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Unveiled! Hawaii's 1961 long-form birth certificates
WND ^ | 7/28/09 | Jerome Corsi

Posted on 07/28/2009 7:34:23 PM PDT by pissant

Images of two 1961 Hawaii birth certificates similar to the one President Obama purportedly has on file have now been unveiled.

The Honolulu Advertiser published photostats of the original long-form birth certificates of twin daughters born to Eleanor Nordyke at Kapi'olani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital Aug. 5, 1961, one day after Obama was supposedly born at the same facility.

The Nordykes' certificates include information missing from the short-form document for Obama published online, including the name of the hospital, the name of the attending physician, name and address of the parents, the race of the parents and the race of the baby.

As WND reported yesterday, Hawaii's director of health responded to the growing controversy over the White House's refusal to release Obama's original long-form birth certificate by issuing a statement about the document in apparent contravention of Hawaiian law.

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: article2section1; barackobama; bho44; birthcertificate; birtherloons; birthers; certifigate; colb; freepersareloons; freepersarenutcases; hotair; iloveobama; imom; larrysinclairslover; naturalborn; obama; obamanoncitizenissue; obroma; youlooneyidiots; youlostgetoveritass
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To: RummyChick

There are so many smoking guns!


301 posted on 07/29/2009 7:41:36 PM PDT by bvw
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To: bvw
All I can say after watching this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mK_zh-X21f0

is that someone better find something that is hard,definable , believable, and easily proven outside of a court of law..and fast.

Is Danae still in Hawaii? Maybe she can go look at the microfiche and see if she can find the announcement of the twins before someone doctors it up if it hasn't happened already.

302 posted on 07/29/2009 7:57:00 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: justiceseeker93

Thanks for the ping!


303 posted on 07/29/2009 8:29:43 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: cynwoody

So if someone is from bayou country and when asked they answer “French” the clerk would just write that down?


304 posted on 07/29/2009 8:57:45 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Aham Brahmasmi - I am eternal soul)
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To: thecodont; LucyT; Beckwith; hoosiermama; pissant
Why does the one on the left (DeCosta’s) say “Date Accepted by STATE Registrar” and the one on the right (BO) say “Date Filed by Registrar”?

Simply put, because:

DeCosta’s original Certificate was "Accepted by STATE Registrar"
... while ...
Obama’s original Certificate was "Filed by (Local) Registrar"

Think hard on that one ... one was Accepted, while one was not (yet it was Filed).

Words mean things.

I know the Obots will have a reasonable explanation for that, just like the out of sequence birth certificate numbers between Obama and the Nordyke twins ...

305 posted on 07/29/2009 8:59:26 PM PDT by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: DirtyHarryY2K

(Waves!)

Just in case your question wasn’t answered yet (I’m late to the thread as always), no one has seen the birth annoucement for the Nordyke twins.

Odd, that.


306 posted on 07/29/2009 9:02:51 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Aham Brahmasmi - I am eternal soul)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear; All; Spunky; ~Kim4VRWC's~; 1035rep; 2ndDivisionVet; 4woodenboats; 5Madman2; ...

So do I. O’Reilly has become the biggest spinner on TV when he LIED and said he had received and reviewed teh Obama birth certificate and it clearly sows Obama was born in Hawaii and said Obama is clearly an US citizen.

He is also parsing when he insists that Obama is an US citizen and failing to differentiate between this and NATURAL BORN citizen, which Obama is not and thus ineligible.

if O’Reilly has received a copy of the Certificate why does he not put up a copy on his on his program an dlet us all see it.

Tonight, he stated, “we have investigated this and Obama was born in Hawaii.” Based on what evidence.

We should FReep O’Reilly and send him Emails on this bloviating of falshoods and shattering the “no spin zone” - his now false claim to fame. We shold ask him to prove his statement by showing us the copy of what he saw.

It is amazing how far to the left and running interference for Obama, O’Reilly has swerved in the last few months.

Phil Dragoo posted a great graphic yesterday of O’Reilly, whose show I will not watch again as he has become irritating with his false declarations and spin.

I know Alan of AntiMulah plans to use it in an Email confronting O’Reilly. Perhaps we all should.


307 posted on 07/29/2009 9:05:33 PM PDT by FARS ( Be happy, Be well)
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To: FARS

Thanks for the ping!


308 posted on 07/29/2009 9:09:41 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: BP2

This suggests to me that the birth certificate was filed late by the grandmother.


309 posted on 07/29/2009 9:13:24 PM PDT by FTJM
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To: FARS
I stopped listening to BOR's radio show when he maligned the Swift Boat veterans. I've never seen his TV show. No TV.

IMO, he wanted Kerry (a friend of his, I believe) on the show. Likewise, he's covering for the Obama Admnistration -- he needs them as guests.

310 posted on 07/29/2009 9:16:07 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: FARS

thanks.

Thsi is developing finally.


311 posted on 07/29/2009 9:21:32 PM PDT by dervish (I never saw a wild thing sorry for itself)
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To: FARS

I lost all respect for O’Reily several years ago when I saw a YouTube video of him when he was with PrimeTime Addition. In the video he was off the on air camera and he got ticked off at something the studio hands had done. He started screaming and banging his fist and using the F word at them over and over.


312 posted on 07/29/2009 9:34:16 PM PDT by Spunky (You are free to make choices, but not free from the consequences.)
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To: FTJM
This suggests to me that the birth certificate was filed late by the grandmother.

Yes, or something like this to change the original (possibly many times):
Evidence for Late Filing or Alteration

313 posted on 07/29/2009 9:34:28 PM PDT by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: musicman

I beleive Polarik checked and determined there was NO Certification ordered for/by Obama on that date (June 6, 2007).
314 posted on 07/29/2009 9:37:35 PM PDT by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: BP2

Thanks!!


315 posted on 07/29/2009 9:55:27 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see a REAL C.O.L.B. BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: BP2

Someone needs to research and find the birth announcements for the twins with the lower registration numbers. Could be interesting....


316 posted on 07/29/2009 9:58:27 PM PDT by FTJM
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To: WVNan
“Maybe the COLB produced has something to do with barry’s adoption.”

Whatever the reason for his concealment of ALL of his records...we can be assured that something is terribly wrong.

Whether it's childish hubris on display, or damning proof of a Constitutional disqualification, his lack of transparency alone disqualifies him from being POTUS and proves him to be a danger to the United States. IMO

317 posted on 07/29/2009 10:47:27 PM PDT by Semper Mark (Third World trickle up poverty, will lead to cascading Third World tyranny.)
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To: FARS

O’Reilly has been in stealth mode as an apologist for the Kenyan. He has been =, in his own way, an apologist for 0bama..


318 posted on 07/29/2009 11:54:27 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: little jeremiah
Long time no see!

They said some folks were working on finding out if the twins birth announcements were in the paper, I never found out. The Obamas or the Dunhams never even lived at the address posted in his announcement.. Go figure!

319 posted on 07/30/2009 3:11:44 AM PDT by DirtyHarryY2K (The Tree of Liberty is long overdue for its natural manure)
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To: Brytani
We did NOT change the numbers to reflect the new dating system for our older files as doing so would have changed the original of the document, making it impossible for us to state that copies of the files were correct and unchanged when they were printed out.

Apparently the Hawaii Health Department had no such compunction. The way to prove this definitively would be for someone else with a 2-digit number on their long form to request a short form copy. Worth checking out, for thoroughness, but I'm much >99% certain there's nothing there. Because the numbering question a) should be easy enough to figure out, and more especially b) is a matter of state policy, I don't think anyone in the Obama camp owes we the people an answer.

They do owe us an answer regarding how much public and campaign money they've spent to protect the confidentiality of his long-form cert, and why.

320 posted on 07/30/2009 4:07:50 AM PDT by cmj328 (Filibuster FOCA--a/k/a this "Health" Bill--or lose reelection)
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To: Brytani

See post #271 for another short form with 4-digit year.


321 posted on 07/30/2009 4:11:54 AM PDT by cmj328 (Filibuster FOCA--a/k/a this "Health" Bill--or lose reelection)
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To: STARWISE
But Nordyke was a population research fellow at the East-West Center

Since at least the time of Malthus, that occupation has been in disrepute.

322 posted on 07/30/2009 4:15:38 AM PDT by cmj328 (Filibuster FOCA--a/k/a this "Health" Bill--or lose reelection)
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To: ckilmer

It’s interesting, but how much effort do you think that State and Hospital authorities ought to or actually do put in to ensuring that babies are numbered sequentially? Is there any compelling interest in doing so? The cert. numbers, IMO, are only useful as unique identifiers.

Doesn’t seem like a smoking gun, but if this were a court proceeding in an important trial, there might well be a question on this topic asked of a witness.


323 posted on 07/30/2009 4:20:32 AM PDT by cmj328 (Filibuster FOCA--a/k/a this "Health" Bill--or lose reelection)
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To: Terabitten

I’ve only read the thread to your post, so someone may have already replied later in the thread with the answer I’m about to give.

Typically, libraries microfiche newspapers for archival purposes.

Someone in Hawaii could research your hunch easily enough.

START...PAGING HAWAIIAN FREEPERS...REPORT TO YOUR DUTY STATION AT ONCE...STOP


324 posted on 07/30/2009 5:07:06 AM PDT by freepersup (!)
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To: FARS

Why has HE seen the BC and none of us?


325 posted on 07/30/2009 5:42:45 AM PDT by nikos1121 (I'm a birther!)
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To: justiceseeker93
Because she was expecting twins, Mrs. Nordyke may have been admitted to the hospital before Ann Dunham/Obama, if so, paperwork would have been generated, possibly leading to the certificate numbers of her babies being lower than Obama’s, even though her daughters were born after Obama.
326 posted on 07/30/2009 5:45:19 AM PDT by freepersup (!)
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To: Principled
That bears repeating:

"A close examination of the birth certificates issued by Kapi'olani to the Nordyke twins shows the registration number precedes the number given Obama, even though the future president was born a day earlier."

oopsie...

327 posted on 07/30/2009 8:38:58 AM PDT by Mr. K (THIS ADMINISTRATION IS WEARING OUT MY CAPSLOCK KEY DAMMIT DAMMIT DAMMIT!!!!!)
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To: FARS

O’Reilly will be as impervious to facts about Obama’s birth certificate as he was to facts about John Kerry’s service in Vietnam.

He has it in his mind that the birth certificate issue is a fantasy of the far right and that to even entertain the thought that Obama is not playing straight on this issue would compromise his cherished “Fair & Balanced” persona.

I was skeptical about the whole issue myself until I saw the supposed certificate that Obama put on his website as proof. Without even comparing it to an original I could tell it was a photoshop production (I work with that program every day). After comparing it to hi-res scans posted on the net of real certificates of live birth, there is no objective way not to be suspicious.

O’reilly either has no one on his staff familiar with photoshop, and/or has not compared what he has seen with the other legit certificates. If he has something better than what has been shown to the rest of us, he should post a hi-res version on his website.

I won’t hold my breath though.


328 posted on 07/30/2009 10:33:58 AM PDT by PsyOp (Put government in charge of tire pressure, and we'll soon have a shortage of air. - PsyOp.)
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To: cmj328

its not a smoking gun. rather it is one of a long string of problems with the evidence presented. for example remember the newspaper clipping that purported to show o was born in 1961. -— Not one of the elements of that newspaper clipping was true. O’s parents weren’t married. They didn’t live at the address named. O wasn’t born at the hospital mentioned.


329 posted on 07/30/2009 10:37:23 AM PDT by ckilmer (Phi)
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To: roaddog727

No problem .. their heads are spinning .. ;)


330 posted on 07/30/2009 12:26:27 PM PDT by STARWISE (The Art & Science Institute of Chicago Politics NE Div: now open at the White House)
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To: spacejunkie01

Let’s not forget that anyone can post a birth announcement and grandparents will often do so in the parents hometown. The announcement is a red herring and worthless for corroboration.


331 posted on 07/30/2009 3:33:56 PM PDT by Eagles6 ( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck. (Let them eat arugula!))
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To: FARS

In the months before the election, it was obvious that O’Reilly was pro-0bama. I don’t know if he was bribed, or if he just lost his mind, but it was obvious something was up. O’Reilly refused to believe that 0bama should be tainted by attending Jeremiah Wright’s crazy ranting “church” for 20 years, he constantly poo-poohed 0bama’s relationship with terrorist Bill Ayers, he constantly went on about how smart and articulate 0bama is. The list goes on and on.


332 posted on 07/31/2009 6:33:20 AM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Liberalism is a social disease.)
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