Skip to comments.Unveiled! Hawaii's 1961 long-form birth certificates
Posted on 07/28/2009 7:34:23 PM PDT by pissant
Images of two 1961 Hawaii birth certificates similar to the one President Obama purportedly has on file have now been unveiled.
The Honolulu Advertiser published photostats of the original long-form birth certificates of twin daughters born to Eleanor Nordyke at Kapi'olani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital Aug. 5, 1961, one day after Obama was supposedly born at the same facility.
The Nordykes' certificates include information missing from the short-form document for Obama published online, including the name of the hospital, the name of the attending physician, name and address of the parents, the race of the parents and the race of the baby.
As WND reported yesterday, Hawaii's director of health responded to the growing controversy over the White House's refusal to release Obama's original long-form birth certificate by issuing a statement about the document in apparent contravention of Hawaiian law.
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They're all certificates of live birth. Read the tops. Only the foreign born certifications are void of facts, because they don't have verifiable facts. Those born the same day have long forms, all with verifiable information included.
Please read the description of a foreign born certificate of birth in post #68, and look at the birth certificate Oboma himself is trying to pass off as his original.
Where does this information come from?
This explains why the certificate number was blacked out on the COLB that was posted on the internet; the number on the form is out of order.
I haven’t felt this tingly since our Dan Rather days!
Check the URL for verification.(http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol06_Ch0321-0344/HRS0338/HRS_0338-0020_0005.htm)
I meant to refer to automated documents only, not hand-prepared documents. By automated I mean documents that likely started out as 80-col cards files or 80-column card-image tape/disk files.
It is common to change field formats as hardware, time, and money permitted or need dictated. Perhaps Hawaii actually did modify the registration number by expanding YY to YYYY during Y2K corrections. They'd have to if applications needed to sort on year -- though utility sorts could recognize 19YY and 20YY in YY format, IBM MVS for example.
So a Hawaiian government computer generated COLB could maybe have the YYYY format in the registration number.
Boy! if only President Obama would deign to do as us little-people American citizens do millions of times almost daily.. release ^%&## long form b.c.
All we are saying
is give release a chance.
Something that I just noticed about Obama’s COLB is that the race of Obama’s father is listed as African. I don’t think the term African would be used for as a racial designation, especially in 1961. The term that would most likely be used would be Negro (sorry, I know that is a derogatory term nowadays but in 1961 that was the polite name for a black person.)
African wouldn’t be used for race because there are white people who are from Africa. Like Teresa Kerry.
But a person, especially a young person who is ignorant of history, who is used to the politically correct term, “African-American” might put down African for race on a forgery of Obama’s COLB.
They widened the number from five to six digits sometime between 1962 and 1970. All the short-form certificates have six-digit numbers. When and if we get to see Zero's long form, its file number will have a two-digit year and a five-digit sequence number, just as do the Nordykes' long forms.
Just one problem:
Quoting from Post #13:
“The new certificate of birth shall show the true or probable foreign country of birth . . .”
Obama’s COLB lists Honolulu as place of birth.
11 - 8 = 3
Help me with the question I asked in Post #110.
FactCheck (yeah, I know...) has this photo that supposedly shows the date and stamped signature on the back of the COLB.
This is incredible. Great work.
I am planning on mailing copies of this to every single member of Congress asking where is Obama’s birth certificate?
It is an established fact that we haven’t seen it.
Obamas COLB lists Honolulu as place of birth.
True OR PROBABLE. A foreign infant may not have verifiable documents to prove it's country of orign. They have to "assume."
That's why these certifications are not legally valid for citizenship identification. They don't know for sure where the infant was born.
We're discussing a hospital clerk here, not an anthropologist.
I suspect they asked BHO, Sr., what he was, and he proudly and imperiously answered "African", wanting to be a cut above those Negro slaves his ancestors rounded up and sold to the Dutch slave traders.
We should all send these to O Really and ask him if the BC he looked at looked like the forged one at the top or it looked like the authentic ones produced by the Nordyke twins.
Yeah, kinda like below ... in this correction for a Hawaiian born in 1978.
Keep in mind that the "Certification of Live Birth" will not reflect important details such as "given name added". Incidentally, the block under 6A BELOW is reflected on Block 23 on the original Hawaiian "Certificate of Live Birth".