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Are Evolutionists Delusional (or just in denial)?
UNCOMMON DESCENT ^ | July 27, 2009 | Cornelius Hunter, Ph.D.

Posted on 07/28/2009 4:33:32 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts

My friend Paul Nelson has the patience of Job. He writes that evolutionists, such as PZ Myers and Jerry Coyne, “need to think about [their theological arguments] more deeply.” In one moment evolutionists make religious arguments and in the next they claim their theory is “just science.” Their religious arguments, they explain, really aren’t religious arguments after all. Gee, that was easy. In light of such absurdity, I don’t have much confidence that evolutionists are going to think more deeply about this. But it would be nice if they would stop misrepresenting science. And it would be nice if they would stop using their credentials to mislead the public. In short, it would be nice if they would stop lying...

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1 posted on 07/28/2009 4:33:32 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

Oh give us this day our creationist spam...


2 posted on 07/28/2009 4:35:11 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: Rationalist101; goodusername; allmendream; grey_whiskers; ElectricStrawberry; UCANSEE2; metmom; ...

Ping!


3 posted on 07/28/2009 4:36:18 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: humblegunner

That would be filet mignon. Sad you can’t tell the difference.


4 posted on 07/28/2009 4:38:36 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: humblegunner

Even the commentators on the posted site call the whole thing a steaming pile.


5 posted on 07/28/2009 4:38:48 PM PDT by FormerRep
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To: humblegunner

How old is the spam?


6 posted on 07/28/2009 4:39:03 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: GodGunsGuts
evolutionists, such as PZ Myers and Jerry Coyne,

Just so we know exactly who we're talking about, how many "evolutionists" are "such as PZ Myers and Jerry Coyne"?

7 posted on 07/28/2009 4:39:29 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: humblegunner
Oh give us this day our creationist spam...

And another example of projection.

8 posted on 07/28/2009 4:40:46 PM PDT by freespirited (Honk if you miss Licorice.)
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To: GodGunsGuts
Militant atheists with scientific credentials are exactly that, nothing more and nothing less.

They are no more indicative of the attitudes of scientists as a whole than militant creationists with credentials.

And the last thing they should do is delve into their “theological thinking” more deeply; they should abandon their pretense that they have any sort of privileged insight into religious belief at all.

Asking an atheist for information or insight about religion is like asking a virgin to give you information or insight about sex.

9 posted on 07/28/2009 4:41:27 PM PDT by allmendream (Income is EARNED not distributed, so how could it be redistributed?)
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To: FormerRep
Even the commentators on the posted site call the whole thing a steaming pile.

Yes. And finding a site the agrees or disagrees with thus-and-such is proof positive.

Isn't it?

10 posted on 07/28/2009 4:42:41 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: humblegunner

As reliable as using wikipedia as a primary source....


11 posted on 07/28/2009 4:44:20 PM PDT by FormerRep
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As reliable as using wikipedia as a primary source....

Wikipedia doesn't claim to be the inspired word of God.

12 posted on 07/28/2009 4:48:00 PM PDT by webheart
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To: tacticalogic; allmendream

Of the elite scientists who excert disproportionate control over tenure, the right to publish, and grant money?

The NAS and the Royal Society were both polled on their belief in God. Only 7 percent of members of the National Academy of Sciences said they believed in God, whereas only 3.3 percent of Royal Society scientists said they believed in God.

Does that help to answer your question?


13 posted on 07/28/2009 4:54:26 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts
Does that help to answer your question?

Not quite. What percentage of the people you regularly and generally refer to as "evos" do those people constitute?

14 posted on 07/28/2009 4:57:17 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: FormerRep; humblegunner

Unlike your Temple of Darwin co-religionists, Uncommon Descent allows their opposition to post there as well.


15 posted on 07/28/2009 4:57:59 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

I like the quotes:

“the argument from imperfection — i.e., organisms show imperfections of “design” that constitute evidence for evolution — is not a theological argument... No form of creationism/intelligent design can explain these imperfections”

So arguing God wouldn’t have done it this way is “not a theological argument”. Hmmm....


16 posted on 07/28/2009 4:58:16 PM PDT by dan1123 (Gov't Healthcare Plan: Break it and Take it.)
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To: GodGunsGuts

There is not much to say about these meaningless as hominem attack.

I’ll just say that evolution is natural history. Those who study natural history just go with what they get. They are not going to give up their work just because people think they are part of an anti-religion conspiracy.


17 posted on 07/28/2009 5:04:22 PM PDT by Soothesayer (The United States of America Rest in Peace November 4 2008)
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To: humblegunner

We all can’t be intransigent enough to believe in microbiological soup as you.


18 posted on 07/28/2009 5:13:05 PM PDT by kingpins10
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To: Soothesayer

What ad hominem about them? Evolutionist are indeed in denial, delusional, or just plain dishonest about the theological underpinnings of their evo-religious creation myth. It about time scientists like Cornelius Hunter started pointing it out!


19 posted on 07/28/2009 5:16:46 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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>> My friend Paul Nelson has the patience of Job.

That’s a pretty common misconception about Job. He started bitching pretty heavily after two chapters (out of 40-ish). Then God told him to butch up and stop his whining (that’s a paraphrase of Job 38). God may have even called him “Nancy” somewhere in there.

SnakeDoc


20 posted on 07/28/2009 5:21:59 PM PDT by SnakeDoctor ("Talk low, talk slow, and don't say too much." -- John Wayne)
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