Posted on 07/28/2009 7:42:01 PM PDT by ckilmer
No, I am not Moby :(
but inciting riot is not a good idea... Regardless of his Kenyan birth, we cannot ask such a popular leader to step down, even though he was born in Kenya and his mother never went to the doomed embassy to have his birth recorded so that he could be a natural-born American. Do you think they bombed the embassy to get rid of the records of his birth? Because an American born overseas to American parents is still a natural-born American. I think the constitution was trying to make a distinction between natural-born Americans (whether born here or abroad) and naturalized Americans like Arnold Schwarzenegger.
DON’T FORCE OBAMA TO STEP DOWN! Just realize that Al Qaeda bombed the embassy to destroy ALL RECORDS OF HIS BIRTH so that we would have this kind of real political unrest, the likes of which we haven’t seen since the 60’s - the 1860’s! They are trying to overthrow our government and you are PLAYING RIGHT INTO THEIR HAND! oh, my God, don’t you see it??
Here is what they did in Kenya:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mau_Mau_Uprising
this is what Obama is heir to :(
so sad that Al Qaeda planned it all in advance.
Laz, is that you?
from Deo volente:
“He’s the President of the United States, the most powerful man in the world, and all he’s got is a lousy “Certification of Live Birth” ?
Doesn’t seem fair. I’m nobody, yet I’ve got a real Birth Certificate.”
If I offered you a million bucks, would you tell me the name of the doc (or mid-wife) who signed that birth certificate of yours? The answere should be pretty obvious.
But the curious thing is that the O has *spent* about a million dollars to keep anyone else from seeing that information.
We need a “birther” with deep pockets to offer a million dollar reward for anyone who can name (and prove) the identity of the doctor (or midwife) who delivered the chosen one.
And if the document he’s got on file in Hawaii is a B2, B3, or B4, that’s going to take some doing.
And the longer the offer is out there unclaimed, the stranger the Obama legitimacy question looks.
Imagine you’re a “birther” being ridiculed on TV - all you’d have to say is “okay, who’s the doctor who attended the birth - and why can’t anybody get that information, especially if there’s a million dollars in it for them?”
If the data for the listings came from the Health Department, where are the Nordyke twins? There are other August 5 entrieds, so why not the twins? Were the Nordykes living at the address lsited for Obamas when the twins were born? Why is the address listed for the obama’s a place they never lived?
Why is a birth announcement listed within days of BO’s birthdate? There are announcements of births between the dates of July 31 and August 7. All are listed as “Mr & Mrs” probably because that would have been customary in 1961.
It is significant that, whether correct address or not, BO’s birth announcement is listed at the right time and the right city.
At the same time, it is significant that of all those announcements to have a mistaken address that this announcement is one of those.
“You are assuming he was born in a hospital.”
That’s what family members and Obama himself have said.
I am not assuming but concluding that as the most likely scenario based on the timing of the newspaper announcements.
People registering a foreign birth do it months and years later as need for documentation arises, not 4 days after birth. the place you register a birth right after the event is IN THE LOCALITY OF THE BIRTH.
” There are no records of HOW the papers got that announcement.”
Journalists checked with the process these papers used, so its known the source. Hospitals -> records office -> newspaper.
” That is why it really does not say much.”
It says *something* but that something is discounted by birthers because it is inconvenient to their doubts.
It’s pretty clear to me that it debunks the ‘out of Africa’ fairytale though. There is no way you can or would register a birth on a different continent in Honolulu 4 days after the birth. If a pregnant woman wants to go through the trouble of making it appear there is a birth in her hometown where she lives, the best way is to *STAY HOME*. (Which she did.)
This also debunks the lie about her being shuttled off the island out of shame. Kind of tough to hide a birth that you announce in the hometown newspaper.
And what of the Nordyke twins born just hours after Barry, supposedly? Did their mother reside at the address in the Obama listing? Why were twins not in the list sent from the Health Department to the newspapers? ... Because the fraudulent microfiche was tampered exactly where the real entry for the Nordyke twins was on the oriignal type setting, IHMO.
“Wasn’t Barry’s supposed father already married to someone in Kenya?”
I believe I remember seeing that somewhere. There’s so much info, good and bad going around that it’s hard to keep up with. I think I also saw a copy of a marriage certificate somewhere. One things for sure. Stanley Ann was one strange woman. She musta married rich or something. She and her hubbies traveled the world. They did it on somebodys dime.
Hvae you gotten your birther research friends to confirm that they are not listed in the subsequent weeks announcements?
“Were the Nordykes living at the address lsited for Obamas when the twins were born?”
Doubtless another dead-end speculation.
” Why is the address listed for the obama’s a place they never lived?”
False assumption. You dont know that. You only conclude that from hearsay of someone who cant recollect 47 years ago. Very weak.
oops....I LIKE your version best!
What happened in Honduras? It could happen here. 3/4 of the military did not vote for him. And probably some who did regret it.
Are both of your son’s parents US citizens?
Are you saying that the Nordyke’s did live at that address or are you saying that they might have lived at that address?
Who are they?
Odds are that some archive someplace has a hardcopy remnant of this newspaper.
Also, one just might find one of those other listed birth families actually saved their copy of the announcement. The same with all of those other persons or businesses listed on that page or in that copy of that newspaper.
I didn’t ask you for your obamanoid kneepad opinion. You sure are obsessed to oppose the birthers yet you think the issue should be canned and not addressed. You’re a transparent joke, a real kneepad obamanoid little nettle. Toddle off now
Do we know who assigns the numbers? Because part of the number is a date I doubt the numbers are applied by the hospital. They would then have to chuck all the prior year stock each year. My guess is the numbers are assigned by the state in some sort of sequence as they receive them. In general those in a batch from a hospital would be together but hard to tell where one's that are separate come from.
“Do we know who assigns the numbers?” - I don’t.
“In general those in a batch from a hospital would be together “ - I would think so.
There is currently a small cottage out back at the address, but i do not have tax records yet indicating that it was there as a rental in 1961. It could have been, and would have house a new doctor and his pregnant wife quite nicely until the twins were born.
Any of the children born and recorded in that listing could have a hard copy of the newspaper as a family archive, or any grandparents of any of those children listed might have. I have not been to Hawaii to seek out the pieces of data. If we had an actual free press who were still a fourth estate, they woul dbe digging into that very aspect.
Sadly, the press is a propaganda arm for BArry the Marxist messiah, as the head of CNN proved so graphically while throwing Lou Dobbs under the quisling obamanoid servant bus.
If he was not born where they said he was then the when is in question as well.
Just a couple of days ago this same poster asserted that the listings were sent to the papers from the health department. Whatever suits the current axelrod strategy is what this poster seems to favor posting.
Long but very worthwhile read.
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