Obama Administration Begins Opposition To States Claiming Sovereignty And Gun Rights

blacklistednews ^ | 7/26/2009 | Black Bear Blog

[FlorianG]

The several states are lining up to reclaim their sovereignty and telling the federal government to butt out. This is being done in myriad ways but all are related in that most claim that the Tenth Amendment protects the states from federal tyranny. States are passing resolutions, memorials and two states have passed laws and they intend to apply those laws for their citizens. The two states are Montana and Tennessee.

It was expected that at some point these laws would be challenged and it appears actions to do such has begun. The Federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives has published open letters to federal firearms license holders in Montana and Tennessee explaining that federal law trumps state law when it comes to gun laws

[FlorianG]

More Un-Constitutional crap coming from this administration.

[cranked]

Of course, you cannot have such things under Socialism....

[ChocChipCookie]

If these states truly do stand up to the Feds, watch for mass immigration by die-hard conservatives like myself.

[gimme1ibertee]

watch for mass immigration by die-hard conservatives like myself.

Now,where did I put that darned "For Sale-By Owner-CHEEP!" sign?? ;)

[fso301]

Nothing Hussein would like more than to stir up something and have another Tim McVeigh rush in to rescue his presidency.

[SpinnerWebb]

Great men like Sam Houston and Davey Crockett once came from Tennessee to assist the great nation of Texas. I suppose we owe them.

I’m in.

[rednek]

I heard a radio interview with Randy Terrill - Oklahoma State Rep. He has introduced a bill to place a measure on the ballot in 2010 to make English the official language in Oklahoma. Our Attorney General received a letter from attorney general Holder threatening to with hold federal funds if it passes. Our state legislators are pissed to say the least!

holder and buckwheat can go pound sand! If it was up to me, I’d dig up and cut every road in the state that accesses a federal facility (office, military base, park, etc) and tell the feds to kiss my ass!.....red

[oneolcop]

They can come and get my guns any time. Unfortunately, I was out in my canoe on lake Pend O’reille with all my guns and the canoe capsized in the deepest part of the lake; like 1100 feet deep. I lost every single one of them. Darn!

[Kakaze]

Our Attorney General received a letter from attorney general Holder threatening to with hold federal funds if it passes

Just with hold the funds first, why send D.C. tax money to get only 73 to 92 % back, never made sense to me.

The gov't cannot function without tax revenue.

[Man50D]

The Federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives has published open letters to federal firearms license holders in Montana and Tennessee explaining that federal law trumps state law when it comes to gun laws.

While the ATF is citing federal law they should also cite Article 1 Section 8 of the Constitution that lists all the powers granted to Congress by the Constitution. No where in Article 1 Section 8 is it listed that Congress has the power to create a federal police force including the ATF. The ATF is unconstitutional.

[taxtruth]

If the states don’t fund the feds then they have no control/power.This is going to get very ugly.The states have the power on their side.

[TLI]

From the day Obama was elected, the people rushed to stores buying up guns and ammunition at unprecedented rates. With the combination of a new president and staff known to want to ban gun and gun sales and the District of Columbia vs. Heller ruling, it has helped spur more laws to relax gun restrictions. This, I am positive, angers the Obama administration.

Angers? The Bammie administration is figuratively bleeding from their ears.

When The Øne blinked and “stupidly” announced in front of national news cameras that “there was no need to run out and buy guns” EVERYONE knew exactly what to do.

Run out and buy several guns and as much ammo as was (and is) on the shelves. Keep right on buying guns and ammo until The Øne is back in his hole in Chicago.

That is exacty what is occurring and there is not a damn thing The Øne can do about it.

Except perhaps get in front of the cameras on nearly a daily basis and lie like Bagdad Bob… oh, wait, that is exactly what he is doing as we type and read.

[beefree]

“I lost every single one of them”

THIS would make a grown man cry.

[weps4ret]

He wants to stir things up enough where he can declare martial law, suspend the Constitution and become supreme leader.

He will do whatever it takes to taunt someone into doing something he feels merits taking charge. I think he is in for a surprise as I believe it will start in his beloved “Rat” Big Blue Cities. Chicago, Detroit, LA, or NYC.

Gunner

[Centurion2000]

If the states don’t fund the feds then they have no control/power.This is going to get very ugly.The states have the power on their side.

Fed's got the nukes. So yeah this could get REALLY ugly.

[devistate one four]

Ding! Ding! Ding!
That’s a winner folks.

How true.

[Centurion2000]

He wants to stir things up enough where he can declare martial law, suspend the Constitution and become supreme leader.

And that's when the civil war will start.

[freekitty]

True. It’s not their money.

[NTHockey]

>>Fed's got the nukes. So yeah this could get REALLY ugly.<<

I agree that this is going to get ugly; but nukes? What exactly would be the purpose of turning your own country into a radioactive parking lot? It's not like there would be anyone left to push around, or make speeches to, or wield power.

[TexasRepublic]

If these states truly do stand up to the Feds...

The Feds won't back off. They will send in tanks if they have to.

[bill1952]

> believe it will start in his beloved “Rat” Big Blue Cities. Chicago, Detroit, LA, or NYC.

Considering that those cesspools are heavily Union controlled Democrat strongholds with huge black populations, I do believe that your statement is wishful thinking...
Think again.

[bill1952]

The Feds won't back off. They will send in tanks if they have to.

The ATF use tanks in America? Nah.

[Centurion2000]

It's not like there would be anyone left to push around, or make speeches to, or wield power.

Incinerate one city as an example.

[BlueNgold]

Am I not mistaken or were the laws written specifically to include only native firearms sold to resident citizens thus making the commerce clause moot? Without commerce the feds should have NO jurisdiction in the matter.

[taxtruth]

The states are already ganging up on the fed and the pen should be the weapon of choice to be used in the USSC argument.Remember the states created the national government for a more perfect union.It has become far from perfect and more like a national dictatorship run via control freaks.

[EdReform]

Ping

[Lurker]

thus making the commerce clause moot?

Wickard v Filburn.

[Shooter 2.5]

The Federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives has published open letters to federal firearms license holders in Montana and Tennessee explaining that federal law trumps state law when it comes to gun laws.

Federal law does trump state laws on gun regulations. Too bad the feds don't read the Constitution.

If politicians don't read their own bills, who expects law enforcement to read the laws?

[july4thfreedomfoundation]

I like the way you think, red!

[scramjet]

I lost all of mine in a bungee jumping accident. Should of never used velcro.

[july4thfreedomfoundation]

BATF = Burn All Toddlers First

[ctdonath2]

Yeah, like they’re going to nuke Jackson Hole or Houston.

[MrB]

Even Tim McVeigh came to understand that his actions were unproductive. He stated he should have followed the Bowman strategy instead of the Turner strategy.

[April Lexington]

They can come and get my guns any time. Unfortunately, I was out in my canoe on lake Pend O’reille with all my guns and the canoe capsized in the deepest part of the lake; like 1100 feet deep. I lost every single one of them. Darn!

Wow! Me too... only.. no wait, my guns were all stolen by ACORN burglars during the election...

[Lucky9teen]

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[April Lexington]

The states are already ganging up on the fed and the pen should be the weapon of choice to be used in the USSC argument.Remember the states created the national government for a more perfect union.It has become far from perfect and more like a national dictatorship run via control freaks.

The states should get together and vote the Federal government out of existence and replace it with a VERY LIMITED administrative organ with NO legislative or executive authority. Let the administrator report to a national congress of state governors...

[ctdonath2]

Wickard v Filburn : Farmer grows grain for his own livestock; was deemed subject to regulation thereof as commodity grain was indistinguishable from what commonly moves in interstate commerce.

Raich : Terminally ill elderly woman grew pot for own medical use under doctor's supervision as allowed by CA law; was deemed subject to regulation* thereof as reducing demand in an illegal interstate market.

Stewart : Convicted felon makes homemade machinegun, impossible to legally move in interstate commerce (can neither buy nor sell); was deemed subject to regulation* per Raich verdict.

Ergo, the commerce clause is moot. These states may declare portions of their intra-state arms market not subject to federal regulation, but Wickard established the "fungible" principle despite obvious non-interstate use, Raich applied it despite state legality, and Stewart applied it to firearms. These states are trying to forge a path in already-paved territory.

(* - to wit: prohibition)

[JenB987]

We went to purchase a new pistol last night and this picture was on the wall at the shop next to an enlarged blog article about the birth certificate issue.

I always feels so at home in gun shops. :)

[April Lexington]

If they want to try this again, I suggest they turn around first and notice what’s pointed at them...

[Rodebrecht]

And people call me crazy when I say the 2nd should protect RPGs.

[Centurion2000]

Yeah, like they’re going to nuke Jackson Hole or Houston

Maybe just Austin and Cheyenne. Once the velvet gloves come off and political correctness is thrown by the wayside, what makes you think that the hammers wont get used?

[djsherin]

“The Federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives has published open letters to federal firearms license holders in Montana and Tennessee explaining that federal law trumps state law when it comes to gun laws”

And the Constitution trumps federal law.

[TexasRepublic]

Don’t expect wannabe dictators to play by conventional rules. When the pen fails, they will resort to violence.

[djsherin]

This is the best idea I’ve heard all week.

[djsherin]

It’s almost difficult to believe this actually happened...

[ctdonath2]

18,000,000 deer hunters. ‘nuff said.

[MrB]

I think it’s a mistake for the states to give the FEDERAL courts jurisdiction on the subject of state sovereignty. It’s an inherent conflict of interest.

Basically, any law outside of Article I, Section 8 powers of the fedgov has no jurisdiction outside of the states.

[djsherin]

I don’t think you’re crazy at all.

[MrB]

The Constitution is a CONTRACT under which the general government entity was formed by permission of the pre-existing state entities.

The CREATED entity is now in violation of the contract under which it was created in the first place.