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Obama Forms 'Shadow Gov't' for Crises
newsmax.com ^ | July 28, 2009 | Dan Weil

Posted on 07/28/2009 1:20:23 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

The White House has taken on a wider role in forming a backup government in case a crisis forces officials to leave Washington.

Government officials familiar with the plans tell The New York Times that the initiative began during the final months of the Bush administration, and the Obama administration decided to leave it in place.

The White House Military Office will now lead the way in installing a “shadow government” should officials have to leave the capital because of a terrorist strike or some other catastrophe. The contingency plans include moving those officials to Mount Weather, Va. and running backup computer systems.

Previously, civilian agencies, led by the Federal Emergency Management Agency, had many of these responsibilities.

But White House officials in the Bush administration were disappointed with civilian management of the response to the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks and Hurricane Katrina in 2005.

The involvement of multiple agencies slowed things down, they found.

The civilian agencies, of course, weren’t too happy to see their power curtailed. They argued that the change gave too much authority to a small group inside the administration, and they expressed concern that Bush was concentrating too much power in the White House, The Times reports.

(Excerpt) Read more at newsmax.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: contingencyplan; dictatorship; nationalemergency; shadowgovernment

1 posted on 07/28/2009 1:20:23 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Will this be shadow government #2 or 3....I can’t keep track....LOL!


2 posted on 07/28/2009 1:24:01 PM PDT by BossLady (Obama = "Narcissus and the Pool of Corruption")
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To: Free ThinkerNY

There already exists a shadow government. Nothing formal at all. Just Democrats who put their allegiance to Party above their allegiance to country or even their employer (especially if it is the State).

Look at all of the operatives who illegally dug up dirt on Joe the Plumber when he inadvertantly made Obambi look back at the final debate. The job went on to discredit Joe with whatever dirt they could find.

Valerie Plame and her husband used their jobs to thwart the Bush administration from within.


3 posted on 07/28/2009 1:24:40 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (There is no truth in the Pravda Media.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
We already have a shadow government. Their puppet is Barack Obama...
4 posted on 07/28/2009 1:25:26 PM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

The term “shadow government” should be a big, red flag.


5 posted on 07/28/2009 1:28:08 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
"...should officials have to leave the capital because of a terrorist strike or some other catastrophe...

Methinks "some other catastrophe" may include a massive civil unrest wherein folks of all walks of life and ethnicities rise up violently and demand the ouster of the Kenyan Usurper, and the military says "Hey, we think we'll sit this one out", leaving O and other pols dangerously exposed to, oh, what's the word I'm looking for....oh yeah: JUSTICE.

My greatest fear is that when civil unrest DOES break out, the military will side against me, and do the bidding of their civilian masters, no matter how corrupt and evil they may be.

6 posted on 07/28/2009 1:28:55 PM PDT by I Buried My Guns
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To: Free ThinkerNY

COOP - COntinuity Of Operations. Now required and if your local civil authority has not made such plans - you might want to look at
moving
putting in better doors & windows
stocking up on grits, booze and (of course) bullets.

If you live out Wset - better get the cabin stocked up.

Ah, you know - Just In Case.


7 posted on 07/28/2009 1:29:02 PM PDT by ASOC (Cave quid dicis, quando, et cui)
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To: April Lexington

8 posted on 07/28/2009 1:29:33 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY ((((Truth to a Liberal, is like a crucifix to a vampire))))
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I’ll be the first to say it. When DC gets nuked it will be an inside job.


9 posted on 07/28/2009 1:30:08 PM PDT by DogBarkTree (Support The American Tea Party)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
>The White House has taken on a wider role in forming a backup government

Now the White House just
is copying Jim Thompson
from a week ago!

If we could get millions of Americans to march on Washington, what would we do?


10 posted on 07/28/2009 1:32:26 PM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: Free ThinkerNY

How about they all just resign and we have another election?


11 posted on 07/28/2009 1:33:46 PM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: April Lexington
We already have a shadow government. Their puppet is Barack Obama...

Is that the same 'shadowy Government' that control Europe too?
12 posted on 07/28/2009 1:34:26 PM PDT by bethybabes69 (Reichstag Flu, coming to a Country near you!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Why and the hell would a Terrorist want to hit the White House now, their solid for the 3 1/2 years.


13 posted on 07/28/2009 1:37:10 PM PDT by Rappini ("Pro deo et Patria.)
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To: bethybabes69
Is that the same 'shadowy Government' that control Europe too?

Europe has never liked the idea of a strong America. We meddled in two big wars and, basically, cost the Germans their strength for a century. We toppled the French from international dominance and the British need us too badly to gripe out loud. In short, a weak and dependent "backwater" America would suit Europe just fine for the next few decades until it becomes overwhelmingly muslim...

14 posted on 07/28/2009 1:38:33 PM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: OneWingedShark
The term “shadow government” should be a big, red flag.

Or a Big, Grey, Evil, Rabid, Bloodthirsty Elephant sat in the corner of the room, but everyone is so far in the closet of denial, they just refuse to look at it, and simply refuse to accept that it's sat right there waiting to announce itself.
15 posted on 07/28/2009 1:39:00 PM PDT by bethybabes69 (Reichstag Flu, coming to a Country near you!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

When the media reported this about Bush they were terrible. This hypocrisy is so out of control.


16 posted on 07/28/2009 1:46:36 PM PDT by Paige ("All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing," Edmund Burke)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Gee, I wonder what sort of crisis he envisions.

Welcome to The Fourth Reich, hope you enjoy your stay.


17 posted on 07/28/2009 1:48:01 PM PDT by chris37
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To: Free ThinkerNY
The White House Military Office will now lead the way in installing a “shadow government” should officials have to leave the capital because of a terrorist strike or some other catastrophe. The contingency plans include moving those officials to Mount Weather, Va. and running backup computer systems.

By that standard, there must already be a lot of government officials at Mount Weather.

With Obama and the democrats at the helm, a recession has been turned into a catastrophe. So, if they haven't already left, I would appreciate it if they left Washington and moved out of the country altogether.

Oftentimes, the best way to manage the country out of a catastrophe is to eliminate those that caused the catastrophe and bring in those who know what the heck they're doing and who have the country's best interests at heart.
18 posted on 07/28/2009 1:49:47 PM PDT by adorno (Where is Branch 4?)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

“The contingency plans include moving those officials to Mount Weather, Va. and running backup computer systems.”

REALLY smart ( not ) of them to reveal the location where they can be found .


19 posted on 07/28/2009 1:49:50 PM PDT by Renegade (You go tell my buddies)
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To: chris37
>Gee, I wonder what sort of crisis he envisions. Welcome to The Fourth Reich, hope you enjoy your stay.

I hope it's the one
where Christ takes all the Christians
up and out of here.

20 posted on 07/28/2009 1:53:03 PM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: Renegade
REALLY smart ( not ) of them to reveal the location where they can be found .

That location could be meant to mislead those that would cause us harm.
21 posted on 07/28/2009 1:55:53 PM PDT by adorno (Where is Branch 4?)
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To: theFIRMbss

I’m ready to go anytime. I have had a good life thus far. I have enjoyed the Freedom that heroes who came before me laid down their lives for. However, before I go, I am going to take the time to stick my thumb in the eye of the devil.


22 posted on 07/28/2009 2:07:31 PM PDT by chris37
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To: chris37

The US gov’t is a massive, paranoid bunch of conspiracy theorists.


23 posted on 07/28/2009 2:14:58 PM PDT by atc23
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To: adorno

US harm or THEM harm ?


24 posted on 07/28/2009 2:24:40 PM PDT by Renegade (You go tell my buddies)
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To: chris37
>I’m ready to go anytime

I hope Christ lets us
look back, see what the world's like
without us in it.

25 posted on 07/28/2009 2:25:41 PM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: Renegade
US harm or THEM harm ?

Lets' see...

By "us" I meant the U.S. and the people within it, including the people in government.

I'm not sure what you mean by "THEM". But, if by "them" you mean the people in government, then it's still the part of "us" that is in government.
26 posted on 07/28/2009 2:40:21 PM PDT by adorno (Where is Branch 4?)
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To: adorno

In the case of civil unrest, it is the people ( citizens ) who will be seeking them ( the government ) . Sort of like the people with torches looking for Frankenstein .


27 posted on 07/28/2009 2:44:29 PM PDT by Renegade (You go tell my buddies)
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To: theFIRMbss

I’m very sad to say that I think it will be a better place. While some people are wonderful, beautiful, and loving beings, lately I have become of the opinion that mankind has utterly failed, and is far more Evil than it is Good. maybe I am too jaded now, I don’t know, but everyday I read what goes on in this world, and many of those days I wish I could just leave.


28 posted on 07/28/2009 2:49:16 PM PDT by chris37
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To: Renegade
In the case of civil unrest, it is the people ( citizens ) who will be seeking them ( the government ) .

Yeah, but that's a different matter altogether.

The topic of this thread was about a terrorist attack on the country or the government.
29 posted on 07/28/2009 3:23:51 PM PDT by adorno (Where is Branch 4?)
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To: theFIRMbss

Mercy, we (and they need mercy), we must never forget 1 Tim Chapter 2, that Christ desires all men to be saved!


30 posted on 07/28/2009 11:48:44 PM PDT by JSDude1
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To: chris37
I don’t know, but everyday I read what goes on in this world, and many of those days I wish I could just leave.

That's a terrible indictment, but unfortunately I underdtand exactly with what you're saying.
31 posted on 07/29/2009 9:22:32 AM PDT by bethybabes69 (Reichstag Flu, coming to a Country near you!)
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To: adorno
The topic of this thread was about a terrorist attack on the country or the government.

You reckon?

The White House Military Office will now lead the way in installing a shadow government should officials have to leave the capital because of a terrorist strike or some other catastrophe. The contingency plans include moving those officials to Mount Weather, Va. and running backup computer systems.

It's becoming quite obvious that the laws that have been passed here in Europe, and also in America are there to protect the 'Lords from the Serfs', and not much else.
32 posted on 07/29/2009 9:33:14 AM PDT by bethybabes69 (Reichstag Flu, coming to a Country near you!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Will this shadow government be in charge of fomenting or “solving” crises?


33 posted on 07/29/2009 9:34:58 AM PDT by MortMan (Stubbing one's toes is a valid (if painful) way of locating furniture in the dark.)
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To: bethybabes69
It's becoming quite obvious that the laws that have been passed here in Europe, and also in America are there to protect the 'Lords from the Serfs', and not much else.

With the kind of "leadership" that we have in both the U.S. and in Europe, your sarcasm is very understandable.

However, whether we like them or not, a country (IOW, the people), would still have a need for the "leadership" to be safe in order to, (gasp!), lead.

A leaderless citizenship would result in the ultimate chaos or anarchy.
34 posted on 07/29/2009 4:39:17 PM PDT by adorno (Where is Branch 4?)
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To: adorno
Yeah, I'll need to got my 'Mad Max' style outfits outta the wardrbobe and get them dry cleaned!
It's hard contemplating a post Government World, but unless they get back to grassroots Public opinion, and stop with this tyranny they've been hellbent on imposing, it's gonna happen sooner or later I think, it's a reality we might just have to deal with.
35 posted on 07/29/2009 5:03:39 PM PDT by bethybabes69 (Reichstag Flu, coming to a Country near you!)
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