Posted on 07/28/2009 6:39:20 AM PDT by shortstop
Put “Clayton Bigsby” in charge. He is our only hope. Google his name.
Here is my “dialogue” on race:
The victory is won.
Equality of OPPORTUNITY has existed in America for decades.
Good point.
As is Lonsberry’s point that there we never have dialogue, only lecture by one side.
So, in the spirit of the current health care debate, here’s a suggestion for Obama, our young internist-trainee in residence:
how about looking at the past as a wound that has been trying to form scar tissue but is constantly picked apart by busy fingers?
Leave it alone and it might heal.
Its hard to discuss the race issue as a “race” issue as blacks and whites are individuals and as individuals have different perspectives and prejudices.
Not all Whites and not all Blacks are racists. There are still some white racists. There are black racists.
There are blacks like Clarence Thomas and Alan Keyes who are on “our” side politically - they are conservatives.
There are many whites like the collection of freaks around Obama who are not.
Having said that, there are a number of black racist hucksters like Shapeton and Jackson who have a vested interest in keeping the fires of racism stoked and generating racism where it would not normally, or should not normally exist in an issue.
Finally, there is a serious problem in the Black Community, which is spreading into the White Community, with respect to children, particularly male children, with no father figure in the family. Part of this has its roots in slavery, part of it has its genesis in liberal Democrat urban political machines of the 1950s and 1960s offering higher welfare benefits to southern blacks to draw them north for their votes, and in the white community the “Playboy Philosophy of the 1950s and later decdeswhcih presents sex some kind of indoor athetic event instead of a special intimate bond between a man and a woman.
Regardless, unfathered male children very often grow up to become asocial, violent, criminal individuals who gravitate towards gangs which offer the kind of strong parental surrogate figure missing in their lives.
Violent crime, drugs, welfare problems, veneral diseases, lack of work ethic, racism, and gun violence all have their roots in this phenomenon.
Liberal social policies are at the very root these issues.
Unless America comes to grip with these problems and stops making excuses for males who produce children and then abandon them, the problem will destroy us.
Obama and Gates’ collaboration on their staged “teaching moment” to spur a “dialogue on race” was an epic fail.
It seems we've done nothing BUT talk about race for the past 55 or so years. Besides, when they say "dialog on race," what they really mean is a monologue. Blacks gripe and vent, whites cower and grovel and pay up.
It works great!
No, just in African America.
Here, I have some more for your starter:
Starting [click] now, everyone plays by the same set of rules and gets the rewards and consequences of their choices within the same boundaries, regardless of skin color or ethnicity.
No more set asides, no more special rules, no more “affirmative action”, no more special loan programs, college programs, nor “black” organizations. All skin color of ethnicity based laws are hereby repealed.
“It’s time for black men to get jobs, care for their families and STFU about the past. How’s that for a conversation starter?”
It’s time for all people of color to get over it. There was actually a time when I cared. I don’t now and have no guilt over it.
Heck Yeah!
Time for talking is long past.
Time for action, ON THEIR PART! Stay in school, LEARN something, get & stay married, stop impregnating any available female, stop robbing others of their hard earned gains, STOP DOING/SELLING DRUGS!
Just shut up and do it! Earn the respect of others, don’t demand it.
I’ve always said that, as a society, we must not try to be color blind, we must learn to become blind to color.
I’m done talking about race. I judge individuals individually, but I’m done with giving a damn about the concerns of black people (or any other race) as a class. Let them solve their own self-inflicted problems; I have better things to do.
You are right.
Unfortunately, the Black community, which struggled to end segregation 50 years ago, has embraced segregation now. It seems to me that all of these segregated organizations such as the Black Chamber of Commerce, Black Entertainment Television, etc., etc. should just integrate into the mainstream. The Congressional Black Caucus should lead the way.
Yep, let’s talk about black men getting jobs.
In 1948, there was no difference in the unemployment rate for black men and white men. It’s true that black men were disporportionately in certain jobs, and were banned by the culture and discrimination of the time from certain jobs, BUT, the fact is, they were gainfully employed and more likely to be productive citizens than they are now.
In 1948, black illegitimacy was a fraction of what it is today. Black men, though discriminated against in the society, were MARRIED to the mothers of their children, and were active FATHERS in the lives of their children. So clearly those who talk about black illegitimacy as being a legacy of slavery are completely wrong.
I would love to talk about these types of points as conversation starters in a dialogue about race.
Any dialogue or “teachable moment” that comes from this Gates incident will COMPLETELY FAIL if it consists of politically correct lectures about the legacies of past discrimination.
Remember years ago, Bill Clinton had a presidential dialogue about race? He and members of his administration went around the country to “town hall” type meetings. But the results of those “conversations” were politically correct lectures to those in attendance about the sins of the past.
I agree with your point about equality of opportunity.
It’s now 45 years since the passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964. It’s now 55 years since “Brown vs. Board of Education”. Though I admit many school districts took years to implement “Brown”. But the fact is, no black person under the age of 50 ever attended a legally segregated school. The fact is, no black person under about age 60 could legally be denied a job due to race.
A good question for these liberals/race baiters is: What more can government and society do in this area? We have passed laws banning discrimination, and adopted policies such as affirmative action as remedies to past discrimination. And these laws have been vigorously enforced. What more can reastically be done?
Skin color doesn’t matter
It sure matters to THEM.
Enough.
It is time to remove the check boxes from the forms, abandon the 'class protections', and do away with set-asides and quotas.
If an applicant qualifies, or is most qualified, they get the job/scholarship/promotion, no more advancement on the basis of race or "protected class", and definitely not on "victimhood".
You want special treatment, earn it like our veterans have (one group which should get that, imo), don't demand it on the basis of winning some genetic lottery.
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