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Democrats Meet in 1 Hour to Mark Up Healthcare Legislation (blue dogs cut deal)
Red State ^ | July 29th at 12:42PM EDT | by Erick Erickson

Posted on 07/29/2009 9:57:12 AM PDT by MaestroLC

Democrats will meet in committee in one hour to begin marking up healthcare legislation. They’ve cut a deal with the Blue Dog Democrats.

Go here and get the number for your Congressman. Call now.

Tell him to oppose H.R. 3200.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 111th; blue; bluedogs; congress; democrats; healthcare; obamacare; vote
As expected, House Dems will try to vote and pass Obamacare before the August recess.
1 posted on 07/29/2009 9:57:13 AM PDT by MaestroLC
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To: MaestroLC

Can we completely bankrupt America ? YES WE CAN !


2 posted on 07/29/2009 9:58:10 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: MaestroLC

If it passes, Blue Dogs and Obama will go down to defeat.

If it fails, Obama will have wasted much political capital.

It didn’t have to be this way. But Obama and the Democrats wanted to ignore the people.


3 posted on 07/29/2009 9:58:45 AM PDT by cvq3842 (Countless thousands of our ancestors died to give us the freedoms we have today. Stay involved!)
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To: MaestroLC

Do you have this right?


4 posted on 07/29/2009 9:58:59 AM PDT by Warlord
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To: MaestroLC

I’m shocked I tell ya, just shocked. Blue dogs are nothing more than Democrats with bigger bridges being built with their names on them.


5 posted on 07/29/2009 9:59:02 AM PDT by kempster
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To: MaestroLC

Did they cut a deal to not vote on it until after they all return from their Bora Bora vacation homes?


6 posted on 07/29/2009 9:59:07 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Obama, the first ever 3 in a half year, lame duck TOTUS)
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To: MaestroLC

Like anyone ever thought for a second that these supposed “Blue Dog” Dems would ever vote against their own party. Please, all this is was posturing to make themselves look like they give a damn about their constituents. They were always gonna vote for this crap sandwich. If this thing passes, America as we know it is done, sorry to say it, but that’s just the way it is


7 posted on 07/29/2009 9:59:18 AM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: fieldmarshaldj

>> Can we completely bankrupt America ? YES WE CAN ! <<

It is not like the Fiat currency that we print is worth anything anyways.

Maybe they will just print more money to cover it....


8 posted on 07/29/2009 10:00:08 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: MaestroLC

Told ya, polls or the will of people matter not to these idiotic morons.


9 posted on 07/29/2009 10:00:09 AM PDT by cranked
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To: MaestroLC

I’m assuming that “cut a deal” is a euphamism for the bluedogs getting thier piece of the pie (extortion money).


10 posted on 07/29/2009 10:01:12 AM PDT by subterfuge (BUILD MORE NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS NOW!!!)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

This will be a signal for the blue dog voters to choose (R) next time around.


11 posted on 07/29/2009 10:01:29 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Democrat Party: a criminal organization masquerading as a political party)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

This will be a terrible mistake on the part of the Blue Dogs.
If they vote yes on obamacare I believe you will see Americans, conservative Americans, rise up as never before.

Spread the word on the September March on D.C.!!!!!!!!!!


12 posted on 07/29/2009 10:02:09 AM PDT by Josa
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To: MaestroLC

No matter what the deal turns out to be, America is screwed.

That flushing sound you hear approaching, is more of our freedom going down the toilet.


13 posted on 07/29/2009 10:03:57 AM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: All

Never trust a dog that has been choked blue......


14 posted on 07/29/2009 10:04:54 AM PDT by pepperhead (Kennedys float, Mary Jos don't)
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To: MaestroLC

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/07/29/blue-dog-democrats-announce-deal-health-care-reform/


15 posted on 07/29/2009 10:05:03 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Obama, the first ever 3 in a half year, lame duck TOTUS)
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To: kempster
"I’m shocked I tell ya, just shocked. Blue dogs are nothing more than Democrats with bigger bridges being built with their names on them."

At the end of the day, Blue Dog Democrats . . .

are still stinkin' Democrats!
16 posted on 07/29/2009 10:05:35 AM PDT by mentor2k
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To: pepperhead
" " Though House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer says the bill won't reach a floor vote by the August recess, leaders hoped to get the bill out of committee by the end of the week."

Bullcrap if it is ready Rahm will ram it in. Will anyone read it?

17 posted on 07/29/2009 10:07:01 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Obama, the first ever 3 in a half year, lame duck TOTUS)
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To: cranked

Told ya, polls or the will of people matter not to these idiotic morons.
__________________________________________

ONLY during election time.


18 posted on 07/29/2009 10:07:13 AM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Obama. Clear and Pres__ent Danger.)
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To: subterfuge
I’m assuming that “cut a deal” is a euphamism for the bluedogs getting thier piece of the pie (extortion money).

Yep. And "cutting a deal" with Obama, Pelosi, et al is a euphamism for "getting lied to".

19 posted on 07/29/2009 10:09:56 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

Exactly.


20 posted on 07/29/2009 10:10:16 AM PDT by cranked
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To: Warlord
Yeah unfortunately he has it right.

The Blue Dogs caved.

21 posted on 07/29/2009 10:11:08 AM PDT by mware (F-R-E-E, that spells free. Free Republic.com baby.)
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To: cranked
Detail.

They will not vote on this until Sept.

The Republicans MUST spend the entire month of AUG on the House floor reading the details of this bill.

Make Nancy bar the door, and if she does, stand on the steps of the Capitol and read it.

22 posted on 07/29/2009 10:13:37 AM PDT by mware (F-R-E-E, that spells free. Free Republic.com baby.)
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To: MaestroLC

I’m watching the markets to see how this makes them feel.


23 posted on 07/29/2009 10:13:44 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: subterfuge
I’m assuming that “cut a deal” is a euphamism for the bluedogs getting thier piece of the pie (extortion money).

She can't guarantee they'll keep their seats.

I'm wondering if she's offering some kind of golden parachute for their life after Critterdom.

Note to the BDs and Pelosi: Don't think you'll get busted for bribery? Talk to Monica Conyers.

24 posted on 07/29/2009 10:14:22 AM PDT by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

” Though House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer says the bill won’t reach a floor vote by the August recess, leaders hoped to get the bill out of committee by the end of the week.”

The best world would probably to get a bill out of committee but no vote. That way we can chew the Blue Dogs a new one in August. Its the details that kill them.


25 posted on 07/29/2009 10:17:42 AM PDT by FastCoyote (I am intolerant of the intolerable.)
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To: mware
They will not vote on this until Sept. The Republicans MUST spend the entire month of AUG on the House floor reading the details of this bill.

What Dems are desperately trying to do is vote this out of committee before August recess.

It is vital that this is where it gets stopped.

The so-called blue-dogs were pressured and caved, because even though they will be yelled at in August by the American people, they know that in September the full House will pass Obamacare.

26 posted on 07/29/2009 10:22:25 AM PDT by MaestroLC ("Let him who wants peace prepare for war."--Vegetius, A.D. Fourth Century)
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To: MaestroLC

Pg 22 of the HC Bill MANDATES the Govt will audit the books of ALL EMPLOYERS that self insure!!
Pg 30 Sec 123 of HC bill - THERE WILL BE A GOVT COMMITTEE that decides what treatments/benefits you get
Pg 29 lines 4-16 in the HC bill - YOUR HEALTHCARE IS RATIONED!!!
Pg 42 of HC Bill - The Health Choices Commissioner will choose your benefits for you. You have no choice!
Pg 50 Section 152 in HC bill - HC will be provided to ALL NON US citizens, illegal or otherwise
Pg 58HC Bill - Govt will have real-time access to individual’s finances & a National ID Health care card will be issued!
Pg 59 HC Bill lines 21-24 Govt will have direct access to your banks accts for electronic funds transfer.
Pg 65 Sec 164 is a payoff subsidized plan for retirees and their families in Unions & community orgs (ACORN).
Pg 72 Lines 8-14 Govt is creating an HC Exchange to bring priv HC plans under Govt control.
Pg 84 Sec 203 HC bill - Govt mandates ALL benefit packages for private Health Care plans in the Exchange
Pg 85 Line 7 HC Bill - Specs for of Benefit Levels for Plans = The Govt will ration your Healthcare!
Pg 91 Lines 4-7 HC Bill - Govt mandates linguistic appropriate services. Example - Translation for illegal aliens.
Pg 95 HC Bill Lines 8-18 The Govt will use groups i.e., ACORN & Americorps to sign up individuals for Govt HC plan
Pg 85 Line 7 HC Bill - Specs of Ben Levels 4 Plans. #AARP members - Your Health Care WILL be rationed
Pg 102 Lines 12-18 HC Bill - Medicaid Eligible Individual will be automat.enrolled in Medicaid. No choice.
Pg 124 lines 24-25 HC No company can sue Govt on price fixing. No “judicial review” against Govt Monopoly.
Pg 126 Lines 22-25 Employers MUST pay for HC for part time employees AND their families.
Pg 127 Lines 1-16 HC Bill - Doctors/ #AMA - The Govt will tell YOU what you can make.
Pg 145 Line 15-17 An Employer MUST auto enroll employees into public opt plan. NO CHOICE
Pg 149 Lines 16-24 ANY Emplyr w payroll 400k & above who does not prov. pub opt. pays 8% tax on all payroll
Pg 150 Lines 9-13 Biz w payroll btw 251k & 400k who doesnt provide public opt pays 2-6% tax on all payroll
Pg 167 Lines 18-23 ANY individual who doesnt have acceptable HC according to Govt will be taxed 2.5% of income.
Pg 170 Lines 1-3 Any NONRESIDENT Alien is exempt from individual taxes. (Americans will pay).
Pg 195 Officers & employees of HC Admin (GOVT) will have access to ALL Americans financial and personal records.
Pg 203 Line 14-15 HC - “The tax imposed under this section shall not be treated as tax” Yes, it says that.
Pg 239 Line 14-24 HC Bill Govt will reduce physician services for Medicaid. Seniors, low income, poor affected.
Pg 241 Line 6-8 HC Bill - Doctors, doesnt matter what specialty you have, you’ll all be paid the same.
Pg 253 Line 10-18 Govt sets value of Dr’s time, prof judg, etc. Literally value of humans.
Pg 265 Sec 1131Govt mandates & controls productivity for private HC industries.
Pg 268 Sec 1141 Fed Govt regulates rental & purchase of power driven wheelchairs.
Pg 272 SEC. 1145. Treatment of certain cancer hospitals – Cancer patients - welcome to rationing!
Page 280 Sec 1151 The Govt will penalize hospitals for what Govt deems preventable readmissions. (Incentives for hospital to not treat and release.)
Pg 298 Lines 9-11 Drs, treat a patient during initial admission that results in a readmission-Govt will penalize you.
Pg 317 L 13-20 PROHIBITION on ownership/investment. Govt tells Drs. what/how much they can own.
Pg 317-318 lines 21-25,1-3 PROHIBITION on expansion- Govt is mandating hospitals cannot expand.
pg 321 2-13 Hospitals have opportunity to apply for exception BUT community input required. Can you say ACORN?!!
Pg335 L 16-25 Pg 336-339 - Govt mandates established of outcome based measures. HC the way they want. Rationing.
Pg 341 Lines 3-9 Govt has authority to disqualify Medicare Advantage Plans (Part B), HMOs, etc. Forcing people into Govt plan.
Pg 379 Sec 1191 Govt creates more bureaucracy - Telehealth Advisory Committee. HC by phone/Internet?
Pg 425 Lines 4-12 Govt mandates Advance [Death] Care Planning Consult. Think Senior Citizens end of life.
Pg 425 Lines 17-19 Govt will instruct & consult regarding living wills, durable powers of atty. Mandatory!
Pg 425 Lines 22-25, 426 Lines 1-3 Gov’t provides approved list of end of life resources, guiding you in death. Pg 354 Sec 1177 - Govt will RESTRICT enrollment of Special needs people!

Pg 427 Lines 15-24 Govt mandates program for orders for end of life. The Gov’t has a say in how your life ends.
Pg 429 Lines 1-9 An “adv. care planning consult” will be used frequently as patients health deteriorates.
Pg 429 Lines 10-12 “adv. care consultation” may incl an ORDER for end of life plans. AN ORDER from GOV
Pg 429 Lines 13-25 - The govt will specify which Doctors can write an end of life order.
PG 430 Lines 11-15 The Govt will decide what level of treatment you will have at end of life
Pg 469 - Community Based Home Medical Services=Non profit orgs. Hello, ACORN Medical Svcs here!!?
Pg 472 Lines 14-17 PAYMENT TO COMMUNITY-BASED ORG. 1 monthly payment to a community-based org. Like ACORN?
Pg 489 Sec 1308 The Govt will cover Marriage & Family therapy. They will insert Government into your marriage.
Pg 494-498 Govt will cover Mental Health Svcs including defining, creating, rationing those svcs
PG 502 Sec 1181 Center for Comparative Effectiveness Research Established. – Hello Big Brother – Literally.
Pg 503 Lines 13-19 Gov’t will build registries and data networks from YOUR electronic med records.
Pg 503 lines 21-25 Gov’t may secure data directly from any depart or agency of the US including your data.
Pg 504 Lines 6-10 The “Center” will collect data both published & unpublished (that means public & your private info)
PG 506 Lines 19-21 The Center will recommend policies that would allow for public access of data.
PG 518 Lines 21-25 The Commission will have input from HC consumer reps – Can you say unions & ACORN?
PG 524 18-22 Comparative Effectiveness Research Trust Fund set up. More taxes for ALL.
PG 621 Lines 20-25 Gov’t will define what Quality means in HC. Since when does Gov’t know about quality?
Pg 622 Lines 2-9 To pay for the Quality Standards, Govt will transfer $$ from to other Govt Trust Funds. More Taxes.
PG 624 “Quality” measures shall be designed to assess outcomes & functional status of patients.
PG 624 “Quality” measures shall be designed to profile you including race, age, gender, place of residence, etc
Pg 628 Sec 1443 Gov’t will give “Multi-Stake Holders” Pre-Rule Making input into Selection of “Quality” Measures.
Pg 630 9-24/631 1-9 Those Multi-stake holder groups incl. Unions & groups like ACORN deciding HC quality.
Pg 632 Lines 14-25 The Gov’t may implement any “Quality measure” of HC Services as they see fit.
PG 633 14-25/ 634 1-9 The Secretary may issue non-endorsed “Quality Measures” for Physician Services & Dialysis Services.
Pg 635 to 653 Physicians Payments Sunshine Provision – Gov’t wants to shine sunlight on Docs but not Govt.
Pg 654-659 Public Reporting on Health Care-Associated Infections – Looks okay.
PG 660-671 Doctors in Residency – Gov’t will tell you where your residency will be, thus where you’ll live.
Pg 676-686 Gov’t will regulate hospitals in EVERY aspect of residency programs, incl. teaching hospitals.
Pg 686-700 Increased Funding to Fight Waste, Fraud, and Abuse. You mean like the Gov’t with an $18 million website?
PGs 701-704 Sec 1619 If your part of HC plan isn’t in Gov’t HC Exchange but you qualify for Fed aid, no payment.
PG 705-709 SEC. 1128 If Secr gets complaints (ACORN) on HC provider or supplier, Gov’t can do background check.
PG 711 Lines 8-14 The Secretary has broad powers to deny HC providers/suppliers admittance into HC Exchange. Your doctor could be thrown out of business.
Pg 719-720 Sec 1637 ANY Doctor who orders durable med equip or home med services MUST be enrolled in Medicare.
PG 722 Sec 1639 Gov’t MANDATES Doctors must have face to face with patient to certify patient for Home Health Svcs.
PG 724 23-25 PG 725 1-5 The same Gov’t certifications will apply to Medicaid & CHIP (your kids)
PG 724 Lines 16-22 Gov’t reserves rt to apply face to face certification for patient to ANY other HC service.
Pg 735 lines 16-25 For law enforce. proposes the Secretary-HHS will give Atty General access to ALL data.
PG 740-757 Gov’t sets guidelines for subsidizing the uninsured (Thats your tax dollars people)
Pg 757-762 Fed gov’t will shift burden of payments to Disproportionate Share Hospitals (DSH) to States. (Taxes)
Pg 763 1-8 No DS/EA hospitals will be paid unless they provide services without regard to national origin
Pg 765 Sec 1711 Gov’t will require Preventative Services including vaccines. (Choice?)
Pg 768 Sec 1713 Gov’t – Nurse Home Visitation Svcs (Hello union paybacks)
Pg 769 11-14 Nurse Home Visit Svcs include-economic self-sufficiency, employ adv, school-readiness.
Pg 769 3-5 Nurse Home Visit Services - “increasing birth intervals between pregnancies.” Govt ABORTIONS anyone
Pg 770 SEC 1714 Fed Gov’t mandates eligibility for State Family Planning Services. Abortion & State Sovereign.
Pg 789-797 Gov’t will set, mandate drug prices, controlling which drugs brought to market. Bye innovation.
Pgs 797-800 SEC. 1744 PAYMENTS for graduate medical education. The government will now control Drs’ education.
PG 801 Sec 1751 The Govt will decide which Health care conditions will be paid. Say RATION!
Pg 810 SEC. 1759. Billing Agents, clearinghouses, etc req. to register. Gov’t takes over private payment sys.
Pg 820-824 Sec 1801 Govt will identify individ. ineligible for subsidies. Will access all personal financial information.
Pg 824-829 SEC. 1802. Govt Sets up Comparative Effectiveness Research Trust Fund. Another tax black hole.
PG 829-833 Gov’t will impose a fee on ALL private health ins. plans incl. self insured to pay for Trust Fund!
PG 835 11-13 fees imposed by Gov’t for Trust Fund shall be treated as if they were taxes.
Pg 838-840 Gov’t will design & implement Home Visitation Program for families with young kids & families expect kids.
PG 844-845 This Home Visitation Prog. includes Gov’t coming into your house & telling you how to parent!!!
Pg 859 Gov’t will establish a Public Health Fund at a cost of $88,800,000,000. Yes that’s Billion.
Pg 865 The Gov’t will MANDATE the establishment of a National Health Service Corps.
PG 865 to 876 The NHS Corps is a program where Drs. perform mandatory HC for 2yrs for part loan repayment.
PG 876-892 The govt takes over the education of our Med students and Drs.
PG 898 The Govt will establish a Public Health Workforce Corps to ensure supply of public health prof.
PG 898 The Public health workforce corps shall consist of civilian employees of the U.S. as Secretary deems.
PG 898 The Public health workforce corps shall consist of officers of Regular & Reserve Corps of Service.
PG 900 The Public Health Workforce Corps includes veterinarians.
PG 901 The Public Health Workforce Corps WILL include commissioned Regular & Reserve Officers. HC Draft?
PG 910 The Govt will develop, build & run Public Health Training Centers.
PG 913-914 Govt starts a HC affirmative action program thru guise of diversity scholarships.
PG 915 SEC. 2251. Govt MANDDATES Cultural & linguistic competency training for HC professionals.
Pg 932 The Govt will estab Preventative & Wellness Trust fund- initial cost of $30,800,000,000-Billion.
PG 935 21-22 Govt will identify specific goals & objectives for prevention & wellness activities. Control YOU!!
PG 936 Govt will develop “Healthy People & National Public Health Perform. Standards” Tell me what to eat?
PG 942 Lines 22-25 More Gov’t? Offices of Surgeon General -Public Health Svc, Minority Health, Women’s Health
PG 950- 980 BIG GOV’T core pub health infrastructure including workforce capacity, lab systems; health info sys, etc
PG 993 Gov’t will establish school based health clinics. Your kids won’t have a chance.
PG 994 School Based Health Clinic will be integrated into the school environment. Say GOVT Brainwash!
PG 1001 The Govt will establish a National Medical Device Registry. Will you be tracked?
I do not know if these are accurate, but unlike most in Congress or the Senate who don’t read the bills they vote on (shameful), some Americans do take the time to read it.


27 posted on 07/29/2009 10:25:23 AM PDT by mojitojoe (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people the people to remain silent.)
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To: MaestroLC
If Rush is correct with the details the vote will not be until they come back at the end of Auguest.

The Blue Dogs are going to be in a world of hurt if this is correct.

It also offers the Republicans an opportunity to use the whole month to educate the public to the details.

28 posted on 07/29/2009 10:25:36 AM PDT by mware (F-R-E-E, that spells free. Free Republic.com baby.)
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To: All

BTTT


29 posted on 07/29/2009 10:26:29 AM PDT by sheikdetailfeather (OBAMANOCARE: No Privacy, No Choice, No Humanity, No Quality, No Health, No Life)
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To: GraceG

Look on the bright side, it’ll be valuable to line the cat litter and bird cages with...


30 posted on 07/29/2009 10:27:39 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: mware
If Rush is correct with the details the vote will not be until they come back at the end of Auguest

What Rush said is that Dems want this passed out of committee on Friday before the August recess. That is where it has been stalled by the so-called Blue Dog Dems and they want it passed to lesson the complaints from their constituents during the recess.

He also said that the full House will vote on the bill in September, where he is certain it will pass. They don't need any Republican votes. They don't care what the American people think.

31 posted on 07/29/2009 10:30:26 AM PDT by MaestroLC ("Let him who wants peace prepare for war."--Vegetius, A.D. Fourth Century)
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To: MaestroLC
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32 posted on 07/29/2009 11:08:36 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: kempster

McCain said it

Blue dogs bark but they don’t bite


33 posted on 07/29/2009 2:15:51 PM PDT by JaneNC (I)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
This will be a signal for the blue dog voters to choose (R) next time around.

I wish that were true. Unfortunately the average American demoRAT voters and so called "independent" voters are dumber than a box of rocks. The "blue dog" demoRATs vote the liberal-socialist-marxist party line 98% of the time on the crucial bills of more taxes, more gubmint spending, gun control laws, implementing the Fairness Doctrine, Hate Crimes (for homos, blacks & Islamics) legislation, Cap n Tax legislation. The blue dog demoRATs spin it so it sounds like they voted for the John Birch Society agenda right down the line, when they come back to their districts and sound like hard core conservatives, evangelical born-again Christians, pro-American, pro-Israel, and the dumb ass sheeple will fall for this pack of lies and return the blue dogs and any demoRATs for that matter, back to the Congress with 60-80% winning margins. Go figure. Dumb ass voters!!!

35 posted on 07/29/2009 6:25:23 PM PDT by rcrngroup
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To: MaestroLC
You know there is an even better resource for your district`s congresscritter`s contact info at http://recessrally.com it also has info on up coming rallies planned across the nation against the rat`s commie care agenda during planned congressional recess.
36 posted on 07/29/2009 10:03:44 PM PDT by nomad
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