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To: MrB; TChris

>>The results have been miraculous: I am aware of every problem I have ever had and the root cause behind each one of those problems, and yet somehow have not discovered the means to change a single pattern of behavior.
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>Got Jesus? Probably not.

Indeed, but what are the purposes of psychology and psychiatry? It has been observed that w/o God, laborers work in vain; that when a man gets rid of his demon seven more can come in.... this is the human condition.

You are right that we need a Savior, and thank God that He gave us one in the person of Jesus.


19 posted on 07/28/2009 8:15:47 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark
Psychology and psychiatry are examples of "hollow and deceptive philosophies of this world".

They attempt to tell you that the guilt you feel (for your sin) is not valid and should be rejected. This only compounds the problem and keeps you captive.

Thinking Like a Christian addresses this point.

21 posted on 07/28/2009 8:21:56 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: OneWingedShark
Indeed, but what are the purposes of psychology and psychiatry? It has been observed that w/o God, laborers work in vain; that when a man gets rid of his demon seven more can come in.... this is the human condition.

You are right that we need a Savior, and thank God that He gave us one in the person of Jesus.

I think that psychiatry and psychology are necessary and good tools when used properly, but like many things can be misused and go badly wrong in the hands of godless men.

22 posted on 07/28/2009 8:31:50 AM PDT by TChris (There is no freedom without the possibility of failure.)
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To: OneWingedShark; MrB; TChris

What the girl needs is a personal revelation of Shocking Beauty, which is found only in One Person: Jesus, Who is called “Christ.”

Sadly, there are even many who are called “Christian” who have never received such a revelation. Consequently, much in the world that is categorized as “Christian” is dull, boring, flaccid, insipid, plain, dreary, and uninteresting, if not worse.

Peter Kreeft, in 2007, delivered an EXCELLENT talk with a Q&A session afterward that I think you’ll all enjoy; it will certainly drive you to some serious introspection about your own perception of Shocking Beauty.

http://www.peterkreeft.com/audio/36_shocking-beauty/peter-kreeft_shocking-beauty.mp3


25 posted on 07/28/2009 9:12:34 AM PDT by HKMk23 (In the end, life contains only one tragedy: not to have been a saint.)
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