Posted on 07/28/2009 7:34:23 PM PDT by pissant
Images of two 1961 Hawaii birth certificates similar to the one President Obama purportedly has on file have now been unveiled.
The Honolulu Advertiser published photostats of the original long-form birth certificates of twin daughters born to Eleanor Nordyke at Kapi'olani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital Aug. 5, 1961, one day after Obama was supposedly born at the same facility.
The Nordykes' certificates include information missing from the short-form document for Obama published online, including the name of the hospital, the name of the attending physician, name and address of the parents, the race of the parents and the race of the baby.
As WND reported yesterday, Hawaii's director of health responded to the growing controversy over the White House's refusal to release Obama's original long-form birth certificate by issuing a statement about the document in apparent contravention of Hawaiian law.
(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...
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Yes, alpha by day.
Huh???
The lame stream media keeps calling it a conspiracy theory. They even get that wrong. The “birthers” they malign aren’t claiming conspiracy. It’s about deception and authentication. Obama refusing to release his BC involves only one person — Zero himself. Those running flak for him are not conspiring, simply living up to the sycophant status.
God I hate the lying, liberal, anti-American press.
BUMP
No that isn’t the one. this guy talked about how the date is situated on different places on the birth certificate... I think it depended on how you got (ordered) the birth certificate but I don’t remember the various placement of the stamps. that post is important and I don’t know why I didn’t save it. Stupid.
Oh yeah, that’s it. I will save it this time.
thanks
The padding of 61 to 1961 could easily have occurred due to Y2K issues. The document O released was printed off the computer record. Not so clear is why the twins' cert. is numbered 37 vs. 41 for O (when O was born a day earlier), but these things are probably printed in stacks, and I'd doubt that there was much concern about numbering people sequentially, just giving each a unique number.
Frankly, all my birth certificate questions are now answered except one:
Why has the government and the Obama campaign spent millions of dollars defending against lawsuits asking for the release of the long-form certificate?
You guys rock.
That's not a big deal. Let's say you have a stack of blank documents at the hospital, numbered 1-50. You hand 1-20 to Dr. A, 21-40 to Dr. B, and 41-50 to Dr. C. Dr. C happens to attend the first birth of the day, so that child gets Document 41. Dr. A attends the second birth of the day, so that child gets Document 1.
The numbers being slightly out of order really isn't a big deal at all.
His serial number is later, BECAUSE HIS NOTIFICATION OF BIRTH WAS INTRODUCED LATER.
Do we have proof from this hospital that his birth took place there?
God, this is maddening. NO OTHER PRESIDENT EVER has sealed his biographical data.
I THINK I SPEAK FOR ALL AMERICANS WHEN I SAY, I COULDN’T CARE LESS, WHO IS FATHER IS, ETC. IF HE WAS BORN HERE AND A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN BY LAW THAT’S WHAT IS IMPORTANT.
I would think more of the man if he just comes clean on his past. Whether adopted or not, or whether he lived in Indonesia, travled to Pakistan. Who cares. If true these are the facts of the man, and we’ll accept them.
JUST SHOW US YOUR GD BC AND YOUR SCHOOL RECORDS ETC AND LET’S PUT ALL THIS STUFF BEHIND US!!!!!
WHAT ARE YOU HIDING??????????????
I was concerned about the year in the registration number in particular. That is, the registration number format was 999-YY-99999; e.g., 151-61-10537.
So when someone says that Obama's registration number is 151-1961-10641 I suggested that it made me suspicious. They obviously did not know much about the DP world of 80-column punch cards and 80-byte card-image files from which came Obama's b.c. We did not have the space for the "19".
However DP is far beyond memory worries today and the standard today is CCYY.
Y2k projects often enforced that standard. The legacy files were not likely changed but programmers inserted logic to expand the date internally to match the new registration number format of 99-CCYY-99999 (if Hawaii did in fact change the format).
So perhaps I have no reason to be suspicious. Thus I remain suffering from truth delay. When will we ever know?
I was talking about the long form.
Whatcha gonna do if he reveals the long form - and it proves full NBC citizenship?
If you ever feel that frustrating gut feeling that you are being manipulated, you probably are...
Let’s LIGHT UP THE CAPITOL COM CENTER!!!
Just sent this message — or a variant of it — to Boortz, O’Reilly and my congresscritters:
New evidence, honesty and the CONSTITUTION to which you SWORE AN OATH TO GOD TO PROTECT AND DEFEND and which you profess to respect requires that you revisit the matter of Obama’s eligibility to the office.
The longer this goes on, the deeper will be the crisis we’ll face.
The truth, crushed to earth, will rise!
The info is here:
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=105347
You said that NO OTHER PRESIDENT EVER has sealed his biographical data.
I don’t know about those in the far past, but just in our lifetimes we’ve had Presidents who were born under other names and in difficult circumstances. Gerald Ford was Leslie King at birth, the son of a violent man who did not raise him. Slick Willy was William Jefferson Blythe, later adopted by an abusive stepfather.
Both Ford and Clinton treated their early years matter-of-factly, didn’t glorify their hard times nor try to hide them. Americans will accept most anything if it’s lawful, but WE DON’T LIKE BEING PLAYED.
I don’t feel that way. I don’t get manipulated by commies.
Exactly. I would think more of someone who pervails in the face of long odds.
Obama clearly was manhandled into going and living here and there during his young life.
He was a loner like many AMerican youth.
He prevailed. His presidency could be a beacon to others.
Instead, his presidency is cloaked in deception about his past.
This article posted recently here cuts through the chase.
It explains what is it that Obama is hiding and also explains how he could not have been born in a Hawaii hospital but still have a birth certificate on record.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2303258/posts
If Obama’s certificate is supposed to be an accurate reflection of what is on his long-form birth certificate, why would it be necessary to make a change to his certificate number.
The original document, if there is indeed one, would have been numbered using the established system in place in 1961; meaning it should read 61 if it’s an correct and un-doctored duplicate of his vault certificate.
I worked for years for my local government and we often had to go back to case files that were made well before Y2k.
We did NOT change the numbers to reflect the new dating system for our older files as doing so would have changed the original of the document, making it impossible for us to state that copies of the files were correct and unchanged when they were printed out.
My question to Hawaii is simple. Did you change the certificate number for Obama’s COLB and if so, how can you claim it is an accurate and exact representation of his vault birth certificate?
If you did not change the number, why does the certificate presented by Mr. Obama have a dating system that was not in place in 1961 and why are you validating the document as a correct and unchanged copy of his vault certificate?
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