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Unveiled! Hawaii's 1961 long-form birth certificates
WND ^ | 7/28/09 | Jerome Corsi

Posted on 07/28/2009 7:34:23 PM PDT by pissant

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To: Jedidah

Nixon and Truman. I love reading their stories.

Where are the bios on Obama? If they do not critically and accurately address the birth place they start out of the gate as false.

The man is very liberal. Over 75% of the American public say that he is.

241 posted on 07/29/2009 8:07:55 AM PDT by nikos1121 (I'm a birther and proud of it!)
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To: nikos1121; LucyT; Polarik; pissant

God, this is maddening. NO OTHER PRESIDENT EVER has sealed his biographical data.

As Cort Wrotnowski indicated in his Supplemental Brief to the SCOTUS back in December,
President Chester Arthur was not a “natural born citizen”, and hid those facts until his death.

From that Supplemental Brief:

The definitive biography of Chester Arthur's life is “Gentleman Boss” by Thomas Reeves.
Since Chester Arthur burned his papers around the time of his death, this biography fills
many gaps with interviews of family members and authentic documents such as the Arthur family Bible.

From “Gentleman Boss”, page 202 and 203:
“…Hinman was hired, apparently by democrats, to explore
rumors that Arthur had been born in a foreign country, was not a
natural-born citizen of the United States, and was thus, by the
Constitution, ineligible for the vice-presidency. By mid-August,
Hinman was claiming that Arthur was born in Ireland and had
been brought to the United States by his father when he was fourteen.
Arthur denied the charge and said that his mother was
a New Englander who had never left her native country — a
statement every member of the Arthur family knew was untrue.”

Amazing how history repeats. Remember that emergency trip that Obama made in the last week of October last year,
immediately before his last living grandparent passed away in Hawaii? I'm sure before Obama’s grandmother (”Toots”)
died the day before the election, Obama had PERSONALLY rummaged through every drawer, closet and
shoebox to ensure he had EVERY scrap of paper that could tip off anyone in the future about his ancestry.

242 posted on 07/29/2009 8:10:37 AM PDT by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: Jedidah

Americans have come a long way since the sins of the father were placed on the child.

If Obama was a bastard. If his father is not listed or his parents were not married; Americans would not hold that against him. It’s not like the baby/child Obama had control or any say in his conception. American’s by our values and way of life place honesty and integrity as traits to be respected.

Obama has proven himself to be a liar. He has done what no other candidate or President before has, completely censored his entire life and refused, via laws and the courts, any attempts to property vet his character, abilities and achievements. This is unacceptable to the majority of Americans who have an ounce of ethical standards left.

Of course people are questioning Obama, he’s proven himself unethical and lacking in integrity.

243 posted on 07/29/2009 8:17:46 AM PDT by Brytani (DC Freeper Convention and National Tea Party - FreepMail Me for rooms and convention info!)
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To: BP2

I’ve followed this story from the start. I along with a few others, (e.g. Pissant), here about a year ago noted the discrepancies regarding the listing of two hospitals as his place of birth. I’m not saying this for acknowledgement, I say this because it seemed obvious to me, that something was not right.

Wikepedia interestingly made changes soon after these questions were raised. Then his COLB was released online and later found questionable.

There’s no question that the Hawaii trip had a purpose. I agree with you.

You also had the governor of the state come out and say that the long form of the BC would not be released.

Now there is clearly a push to discredit those of us, now in large numbers who want answers.

I’m a doctor. I’m not some wingnut. I just want to know who my president is.


I’m of the opinion now, that the only way this will come out, is if Obama’s negative ratings continue to sour.

Once they reach the -15, you’ll see MSM not afraid to take their shots at him and ask him the tough follow up questions.

Thomas Sowell’s article today in NRO says it all. Everyone should read it. Has it been posted yet?




244 posted on 07/29/2009 8:22:42 AM PDT by nikos1121 (I'm a birther and proud of it!)
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To: Brytani

I think you are right. The padding of “61” to “1961” is suspicious; and it may not be a real certification number.

245 posted on 07/29/2009 8:25:07 AM PDT by Cyropaedia ("Virtue cannot separate itself from reality without becoming a principal of evil...".)
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To: BP2

I mean’t to say that it will NOT be a “Right Wing Fringe” thing.

246 posted on 07/29/2009 8:27:11 AM PDT by nikos1121 (I'm a birther and proud of it!)
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To: Markos33
“Only the foreign born certifications are void of facts, because they don't have verifiable facts.”

Which brings me to something that went trough my mind this morning. Maybe the COLB produced has something to do with barry's adoption.

247 posted on 07/29/2009 8:29:56 AM PDT by WVNan ( (Attack him where he is unprepared, appear where you are not expected.: Sun Tzu))
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To: nikos1121

That Swiftboat ad in which the camera panned across a field of Kerry’s former military colleagues who would not support him was one of the most powerful I have every seen. Especially when it featured Bud Day with the Medal of Honor around his neck.

It was, in my opinion, enough to cost him the election.

Yours is an excellent idea, but it needs to feature people with a broad geographic and ethnic spread, and it needs to identify them by walk in life, i.e. “doctor,” “homemaker,” “teacher,” “roofer,” “lawyer,” “student,” etc.

It will take money. Anybody here with the talent and skills to do it?

248 posted on 07/29/2009 8:30:01 AM PDT by Jedidah ("Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." George Santayana)
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To: mojitojoe
They erased the Nordyke’s and inserted Obama’s when the SHTF on this during the campaign.

That might hold up if the address (where O's folks didn't live) is where the twins' folks lived. Another project.

249 posted on 07/29/2009 8:39:02 AM PDT by WVNan ( (Attack him where he is unprepared, appear where you are not expected.: Sun Tzu))
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To: Jedidah
Do you recall how the Swiftboats were discredited? But Kerry knew he couldn't release his military records as they would show his dishonorable discharge or whatever he was hiding.

I don't have the skills to put an ad together. I think the money is there. But I've seen some pretty clever and simple things on U-Tube.

I agree, it should be people from all walks of life and color.

Once you see his scores consistently hitting double digits, (e.g. it's at 10 today and was 11 over the weekend), this thing will take hold, because people will realize that they elected someone who should never have been put in office, and they're going to want a reason for being duped.

Well we were duped the same way alt of people have been over the course of time with Obama.

I was in Dixon, IL a few years back to work for a week or so.

Reagan is everywhere.

I stayed at a hotel that had a swimming pool and a huge mural showing Reagan as life guard, and in another room large pictures of him.

There's the house he lived in etc etc.

I don't really wish to know the dirt about the president unless it truly reflects the man's character.

I guess Watergate defined the way presidents up till that time acted. No one questioned LBJ having the FBI taking home movies of MLK etc and other sibilance's. But Nixon got busted and was too stupid in his handling of it.

Clinton's presidency will always be characterized by his affair that underscored the man's sexual addiction.

Obama is a narcissist in the worst way. This health care bill is all about him, and nothing about what is good for the country.

The man is now talking about passing ANY health care bill. And if it can be termed bipartisan then all the better.


250 posted on 07/29/2009 8:48:45 AM PDT by nikos1121 (I'm a birther!)
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To: WVNan
"That might hold up if the address (where O's folks didn't live) is where the twins' folks lived."

That makes no sense. If Obama had used the twins address it could right away be proven that was not where his parents lived. What Obama did was use an address where recently the last of the owners from 1961 had passed away and then they could not claim Obama's didn't live there.

What Obama's people did is supposedly remove the twins announcement to make room to insert Obama's announcement.

251 posted on 07/29/2009 8:58:17 AM PDT by Spunky (You are free to make choices, but not free from the consequences.)
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To: rolling_stone

Was Ann Dunham going to College AFTER Barack was born??? What did she do with Bammy while she was in school?? Has anyone interviewed her FRIENDS??

252 posted on 07/29/2009 9:13:04 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: concerned about politics

Do you know of any example of the long form of the Hawaii BC that shows the race of a parent who was black listed as “African”? Why would Barack’s COLB show African if the BC shows “black” or “colored” or “Negro” (that’s my guess as to what Hawaii would put down in 1961)?

253 posted on 07/29/2009 9:14:00 AM PDT by raybbr (It's going to get a lot worse now that the anchor babies are voting!)
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To: Jedidah

Too bad. :)

254 posted on 07/29/2009 9:21:51 AM PDT by mojitojoe (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people the people to remain silent.)
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To: tc45a

“HUH?” Yeah, n00b, that’s what I said when I saw two or three n00bs spewing the same misdirection in practically the same words, trying to dissmble the discrepancy in the numbering of the babies born August 4 and 5.

255 posted on 07/29/2009 9:25:13 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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No, we are speaking from common sense and reason, not knee jerk conspiracy.

256 posted on 07/29/2009 9:41:01 AM PDT by tc45a
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To: tc45a

Ah yes, lets get a little deeper into your talking points direction, n00b. What number are we on with the ‘just a bunch of conspiracy nuts’ assertion?

257 posted on 07/29/2009 9:42:33 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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The certificate number is not likely to be a sequence of birth number. It is most likely a sequence of health department form processing. If the number was based on a birth sequence then the health department would have to hold up issuing other birth certificates while waiting for forms that they wouldn’t even know existed. That does not make any sense at all. The order that the forms were received at the health department would be the order of sequencing for the certificate numbers.

258 posted on 07/29/2009 9:49:19 AM PDT by binary (There are 10 kinds of people in the world - those who understand binary and those who do not)
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Other posters gave a reasonable reason why the numbers and dates don’t match but no..they are trolls because they are not walking in lock step agreement with you on this BC stuff.

259 posted on 07/29/2009 9:54:12 AM PDT by tc45a
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To: LS
LS, here are example of both types....The one we are asking for is the black one. The one BO put on the web is a possible faked of the other. Frmail also coming your way.
260 posted on 07/29/2009 9:55:26 AM PDT by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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