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Unveiled! Hawaii's 1961 long-form birth certificates
WND ^ | 7/28/09 | Jerome Corsi

Posted on 07/28/2009 7:34:23 PM PDT by pissant

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To: rolling_stone

I believe it is more likely than not Obama was born in Hawaii,
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I believe is more likely he was not. Why would Ann, after just giving birth to her first born, take off a couple of weeks later to Seattle and enroll in school there? Alone. Sr. didn’t want to see his new baby? It makes no sense.


202 posted on 07/28/2009 11:58:36 PM PDT by mojitojoe (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people the people to remain silent.)
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To: hoosiermama

What is your request? I live in the Bay Area but Sacto is no barrier.


203 posted on 07/29/2009 12:12:40 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: mojitojoe
Then why is Obama’s in the paper but the Nordyke twins is NOT. I’ll tell you why. They erased the Nordyke’s and inserted Obama’s when the SHTF on this during the campaign.

I don't recall anything hitting the fan during the campaign other than Crash McCain.

That said, forging newspapers is an inexact science, even 48 years after the fact. How many copies of those two newspaper columns are still in existence?

I wonder if anyone has asked the Nordykes?

204 posted on 07/29/2009 12:15:11 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: Charles Martel

Bump


205 posted on 07/29/2009 12:23:26 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: cynwoody

You think the BC issue didn’t come up until after the election? WRONG!


206 posted on 07/29/2009 12:31:39 AM PDT by mojitojoe (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people the people to remain silent.)
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To: Terabitten

The Nordyke twins are the key to this, IMHO. Where is their birth announcement in either Hawaiian paper?

If a copy of the paper turns up with the Nordyke announcement where the Obama announcement is, this will blow wide open.
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What is going to be really fun is if they try to fake it NOW and end up caught by a sting. People thought of that and have the announcements for 3 months prior and after. *wink*


207 posted on 07/29/2009 12:35:54 AM PDT by mojitojoe (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people the people to remain silent.)
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To: mojitojoe
You think the BC issue didn’t come up until after the election? WRONG!

It made zero difference in the election. The only people who noticed were FR and some of the HRC supporters. Even if it had managed to get some traction, McCain would have done his best to bury it.

208 posted on 07/29/2009 12:37:28 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: cynwoody

It made a big enough difference that he felt compelled to have Kos and factcheck post that fake crap on the internet.


209 posted on 07/29/2009 12:38:40 AM PDT by mojitojoe (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people the people to remain silent.)
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To: mojitojoe

....I believe is more likely he was not. Why would Ann, after just giving birth to her first born, take off a couple of weeks later to Seattle and enroll in school there? Alone. Sr. didn’t want to see his new baby? It makes no sense......

Ann’s life from 17 on doesn’t make a whole lot of sense either...to me anyway.

I think she went back to Seattle to escape the jerk she married until he was gone...as she had friends close by and was probably accepted their previously thus easier to get in, in state tuition etc Autumn semester starts late september in UW...did she keep Jr with her or was mom taking care of him ?

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210 posted on 07/29/2009 12:40:26 AM PDT by rolling_stone (no more bailouts, the taxpayers are out of money!)
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To: mojitojoe
If a copy of the paper turns up with the Nordyke announcement where the Obama announcement is, this will blow wide open.

That should be really simple. The sequence of names in both columns is the same, although the surrounding advertising is different. So, if some extant copies have the Nordykes where Bambi is, then we'd have solid evidence of skulduggery! Suddenly, solid proof would turn into solid doubt.

211 posted on 07/29/2009 12:40:57 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: rolling_stone
I think she went back to Seattle to escape the jerk she married until he was gone...as she had friends close by and was probably accepted their previously thus easier to get in, in state tuition etc Autumn semester starts late september in UW...did she keep Jr with her or was mom taking care of him ?

The facts suggest something happened between the two of them around the time Bambi was born. Perhaps, before the blowup (or whatever happened), they had arranged to rent the cottage behind 6085 Kalanianaole Highway, and that's why it's listed in the birth announcment, but they never actually lived there, which explains why no one remembers them there. Unfortunately the owners of the house, Orland and Thelma Lefforge, are no longer with us. It's certainly strange that she would head back to Washington while her parents were in Hawaii, while he, thousands of miles from home, would finish his education in Hawaii.

212 posted on 07/29/2009 12:53:20 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: mojitojoe

That’s racist.


213 posted on 07/29/2009 1:52:19 AM PDT by Jedidah ("Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." George Santayana)
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To: mojitojoe

Yep.

So is anyone looking at Aug. ‘61 records in British Columbia? I’m itching to, but too far away to go dig.


214 posted on 07/29/2009 1:54:02 AM PDT by Jedidah ("Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." George Santayana)
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To: rfp1234

“Methinks someone faked BHO’s document, and forgot to check for sequential integrity.”

We need to know the procedure the hospitals and registrar used back then. It might be that they only forwarded paperwork every few days from the hospital to generate the birth certificates. There’s a date of Aug 11, 1961 stamped at the bottom of both Nordyke’s as “Date Assigned by...”

Remember, 1961 was a lot slower than things are today, no computers or data systems to speak of, and paperwork was done by hand and moved at messenger speed at best.


215 posted on 07/29/2009 2:21:06 AM PDT by PLMerite (Speak Truth to Evil.)
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To: rfp1234
As I posted the other day, the reason Zero's minions don't just post another fake is that it is SO HARD to do a really good fake. They could just use the name of a nurse that worked there ferinstance, but then she shows up and points out that she had her appendix out that day and wasn't at work. Just too many elements that have to come together and all be perfect. Way too hard. Much easier to send Gibbs out front to declare "it's all over".

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216 posted on 07/29/2009 3:03:46 AM PDT by wastoute (translation of tag "Come and get them (bastards)" and the Scout Motto)
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217 posted on 07/29/2009 4:02:04 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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To: PLMerite
We need to know the procedure the hospitals and registrar used back then. It might be that they only forwarded paperwork every few days from the hospital to generate the birth certificates.

The part I'd like to know is where the certificate numbers were/are added. It appears to be a Bates-stamped number affixed by the registrar. Most vital records offices I've seen have two or more deputy clerks sharing a single stamp while working on separate stacks of documents, so it is possible that the date / sequential number disagreement is simply the result of one worker being a bit faster than the other.

I've seen enough public records offices that used to divide up the work in that manner (particularly pre-computer) that I view the out-of-sequence numbers as literally "close enough for government work". It's not a smoking gun, by any means.

218 posted on 07/29/2009 4:23:49 AM PDT by Charles Martel ("Endeavor to persevere...")
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To: pissant

That is an interesting idea.

Find many people who were born the day before, the day of, and the day after 0bama at the same hospital.


219 posted on 07/29/2009 4:30:12 AM PDT by CriticalJ
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To: BP2

The hospital or Government could have assigned numbers for each day alphabetical. In fact, most things in 61 were sorted aplha before identifying for computer punch cards.


220 posted on 07/29/2009 4:43:52 AM PDT by Raycpa
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