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No 'Professor' Obama at U. of C. (Flashback, Lied on Resume)
Chicago Sun Times ^ | March 2008

Posted on 07/29/2009 11:39:26 AM PDT by mnehring

WASHINGTON -- The University of Chicago released a statement Thursday saying Sen. Barack Obama "served as a professor" in the law school -- but that is a title Obama, who taught courses there part-time, never held, a spokesman for the school confirmed on Friday.

"He did not hold the title of professor of law," said Marsha Ferziger Nagorsky, an assistant dean for communications and lecturer in law at the school.

The U. of C. statement was posted on the school's Web site two days after the Clinton campaign issued a memo headlined: "Just Embellished Words: Senator Obama's Record of Exaggerations & Misstatements."

(Excerpt) Read more at suntimes.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: academia; bho44; chicago; demlies; highereducation; lawschool; lie; obama; obamarecord; obamatruthfile; resume; thekenyan; uofc
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1 posted on 07/29/2009 11:39:26 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: mnehring; cardinal4

Per Rush: He’s now “Dr. Chicago.”


2 posted on 07/29/2009 11:40:59 AM PDT by Ax
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To: mnehring

he has lied on everything, thus the sealed records.

I would bet the farm that he is hiding documents and information which make him ineligible to serve. Why else would he sign a bill on his first day of office which stated that ALL of his records were sealed!
Whether its birth certificate, relationships with enemies of the US, lies under oath, fraud, theft which he was involves in and gained millions which were never reported..... income tax evasion, murders of the 2 guys who suspiciously were killed during his campaign
(1 the gay choir director at Rev. Wright’s church who had a drug/homo affair with obmanation and
2) Lt. Q. Harris, age 24 who was testifying for the FBI about the passport theft which was done by obamanation’s security chief and friend in order to wipe out the records connected to that

I don’t care WHICH records they are. I do care that he is a COUNTERFEIT, a liar and a coward who knows he is on borrowed time, and wants to cut America off at her knees, which he is doing, before either being found out, or we are attacked and he allows us to be overcome... America ends up being a third world country and obmanation goes back and lives with the king of Saudi Arabia whose ring he kissed and who has been a promoter of him for over 20 years..

I believe he has been “kept”, paid for and groomed just for this - to overthrow America.

Why was there not a vetting process? Who was responsible for that?


3 posted on 07/29/2009 11:41:40 AM PDT by bareford101 (the obamanation is a COUNTERFEIT with a COUNTERFEIT birth cert. & 39 different ss cards)
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To: mnehring

Sorry, but on a resume I think that is a acceptable usage by Obama. When your boss says that you “served as a cigarette smoker” you can damn well put “Cigarette Smoker” as your official title.


4 posted on 07/29/2009 11:42:02 AM PDT by bvw
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To: mnehring

The prevaricating “professor.”


5 posted on 07/29/2009 11:43:51 AM PDT by Wardenclyffe
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To: mnehring

Bush, Kerry, and Gore released full medical and educational records. I think McCain did as well. Why didn’t the Kenyan?


6 posted on 07/29/2009 11:44:14 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: bvw

Not exactly, for example, if your title is Customer Service Rep but you helped train a new hire class once, your title didn’t evolve to Trainer, you are still a Customer Service Rep. (this came up on a resume I saw recently)


7 posted on 07/29/2009 11:45:40 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: mnehring
BOW BEFORE ZOD DEPARTMENT

"Resume fraud, like citizen status, corruption, and treason, DOES NOT MATTER when I do it."

8 posted on 07/29/2009 11:47:21 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("Those who go below the surface do so at their peril" - Oscar Wilde)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

McCain didn’t release full educational records.


9 posted on 07/29/2009 11:48:05 AM PDT by graf008 ("My most important function on the Supreme Court is to tell the majority to take a walk." -Scalia)
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To: mnehring

Shocked....totally shocked I tell ya. So you are telling me Obama lied? /sarc


10 posted on 07/29/2009 11:48:17 AM PDT by claymax
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To: mnehring

In New Zealand our courts send people to gaol for lying on their CVs. We have a case before the courts right now where a senior official has apparently told fibs on her CV. The very least that will happen is that she’ll be dismissed.


11 posted on 07/29/2009 11:50:15 AM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: mnehring

That’s all I need...Impeach him!


12 posted on 07/29/2009 11:51:18 AM PDT by blueyon (It is worth taking a stand even if you are standing alone!)
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To: DieHard the Hunter

gaol, I had to look that one up. :->


13 posted on 07/29/2009 11:52:15 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: bareford101
he has lied on everything, thus the sealed records.

And nothing from MSM - I hope MSM implodes and their numbers become so low they become irreverent. Of course that will be a moot statement when the lefties get their way. MSM will print what the lefties want at a lot less pay and HORRIBLE health benefits. Yep, they will be swimming in the drainage ditch with the rest of us.

14 posted on 07/29/2009 11:52:39 AM PDT by Bitsy
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To: mnehring

Wonder if his claim that he stayed in a Holiday Express one night is also false.....


15 posted on 07/29/2009 11:53:08 AM PDT by Mac from Cleveland (How to make a small fortune in the Obama era--first, start off with a big fortune....)
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To: Mac from Cleveland

Uh-Holiday Inn Express, I meant.


16 posted on 07/29/2009 11:54:07 AM PDT by Mac from Cleveland (How to make a small fortune in the Obama era--first, start off with a big fortune....)
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To: mnehring

May I suggest that example you gave is a great example of a picayune distinction? Did the man serve as a Trainer? Then he’s a trainer. I trust in the future ability of people once they are liberated from the chains of picayunity.


17 posted on 07/29/2009 11:57:44 AM PDT by bvw
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To: Bitsy

Of course, it’s a little like a back alley crap game—they don’t much care if you uncover their scam-loaded dice, etc. Once you’re no longer fooled, that’s when plan B-force comes into play-instead of a live pigeon who lost their money, you’ll be a dead man who called them on their lies.

BO should have ACORN and his other mobs in place by 2012 to either rig his re-election, or if he loses, burn this mutha down-wait and see.

In the meantime-I don’t think he cares what any of us think.......


18 posted on 07/29/2009 11:57:52 AM PDT by Mac from Cleveland (How to make a small fortune in the Obama era--first, start off with a big fortune....)
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To: mnehring

thanks for posting this article to clear the air- Obama was a Senior Lecturer and part time at that- just recently within this past week Leo Donofrio made a similar mistake when someone posted something from his blog and Donofrio called Obeyme a “Constitutional lawyer”. get it right!!!


19 posted on 07/29/2009 11:58:03 AM PDT by MissDairyGoodnessVT ("Economy is the method by which we prepare today to afford the improvements of tomorrow"C.Coolidge)
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To: graf008

which records of McCain did you need to see?
You know he was 5th from the bottom at the USNA.
Hard to say he padded his credentialsor mislead anyone


20 posted on 07/29/2009 11:58:47 AM PDT by RWGinger
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To: bareford101

you know what really kills me??? his paperwork trail when he was in the Illinois State Senate- nothing, nada, zip, not even a shred of a schedule.


21 posted on 07/29/2009 11:59:10 AM PDT by MissDairyGoodnessVT ("Economy is the method by which we prepare today to afford the improvements of tomorrow"C.Coolidge)
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To: mnehring; Ax; bareford101; bvw; Wardenclyffe; Oldeconomybuyer; Diogenesis; graf008; claymax; ...
Who is Barrack Obama??

Original birth certificate — Not released
Obama/Dunham marriage license — Not released
Soetoro/Dunham marriage license — Not released
Soetoro adoption records — Not released
Besuki School application — Released
Punahou School records — Not released
Selective Service Registration — Released and under suspicion
Occidental College records — Not released
Passport (Pakistan) — Not released
Columbia College records — Not released
Columbia thesis — Not released
Harvard College records — Not released
Harvard Law Review articles — None (maybe 1, unsigned?)
Baptism certificate — None
Medical records — Not released
Illinois State Senate records — None
Illinois State Senate schedule — Lost
Law practice client list — Not released
University of Chicago scholarly articles — Lost


22 posted on 07/29/2009 11:59:58 AM PDT by Stand Watch Listen
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To: mnehring
Although the media routinely describe Obama as having been a college "professor," he was no such thing; he wasn't much more than a glorified teaching assistant. He was not a full professor, nor an associate professor, nor an assistant professor - he was a lecturer, and usually only a part-time lecturer.

The story also says that "professors" usually teach the core courses, but that's not my experience. The core courses (lower level, mandatory courses) are usually taught by T.A.'s, lecturers, and assistant professors. The full professors and associate professors concentrate on research and upper-level courses.

Now, if it were Sarah Palin claiming to have been a professor, and if she had the same background as Obama, the press would have torn her to shreds.
23 posted on 07/29/2009 12:00:55 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle ("Above all, shake your bum at Burton.")
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To: Bitsy

little barry soetoro on his way to occidental college as a foreign student........all the way from jakarta via honolulu


24 posted on 07/29/2009 12:01:26 PM PDT by MissDairyGoodnessVT ("Economy is the method by which we prepare today to afford the improvements of tomorrow"C.Coolidge)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
"Bush, Kerry, and Gore released full medical and educational records. I think McCain did as well. Why didn’t the Kenyan?"

Maybe the same reason that Clinton never releaased his.

25 posted on 07/29/2009 12:02:05 PM PDT by LADY J (Change your thoughts and you change your world. - Norman Vincent Peale)
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To: Stand Watch Listen

Hey I just noticed one I missed “Besuki School application”. What was that?


26 posted on 07/29/2009 12:02:38 PM PDT by bvw
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To: bvw

The title of professor ,associate professor, guest lecturer
are distinct titles.

A lawyer above all should be sensitive to language and it’s
usage.

Zer0 is a fraud.


27 posted on 07/29/2009 12:03:25 PM PDT by ChiMark
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To: mnehring

Once a liar, always a liar.


28 posted on 07/29/2009 12:03:38 PM PDT by bgill (The evidence simply does not support the official position of the Obama administration)
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To: bvw
Colleges are very picky about the term professor. Usually it is for a tenure track, full time employee of the college or university. Obama was just an instructor, but "professor" sounds better so professor he became.
29 posted on 07/29/2009 12:03:54 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (As a child Obama was rejected from Little League because of lack of a birth certificate.)
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To: mnehring

Oh, c’mon now. Those of us who think Barry lied about his past are part of the “tinfoil-wearing conspiracy nuts”.

Even to some on this forum.

Just trust Barry. All is well. Soylent Green is not people.


30 posted on 07/29/2009 12:04:09 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: mnehring

Stop with the facts. They are interrupting the feel-good euphoric highs associated with the enlightened One. All factual criticism of Obama is nothing more than racist propaganda! Now receive your ‘Change’ in peace and harmony!


31 posted on 07/29/2009 12:04:19 PM PDT by tflabo (Truth or Tyranny)
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To: Steve_Seattle

U of C wrote “he served as a professor”. Not “served as a TA”, not “served as a lecturer”. Its like a man in a common law marriage case coming before the property dispute court and claiming “yeah, she served as my wife”.

To which the the judge would gavel down and intone “Married. Fifty-fifty. Next case!”.


32 posted on 07/29/2009 12:06:55 PM PDT by bvw
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To: Stand Watch Listen
You can bet that if Obama had been the genius scholar he's portrayed as, his college records would have been released long ago. That narcissist would not hide a Cum Laude or Magna Cum Laude or Summa Cum Laude portfolio. I'm guessing he was a mediocre C/C+ student.

The more I see of him, the less he seems like a policy wonk or a fact man; he seems to be an idealogue, disinterested in details and even in facts. He seems intellectually lazy, endlessy repeating the slogans and catch-phrases and little bits of bigotry that make him seem "intellectual" to an uncritical media.
33 posted on 07/29/2009 12:07:29 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle ("Above all, shake your bum at Burton.")
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To: KarlInOhio

Colleges today are full of picayune idiots in every position of authority. How can they even be called colleges! Note that the UNIVERSITY (”college” is SO declassé) itself used the word “professor”.


34 posted on 07/29/2009 12:10:33 PM PDT by bvw
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To: Ax
You called for Dr. Chicago? :)


35 posted on 07/29/2009 12:11:38 PM PDT by SparkyBass
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To: ChiMark

Obama is a fraud. Someday he picture will be in the F section of the dictionary — an example of “fraud”, “failure”, “fruitloops”.


36 posted on 07/29/2009 12:12:31 PM PDT by bvw
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To: RWGinger
You know he was 5th from the bottom at the USNA.

He was in the top 99% of his class!

37 posted on 07/29/2009 12:13:10 PM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: bvw
an example of “fraud”, “failure”, “fruitloops”.

Let's hope we can add "Fired" to that list.

38 posted on 07/29/2009 12:13:52 PM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: Izzy Dunne

Fer sho.


39 posted on 07/29/2009 12:14:28 PM PDT by bvw
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To: bvw
Besuki Elementary School in Menteng, Jakarta

January 1968 Obama was registered as a Muslim at Jakarta's Roman Catholic Franciscus Assisi Primary School under the name Barry Soetoro. He was listed as an Indonesian citizen whose stepfather, listed on school documents as "L Soetoro Ma," worked for the topography department of the Indonesian Army.

After attending the Assisi Primary School, Obama was enrolled "also as a Muslim, according to documents" in the Besuki Primary School, a public school in Jakarta.

Obama spent third and fourth grades at the Besuki School, a public primary school along a leafy, narrow street in the city's diplomatic quarter.

in Obama's autobiography, "Dreams From My Father," he acknowledged studying the Quran and describes the public school as "a Muslim school."

40 posted on 07/29/2009 12:18:17 PM PDT by Stand Watch Listen
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To: Izzy Dunne

Obama’s refusal to release any of his documents that either prove or disprove his eligibility to be President is a double-edged sword. If he were to sue any of us who think he is a commie, marxist, fraud, traitor, America-hater, racist, charlatan, puppet for George Soros, then all of those documents would be discoverable in a court of law. This means that he can be accused by the American people and our websites of every unethical move he makes or has made and he dare not allow himself to come under any court of competent jurisdiction.

I WANT THAT FRAUD OUT OF MY WHITE HOUSE!


41 posted on 07/29/2009 12:18:44 PM PDT by Stayfree (REWARD FOR OBAMA'S BIRTH CERTIFICATE.COM)
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To: mnehring

He is a certifiable Harvard Renaissance man though.
Familiar with the Noble Lie. So he may have been speaking esoterically.
It's not always clear if he understands what he is saying.

42 posted on 07/29/2009 12:21:53 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: Stand Watch Listen

Thank you.


43 posted on 07/29/2009 12:23:50 PM PDT by bvw
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To: mnehring

You don’t help your cause with this. “Professor” is used in a variety of ways. That he was not a full professor (which is what the U of C. statement denies) is meaningless. He was not merely an adjunct, which is the lowest rung. If that’s all he had been, calling him a professor would be misleading. But law schools, or at least U. of C. Law school, in order to attract people who want to maintain a career outside the university while lending some sort of prestige to the law school, have categories between regular tenured faculty and mere sessional or adjunct lecturers. It’s my understanding that Obama was in the middle category and was invited many times to come aboard as a tenure-track faculty member but chose not to.

Now, the invitation to become tenure-track undoubtedly was affirmative-action driven and doesn’t mean he was that all-fired great an academic law teacher. I don’t doubt that the U of C Law school was interested in him because of his race and politics. But to imply that he was marginal at the school is inaccurate. He had a fairly high status position and could have turned it into the full-deal, had he wanted to. Whether he was fully qualified for that, is a different question.


44 posted on 07/29/2009 12:25:58 PM PDT by Houghton M.
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To: mnehring

He was not merely a glorified teaching assistant. That sort of nonsense posted on this thread does not help your cause. It makes the person writing it look like an idiot to anyone who has actually examined Obama’s record at the U. of C. Law School. He could have been a regular tenured professor had he wanted to be. He was not a glorified TA.


45 posted on 07/29/2009 12:28:31 PM PDT by Houghton M.
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To: Houghton M.

The school is the one who made the statement he never “served as a professor”. As it is their institution, they are the ones who are authorized to grant said titles. If you have a problem with the nuanced differences, take it up with Marsha Ferziger Nagorsky, an assistant dean for communications and lecturer in law. The school apparently thought the difference was important enough to release a statement setting the record straight.


46 posted on 07/29/2009 12:32:07 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: Houghton M.

Part-time lecturer sounds pretty close to the lowest rung to me. And I’ll repeat - if he had a great academic record, he’d have released it long ago.


47 posted on 07/29/2009 12:32:43 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle ("Above all, shake your bum at Burton.")
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To: Stand Watch Listen

bump #22


48 posted on 07/29/2009 12:36:37 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: mnehring

Be stupid if you wish. She denied “professor” in the strict sense. At my school students routinely call even adjunct instructors “professor.” To say that he was a glorified TA makes people look like fools. He had a status that was well beyond instructor or adjunct, a status built into business and professional schools like law schools because they want practicing businessmen and attorneys and political activists teaching, not merely as glorified TAs but with faculty rank. They consider this an asset to their program.

I’m sorry, but you will be more credible if you try to learn something about the issue instead of bombastically rejecting what I wrote.

But it’s your choice. I was trying to help you make your case. You obviously would prefer to undermine it. Be a fool.


49 posted on 07/29/2009 12:37:25 PM PDT by Houghton M.
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To: Steve_Seattle
The school also makes a unique point in there statement:

Nagorsky said there is a major distinction between a lecturer and senior lecturer, though neither is a full-time position. She said the status of a senior lecturer is "similar" to the status of a professor and that Obama did teach core courses usually handled only by professors. Obama's appointment was not part of an academic search process, and he did not have any scholarly research obligation.

Translated to me, the underlined part that highlights the difference sounds like he was not hired on as a professor because of his knowledge or any other 'scholarly' designation or knowledge that would happen with a professor, he was just granted a job. It seems to me they are saying here he wouldn't qualify as a professor.

50 posted on 07/29/2009 12:37:49 PM PDT by mnehring
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