case like this. It was proved the victim’s injuries were consistent with being thrown out and away from the cliff, and then falling down....not falling over and tumbling and clawing to try to stop the fall.

Simple physics can demonstrate that. Tumbling down an embankment sort of thing is not the same thing as being launched.

41 posted on 07/27/2009 3:20:56 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: trisham

...by throwing off the same cliff, with a rope tied to his foot. Drag him back and drop him four times. One for every year of that baby’s life and the h@ll he has given to the mother forever.

If he is guilty, I vote for that.


42 posted on 07/27/2009 3:22:48 PM PDT by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: Greysard
Aside from the cost to society: if you were to choose life w/o parole or death for yourself, what would you choose? I personally might prefer execution because it would be too depressing to live without hope, and death comes in the end anyway.

An eye for an eye. The Grand Canyon might be about the same scale for his height and weight.

43 posted on 07/27/2009 3:23:22 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: wagglebee

ping


44 posted on 07/27/2009 3:24:54 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: MrEdd
There's a difference between sitting on a jury and sitting in front of a keyboard.

Anything we say here has little if any effect on the outcome of the case.

Now, if a major daily newspaper in the county from which the jury pool would be drawn, or 88 professors at a local university ditto, decided to declare him guilty without any evidence, or if the District Attorney lied, concealed exculpatory evidence, and tried the case in the newspapers, THAT would be a whole lot closer to a lynch mob.

By the way, a number of people have been convicted on hearsay evidence, if it falls under one of the exceptions to the hearsay rule. And circumstantial evidence (which I think is what is really involved here) has sent plenty of folks to the chair or the Big House.

But fortunately for the defendant and for our peace of mind (and likely our souls), we don't have the power to convict anybody on the basis of a pretrial news story.

I will say this -- IF CONVICTED, he ought to burn. Horrible crime and an absolutely inexcusable motive.

45 posted on 07/27/2009 3:26:15 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: girlscout

Well, the jury has to decide on the evidence. But he sure looks just the way you’d expect a vile murderer to look.

What a contrast between him and his daughter. Not so much his looks as his expression—what comes through the eyes and the set of his mouth.


46 posted on 07/27/2009 3:26:57 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Red in Blue PA

I think this man is a disgusting human being.

Now if I may... how many women do the equivalent before birth for the same reason essentially.


47 posted on 07/27/2009 3:42:13 PM PDT by autumnraine (You can't fix stupid, but you can vote it out!)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Too many people in this country have no respect for life.

It’s just so heartbreaking.

I weep for that poor little one.


48 posted on 07/27/2009 3:42:31 PM PDT by Carley (OBAMA IS A MALEVOLENT FORCE IN THE WORLD)
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To: Red in Blue PA
Seems odd, but prison inmates have a code of acceptable crimes, believe it or not. Child molesters and other crimes against children don't go over very well. I'll be surprised if he survives the 6 months in prison.
49 posted on 07/27/2009 3:43:23 PM PDT by voveo
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To: Cicero

Almost makes you hope the Islamic view of Hell is correct.


50 posted on 07/27/2009 3:44:25 PM PDT by Bushwacker777
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