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Terri Schiavo Documentary Wins More Awards, Schindler Family Helps Disabled
Life News ^ | 7/29/09 | Steven Ertelt

Posted on 07/29/2009 12:01:24 PM PDT by wagglebee

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"These calls come in from everyday families who are faced with having their loved ones killed simply because they need extra care or have potentially life threatening disabilities," Schindler continued. "Sadly, too many in the medical community are now deciding that some people should die because their 'quality of life' does not meet some standard that is being subjectively established."

It is about to get A LOT worse.

1 posted on 07/29/2009 12:01:25 PM PDT by wagglebee
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2 posted on 07/29/2009 12:02:00 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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bump


3 posted on 07/29/2009 12:02:17 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (We're definitely in the Rise of the Empire era, but is Obama Valorum or Palpatine?)
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4 posted on 07/29/2009 12:02:20 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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New Terri Dailies Theme...

Very appropriate since the left now wants to make euthanasia the norm.


5 posted on 07/29/2009 12:08:29 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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It is about to get A LOT worse.

But then Greer, Felos, and HINO may get what they deserve a lot sooner than expected.

6 posted on 07/29/2009 12:10:33 PM PDT by bgill (The evidence simply does not support the official position of the Obama administration)
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No, they will be exempted (kind of like how nobody seemed to care that Hitler, Goebbels, Mengele, Eichmann, Himmler and Goering weren’t 6 foot, blond, blue eyed “Aryans”).


7 posted on 07/29/2009 12:19:37 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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In 1999, 10.4% of the severely cognitively impaired residents of the United States were starved and dehydrated to death.

In 2000, 11.0% of the severely cognitively impaired residents of the United States were starved and dehydrated to death.

In 2001, 11.4% of the severely cognitively impaired residents of the United States were starved and dehydrated to death.

I haven't found data yet for other years, but I think it's a fair guess that the killings continue to climb.

This doesn't represent a percentage of patients who died (which would be bad enough). It doesn't mean that 11.4% of the patients who died were starved and dehydrated. It means 11.4% of all the people living in the U.S.A. with severe cognitive impairments were killed this way. And it doesn't include the ones who were killed using other methods, such as denial of antibiotics for simple infections, removal of breathing assistance, etc.

The standard used for determining severe cognitive impairment for the purpose of this study is a score of 5 or less on the Mini Mental State Examination (MMSE). Patients in a coma or PVS cannot possibly score 1, much less 5. You've probably seen people in the grocery store with a score of 5 or less. So these killings include a wide range of brain damaged people. I wonder how many thousands of people are living with a score of 5 or less. And for every 1,000 people living with a score of 5 or less in the year 2001, 114 of them were starved and dehydrated to death that year.

All I have before me are the percentages. I'd like to see the corresponding numbers. Or would I?

Following is the breakdown by state for 2001. Notice that Rhode Island tops the list, with just over a third of that population exterminated this way. That might have something to do with the fact that RI has appointed the pro-euthanasia group Choice in Dying the official State agency in charge of informing the public about “end-of-life choices.” They supply forms for “living wills” and “assist” the public in filling out those forms. This is what happens when you put the fox in charge of the henhouse.

Believe it or not, Florida and Texas are both below the national average. Every state is on the list. Georgia is at the bottom of the list, exterminating only 1.30% this way.

RI - 33.80%
OR - 32.50%
MI - 28.30%
MT - 28.00%
WI - 27.20%
CA - 23.40%
UT - 23.40%
AZ - 20.90%
PA - 17.40%
MN - 17.20%
AK - 17.10%
CT - 15.40%
WY - 14.90%
MD - 14.60%
NM - 14.20%
SD - 14.10%
WA - 13.20%
OH - 12.90%
ID - 12.30%
IA - 12.10%
MO - 11.90%
National Average - 11.4%
VT - 11.20%
HI - 11.10%
DE - 10.80%
ND - 10.80%
MA - 9.90%
IN - 9.70%
ME - 9.20%
NH - 8.70%
NY - 8.50%
NE - 7.70%
CO - 7.20%
AL - 7.10%
TX - 7.10%
IL - 6.70%
WV - 6.70%
KY - 6.60%
SC - 6.50%
TN - 6.30%
FL - 6.20%
NV - 6.20%
AR - 5.70%
NC - 5.20%
KS - 4.80%
NJ - 4.80%
OK - 4.10%
LA - 3.70%
VA - 3.60%
DC - 3.10%
MS - 3.00%
GA - 1.30%

Facts On Dying ~ This study was funded by The Robert Wood Johnson Foundation, who adamantly opposes the rights of vulnerable people to continue living. So if any trolls show up, complaining that the data is skewed in favor of life, check the facts and get back to me.


8 posted on 07/29/2009 12:38:50 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Damn the naysayers. Full speed ahead. ~ Þ)
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Rhode Island is also the only state in America with an outright Roman Catholic majority, btw.


9 posted on 07/29/2009 12:41:18 PM PDT by Clemenza (Remember our Korean War Veterans)
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That’s ironic.


10 posted on 07/29/2009 12:42:33 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Damn the naysayers. Full speed ahead. ~ Þ)
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To: wagglebee

Jim King, who considered his proudest moment to be when he got legislation enacted which contributed to the torture and murder of Terri Schiavo, died just a few days ago. I sincerely doubt that he chose to be tortured to death like Terri.


11 posted on 07/29/2009 12:46:07 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Damn the naysayers. Full speed ahead. ~ Þ)
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Rhode Island is also the most liberal state in the country and absolute PROOF of the damage that Vatican II and CINO bishops have done.


12 posted on 07/29/2009 12:50:01 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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Bookmarking, w/ ref to Post #8


13 posted on 07/29/2009 1:00:20 PM PDT by Golden Gate
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It was wrong to kill her. [JimRob on Terri Schiavo] - (April 3, 2005)

Short Must-Read.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1377502/posts


14 posted on 07/29/2009 1:15:19 PM PDT by Golden Gate
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Good summary of links / info on Terri - FR page, top section & very bottom:

Future Useless Eater = http://www.freerepublic.com/~futureuselesseater/


15 posted on 07/29/2009 1:55:19 PM PDT by Golden Gate
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  Man with cowboy hat, reading front page of Tampa newspaper, Schiavo Showdown - The image “http://www.terrisfight.org/images/TerrisfightFlashImages6.jpg” cannot be displayed, because it contains errors.
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Terri Schindler Schiavo Foundation
http://www.terrisfight.org/

16 posted on 07/29/2009 2:18:22 PM PDT by Golden Gate
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Terri’s FR page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~terri/


17 posted on 07/29/2009 2:22:15 PM PDT by Golden Gate
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I don’t recall ever seeing this before, thanks for posting it.


18 posted on 07/29/2009 4:15:53 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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Ping to Golden Gate's fantastic posts (14-17).


19 posted on 07/29/2009 4:17:08 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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It never ceases to amaze me that Zero has managed to surround himself with advisers who are even creepier than he is.

Thread by presidio9.

Obama’s Science Czar Said a Born Baby ‘Will Ultimately Develop Into a Human Being’

President Obama’s top science adviser said in a book he co-authored in 1973 that a newborn child “will ultimately develop into a human being” if he or she is properly fed and socialized.

“The fetus, given the opportunity to develop properly before birth, and given the essential early socializing experiences and sufficient nourishing food during the crucial early years after birth, will ultimately develop into a human being,” John P. Holdren, director of the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy, wrote in “Human Ecology: Problems and Solutions.”

Holdren co-authored the book with Stanford professors Paul R. Ehrlich and Anne H. Ehrlich. The book was published by W.H. Freeman and Company.

At the time “Human Ecology” was published, Holdren was a senior research fellow at the California Institute of Technology. Paul Ehrlich, currently president of The Center for Conservation Biology at Stanford, is also author of the 1968 bestseller, “The Population Bomb,” a book the Washington Post said “launched the popular movement for zero population growth.”

“Human Ecology: Problems and Solutions” argued that the human race faced dire consequences unless human population growth was stopped.

“Human values and institutions have set mankind on a collision course with the laws of nature,” wrote the Ehrlichs and Holdren. “Human beings cling jealously to their prerogative to reproduce as they please—and they please to make each new generation larger than the last—yet endless multiplication on a finite planet is impossible. Most humans aspire to greater material prosperity, but the number of people that can be supported on Earth if everyone is rich is even smaller than if everyone is poor.”

The specific passage expressing the authors’ view that a baby “will ultimately develop into a human being” is on page 235 in chapter 8 of the book, which is titled “Population Limitation.” . . .

20 posted on 07/29/2009 4:22:22 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Salvation; Ohioan from Florida; Goodgirlinred; Miss Behave; cyn; AlwaysFree; amdgmary; ...
Judie Brown has written a great column on Zero's plans to kill us all.

Thread by Salvation.

Synchronized Stealth: Obama’s Department of ‘Death with Dignity’ [List of pro-life contacts]

The current debate over health care is one of those scenarios that might play well in a science-fiction thriller, but must not be allowed to play out on the backs and over the dead bodies of the uninformed. The intent to create a nationalized health-care system appears more and more like a behind-the-scenes project based on government control over who lives and who dies. I might even suggest that nationalized health care’s real purpose is to keep feeding the vultures who prey off the culture of death, instead of keeping Americans healthy.

The problem is what is not occurring right now in the public debate. In other words, what remains unstated has many of us extremely concerned. Obama’s so-called health-care plan, if implemented, could be the most egregious assault on the dignity of the human person since the Supreme Court’s dreadful Roe v. Wade and Doe v. Bolton decisions of 1973. Here are a few specifics. . .

21 posted on 07/29/2009 4:25:56 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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Norma McCorvey has exhibited incredible courage over these past few years.

Thread by markomalley.

‘Jane Roe’ To Nancy Pelosi: 'Don’t Put Abortion in Heath-Care Reform Bill’

(CNSNews.com) - Norma McCorvey, the “Jane Roe” of the infamous 1973 Roe v. Wade decision that legalized abortion on demand in the United States, protested the health-care reform bill on Capitol Hill Tuesday because it proposes federal funding for abortions.

“No abortion is to be paid for with tax-funded dollars,” McCorvey, now a pro-life activist, told CNSNews.com after the protest. “It’s against the laws of God. Roe versus Wade is a bad law and I’m sorry that I ever did it.”

McCorvey, joined dozens of other protestors in the office of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) to speak out against the legislation, which currently involves using taxpayer dollars to fund abortions.

Pelosi was not in her office at the designated time of the protest, but her staff was prepared to meet the protestors when they arrived.

Also among the protestors was Olga Fairfax of National Right to Life and Human Life International. Fairfax said she sees the pro-life movement as her war against the modern-day Holocaust.

“I’ve been in this war 35 years,” Fairfax told CNSNews.com.

“The Jews lost probably 5 or 6 million (in the Holocaust during World War II)--horrid--even one Jew is too many killed,” she said. “But I can’t reverse history. I can’t go back 60 years, but today I can stop some abortions.” . . .

22 posted on 07/29/2009 4:30:20 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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Zero seems to believe that the disabled have the right to life, but should still be killed.

Thread by me.

New United Nation's Treaty Obama Favors Targets Disabled Unborn With Abortion

President Barack Obama’s much-anticipated pro-United Nations treaty campaign has been launched with a White House ceremony declaring support for the United Nations Convention on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities.

But despite the title and language of the treaty, including the affirmation of a “right to life,” it is doubtful whether the treaty would protect the rights of unborn children with disabilities, such as those with Down syndrome.

Through its affirmation of “sexual and reproductive health"-a phrase that clearly means access to abortion and abortion rights-the treaty also supports abortion, even though it has been estimated that over 90 percent of pregnancies in the United States with a diagnosis of Down syndrome are terminated through abortion.

This controversial aspect of the seemingly non-controversial treaty has been completely ignored in the many stories hailing Obama’s endorsement of the “legally binding” measure. However, it explains why a pro-abortion administration would support such a measure. This treaty, for the first time in history, establishes an international right to abortion.

On the left, the George Soros-funded Human Rights Watch called it “the first international human rights treaty signed by the United States in nearly a decade” and identified “several other important outstanding treaties” that should be signed and/or ratified, including the Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination against Women (CEDAW) and the Convention on the Rights of the Child (CRC). . .


23 posted on 07/29/2009 4:34:02 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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Thanks for the ping!


24 posted on 07/29/2009 8:32:34 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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“‘Jane Roe’ To Nancy Pelosi: ‘Don’t Put Abortion in Health-Care Reform Bill’
Wednesday, July 29, 2009
By Marie Magleby

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“No abortion is to be paid for with tax-funded dollars,” McCorvey, now a pro-life activist, told CNSNews.com after the protest. “It’s against the laws of God. Roe versus Wade is a bad law and I’m sorry that I ever did it.”

McCorvey, joined dozens of other protestors in the office of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) to speak out against the legislation, which currently involves using taxpayer dollars to fund abortions”

excerpt
http://www.cnsnews.com/public/content/article.aspx?RsrcID=51707

I wish I could have been there to join McCorvey.


25 posted on 07/30/2009 2:01:08 AM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: wagglebee

Terri’s FR page - / (check FR mail)


26 posted on 07/30/2009 11:31:47 AM PDT by Golden Gate
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Even the Nazis had the sense not to publicize their death camps.

Thread by Man50D.

House Health-Care Bill Would Establish 'Medical Homes' for the Elderly and Disabled

The House health-care reform bill proposes to decrease hospital visits by establishing a “medical home pilot program” for elderly and disabled Americans.

Such a medical home would not require a physician to be on the staff, and therefore could be run solely by nurse practitioners and physician assistants. Medical homes also would practice “evidence-based” medicine, which advocates only the use of medical treatments that are supported by effectiveness research.

But physicians’ groups say the legislation could lead to restrictions on which treatments may be used for certain conditions, despite the fact that some patients might require a unique or unconventional approach. It also may lead to dumping Medicare/Medicaid patients in facilities that are not required to have physicians on staff. . .

27 posted on 07/31/2009 5:07:58 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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"Brave New World" is now reality.

Thread by GonzoII.

Teaching Kids to Kill Embryos - A New Generation of Stem Cell Workers

“No government ever voluntarily reduces itself in size. Government programs, once launched, never disappear. Actually, a government bureau is the nearest thing to eternal life we'll ever see on this earth!” —President Ronald Reagan

Life Legal Defense Foundation continues to watchdog the California Institute for Regenerative Medicine and in doing so found the latest attempt to promulgate embryonic stem cell research by “educating” children.

Let us introduce you to Senate Bill 471. Titled “The California Stem Cell and Biotechnology Education and Workforce Development Act of 2009,” the purpose of SB 471 is purportedly to train up a new generation of biotechnology workers. It promotes stronger links among industry sectors, the regenerative medicine institute, and California public schools. . .

28 posted on 07/31/2009 5:12:20 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

Bump for Terri


29 posted on 07/31/2009 5:27:23 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: rhema; Ohioan from Florida; Goodgirlinred; Miss Behave; cyn; AlwaysFree; amdgmary; angelwings49; ...
A doctor discusses the CORRECT way to deal with disabled unborn babies.

Thread by rhema.

A grief conserved: Perinatal hospice offers alternative to trauma of aborting disabled child

"Something's wrong with this baby," my ultrasound technician told me. She had just scanned Mrs. Jones (a fictitious name) at 20 weeks and went on to describe her findings, findings that surely meant little chance of survival for that baby. As I later spoke with Mrs. Jones to relay the findings, she wept. I arranged an appointment with a maternal-fetal medicine (MFM) specialist.

The next day I received an urgent call from my patient. Through more tears, she described her visit in which the MFM doctor confirmed the grim prognosis. The baby would die, probably within a week or two. The MFM insisted on scheduling her for an abortion in three days. "Do I have to have an abortion?" she asked. I promised to call the MFM and assured her she did not have to abort.

When I called the MFM specialist, she immediately rattled off the severe abnormalities found, the fetus' incompatibility with life, and the scheduling of an abortion. I interrupted: "If the baby is going to die anyway, why do you want to kill it before it dies a natural death?" There was silence on the other end. I went on to explain that the parents would not have to deal with the guilt of killing their child if it died naturally. There was a pause, then, "I hadn't thought of that," she said.

So much for nondirective counseling, as it is called. Sadly, I've had several similar experiences in my 27 years of practice.

My patient's baby did die in utero about two weeks later. She labored and delivered a stillborn baby with all the grief and pain associated with it. She was thankful, however, for the love and support of family and friends during the process and the knowledge that she had not contributed to her baby's death.

When a pregnant woman clearly understands the primary purpose of genetic testing—abortion of a handicapped baby—a majority decline testing in my experience and almost all pro-life women decline testing. Nearly every problem now identified by prenatal diagnosis has no treatment. David Grimes, a well-known OB/GYN, professor at the University of North Carolina School of Medicine, and a strong abortion advocate, spoke truth in a rare moment of public clarity when he said prenatal diagnosis would disappear if abortion were not available.

But what happens when a routine 20-week ultrasound shows a baby with a profound abnormality, possibly an abnormality that will certainly result in the death of the baby prior to or shortly after birth? Or when a genetic test is done and shows similar results and the patient then decides against abortion? What then?

Enter perinatal hospice, the brain child of Byron Calhoun, a pro-life maternal-fetal medicine specialist.

Perinatal hospice honors life. The woman carrying the disabled child receives extensive counseling and birth preparation involving the combined efforts of MFM specialists, OB/GYN doctors, neonatologists, anesthesia services, chaplains, pastors, social workers, labor and delivery nurses, and neonatal nurses. She carries the pregnancy to its natural conclusion. She and her husband are allowed to grieve and prepare for the short time God may grant them with their child while their baby lives inside or outside the womb. Such a process obviates the grief caused by elective abortion, killing the child before it could be born.

Doctors and nurses often withdraw from hopeless patients, and surely a baby with a lethal anomaly is a hopeless patient. Add to that, as my example above illustrates, the concept of natural death for babies with lethal anomalies perplexes those who advocate abortion and prenatal eugenics. For them, not terminating a hopeless pregnancy is stupid.

Perinatal hospice, on the other hand, allows natural grief and separation with the support of the medical community. Calhoun says parental responses have been overwhelmingly positive. "These parents are allowed the bittersweetness of their child's birth and too-soon departure. Grief lessens as time passes and the parents rest secure in the knowledge that they shared in their baby's life and treated the child with the same dignity as a terminally-ill adult."

Even those mystified by a patient choosing life have recognized the value of Calhoun's idea, as perinatal hospice programs now dot the nation. But this mystery is no mystery to us. As Job 1:21 states, "Naked I came from my mother's womb, and naked shall I return. The Lord gave, and the Lord has taken away; blessed be the name of the Lord."

—Matt Anderson is a practicing OB/GYN in Minnesota and blogs regularly at mdviews.wordpress.com.

30 posted on 07/31/2009 5:44:38 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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The euthanizers are making a big push to start killing more British.

Two threads by me.

UK Euthanasia Activist Dares Police to Arrest Him

LONDON, July 28, 2009 (LifeSiteNews.com) - Euthanasia activist and disgraced medical practitioner, Michael Irwin, 77, has issued an open letter to local police challenging them to arrest him for his involvement in the February 2007 assisted suicide of 58-year-old Raymond Cutkelvin. He has said he wants to be a "martyr" on behalf of those U.K. residents who help their relatives commit suicide and who could thereby face up to 14 years in jail.

According to Irwin, at least 115 Britons have sought assisted suicide through the group called Dignitas in Zurich in the last 10 years.

On his trip, Cutkelvin was accompanied by his homosexual partner Alan Cutkelvin Rees, Irwin, a close friend, and a relative. Cutkelvin suffered from an inoperable tumor of the pancreas.

Irwin has also admitted to helping Cutkelvin with payment for his suicide by sending £1500 to Dignitas on his behalf.

According to the U.K.'s 1961 Suicide Act, it is illegal to "aid, abet, counsel or procure the suicide of another." To violate the law carries a penalty of up to 14 years in prison. The law applies to helping someone go abroad for suicide as well, though it has hardly been enforced against those travelling to Zurich. According to Irwin, while some have been questioned upon their return to the U.K., previously only one person had been arrested, in 2006. . .

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Britain's Law Lords Rule in Favor of Assisted Suicide Seeker

LONDON, July 31, 2009 (LifeSiteNews.com) - In a case that is being hailed as a victory for proponents of assisted suicide, Britain's Law Lords have ruled that the public prosecutors must "clarify" current law on the issue. The House of Lords judicial committee ruled yesterday that the Director of Public Prosecutions (DPP) for England and Wales must issue "guidance" on when and in what circumstances the law making it a criminal offense to assist suicide will be prosecuted.

The DPP Keir Starmer has responded that his office will be publishing a new policy by the end of September. Starmer also announced a public consultation to gauge public opinion on the issue.

The case against the DPP was brought by Debbie Purdy, a woman with multiple sclerosis who wants the courts to guarantee that her husband would not be prosecuted were he to help her commit suicide overseas. Despite the law making assisting suicide a criminal offense liable to 14 years in prison, the DPP's office had repeatedly asserted that relatives accompanying their loved ones to the Swiss suicide facility Dignitas would not be prosecuted.

In June this year, Sir Ken Macdonald, the former Director of Public Prosecutions for England and Wales, had confirmed his office did not intend to prosecute in such cases, but warned against making assisted suicide legal. Macdonald reaffirmed his position that there is "no public interest" in such prosecutions. . .

31 posted on 07/31/2009 5:50:28 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Ohioan from Florida; Goodgirlinred; Miss Behave; cyn; AlwaysFree; amdgmary; angelwings49; ...
"Reproductive health" now includes killing the woman.

Thread by me.

Abortion Drug Has Killed 29 Women, European Maker Tells Italy's Government

Rome, Italy (LifeNews.com) -- The world may never know how many thousands of women have been injured, or even killed, by the dangerous RU 486 abortion drug. The best worldwide guess is that 13 women have been killed as a result of the mifepristone abortion pill, but the maker of the drug in Europe is saying 29 women have died.

If the information given to the Italian Pharmaceuticals Agency (AIFA) by European abortion drug maker Exelgyn is correct, then twice as many women have died from the abortion drug globally than the pro-life community has thought.

Currently, eight women have died from using the RU 486 abortion drug in the United States, two in England, and one each in Canada, Sweden and France.

But, according to a report by the Italian news agency ASCA, Exelgyn provided the figure of 29 women dying from the abortion pill to the Italy Ministry of Health, which, in turn, gave the information to the AIFA drug regulatory agency. . .

32 posted on 07/31/2009 5:56:43 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Saundra Duffy

Thanks Saundra!


33 posted on 07/31/2009 5:57:45 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

Obama has a target on every person, every business, every everything. He’s the Manchurian president and they desire to fundamentally change the United States. Wake up Amerika and face that there’s a communist-marxist clunker in office.


34 posted on 07/31/2009 8:45:22 PM PDT by floriduh voter (Obama's Health Care Plan Puts the "you" in euthanasia.)
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To: wagglebee

The disabled need a refuge. At present, every place that takes Medicaid and Medicare and private insurance always hands off to Medicaid is rationing care already. Unfortunately, whether the patient wants hospice or not, they come bearing gifts of beds and oxygen tanks but they take the things away too soon causing suffering and horror even if they can’t do a complete kill.


35 posted on 07/31/2009 8:48:44 PM PDT by floriduh voter (Obama's Health Care Plan Puts the "you" in euthanasia.)
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To: bgill; BykrBayb; wagglebee
DEVELOPING NEWS: Bishop Lynch who was against Terri has recently had colon surgery. Sen. Jim King just died suddenly. Lynch seemed to be more at east with the scientologists than with the Christians who were trying to help Terri.

Lynch wouldn't pray for Terri cuz his attorneys were/are progressives involved with the downtown Clearwater good old boys in the Clwtr Bar Assn.

36 posted on 07/31/2009 8:53:36 PM PDT by floriduh voter (Obama's Health Care Plan Puts the "you" in euthanasia.)
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To: BykrBayb

Robert Woods Johnson leads straight to George Soros. They are all euthanazi’s.


37 posted on 07/31/2009 8:54:44 PM PDT by floriduh voter (Obama's Health Care Plan Puts the "you" in euthanasia.)
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To: wagglebee

Per Obama, imo, not only are we “not a Christian nation”, I believe he’s godless. His advisors are mad scientists and policy wonks. They appear to be godless too.


38 posted on 07/31/2009 8:56:54 PM PDT by floriduh voter (Obama's Health Care Plan Puts the "you" in euthanasia.)
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To: wagglebee

Thanks for the ping!


39 posted on 07/31/2009 9:06:54 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: wagglebee

Utterly baffling!

I’ve heard said that old people in Italy cry when they
see babies because there are so few.


40 posted on 08/01/2009 10:44:09 AM PDT by Lesforlife
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To: Lesforlife

ping


41 posted on 08/01/2009 10:48:40 AM PDT by GoreNoMore
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To: floriduh voter

Isn’t Soros the man behind Obama’s curtain?


42 posted on 08/01/2009 11:18:55 AM PDT by Lesforlife
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To: Lesforlife
Isn’t Soros the man behind Obama’s curtain?

I don't think so.

Whoever is pulling the strings is someone who the Clintons are TERRIFIED of or they would have destroyed Obama two years ago and the Clintons aren't scared of Soros.

43 posted on 08/02/2009 12:41:39 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Kaslin; Ohioan from Florida; Goodgirlinred; Miss Behave; cyn; AlwaysFree; amdgmary; angelwings49; ..
Bobby Schindler has written an excellent editorial on Zero's deathcare plan.

Thread by Kaslin.

Michael Steele: Right on Rationing, Wrong on Reasoning

Recently in a Washington Times radio interview, RNC Chairman Michael Steele was expressing his concerns regarding health care reform. He commented that the GOP’s handling of my sister Terri Schiavo is an example of what he fears, stating, “It is inserting itself into the very fabric of the decisions that you make, have to make every single day. It’ll make the Terri Schiavo case look like a walk in the park.”

I understand the point that Michael Steele was trying to make. He was using Terri as an example of what it would mean if the government was to get involved in the decisions of healthcare. However, not only was it a badly chosen comparison, but as a proclaimed pro-lifer, Mr. Steele should be ardently supportive of the actions taken by Congress—Democrats and Republicans—in their attempt to save Terri’s Life.

Perhaps Mr. Steele has fallen victim, along with so many others, to the same media spin that implies Congress was intruding on a “private” matter, rather than applauding them for stepping in to protect a disabled woman who was in the very process of being dehydrated to death.

The act by Congress granted Terri a federal and civil rights claim to be heard in federal court. In fact, these are the same rights we give to those on death row—who die far less brutal and painful deaths. If Ted Bundy or Scott Peterson had a guaranteed federal court review after their cases have been gone through the state courts, then why shouldn’t an innocent disabled woman like Terri be given that same chance?

That is what I find so ironic about Mr. Steele’s remarks and his concern regarding a government-controlled health care system. What happened to Terri is a perfect example of what he and Republicans are now trying to prevent from happening and what so many health care experts are warning us will happen if President Obama gets his way and establishes a system of health care rationing that would inevitable lead to countless premature deaths. . .

44 posted on 08/02/2009 12:44:25 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Ohioan from Florida; Goodgirlinred; Miss Behave; cyn; AlwaysFree; amdgmary; angelwings49; ...
I have posted two threads from Wesley J. Smith's blog about Zero's deathcare plan.

What Does Ezekiel Emanuel Really Believe About Rationing? Age, Maybe. Quality of Life, Yes

have been doing a little reading about Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel, the head bioethicist at the NIH and brother of the president’s chief of staff. He is a supporter of health care rationing, which is relevant to the current health care debate. In a Lancet article earlier this year, he suggested that age be a proper method of allocating scarce resources, and indeed, stated that age based allocation is not invidious discrimination. . .

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Obamacare: Example of Why Some Fear “Counseling” About End-of-Life Care Could Become “Persuasion”

The Medicare “mandatory counseling” controversy in the Obamacare debate laid bare a realistic fear that compensated counseling under Medicare could easily become subtle (or not so subtle) persuasion to refuse treatment–particularly since the primary point of the clause is to cut costs.

Here is an example of why I believe that the fear is realistic. The Center for Practical Bioethics has published a “Caring Conversations” workbook, in which intimate issues and details of life, death, and end of life options are raised. Nothing wrong with that, in and of itself, of course. It all depends on how it is done. . .

45 posted on 08/02/2009 12:49:28 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

When she was dying my anger caused a brain aneursym. I spent 34 days in neuro intensive care. I came out of the event with a greater understanding, don’t allow anger to cloud you mental focus.

It was a miracle that I survived much less have no headaches or seizures. I realize that we have the mental focus to fight and win if we get rid of our fears.

My heart goes out to those that fought for her life, but I realize that she is in a much better place than we are and for that she is a peace. It is us that are stuck with the useless politicians that are leading so many toward destruction.


46 posted on 08/02/2009 12:52:32 PM PDT by GoreNoMore
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To: Ohioan from Florida; Goodgirlinred; Miss Behave; cyn; AlwaysFree; amdgmary; angelwings49; ...
More on the UK's new push to embrace euthanasia.

Thread by me.

Assisted suicide: Whose life is it anyway?

Debbie Purdy was “ecstatic”. It was a strange reaction to the news that it had suddenly become easier to be killed in Zurich. But the real reason for her elation was that the news also meant it might soon become easier to be killed in Britain.

The law lords had just ruled that the director of public prosecutions (DPP) must make it clear under what circumstances he would prosecute somebody for assisting a suicide. It was the law lords’ last ruling before they themselves are killed off and replaced by a Supreme Court.

Multiple sclerosis will kill Purdy, 46, if the Dignitas clinic in Zurich does not do it first. Her argument was that she needed to know whether her husband, Omar Puente, would be prosecuted if he helped her make her last journey. If he would, she said, she would have to go and take the lethal dose of Nembutal soon, well before incapacity prevented her from travelling alone. If he would not, she could safely put it off for years. . .

47 posted on 08/02/2009 12:53:10 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: GoreNoMore

Very true, I’m glad you are doing okay.


48 posted on 08/02/2009 12:55:00 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

I realized that I am one of the most blessed people and I am so thankful for that. I wish everone realized the power of authority they have.

Our power and authority (money) is ours to control, yet we do not use it. We allow others to do as they want and it has become so evident. If we would, we could use those assets to stop this, it may take effort and focus but we could do it without any force.

Life really is that simple, we just make it hard.


49 posted on 08/02/2009 2:13:36 PM PDT by GoreNoMore
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To: GoreNoMore

Excellent post!


50 posted on 08/02/2009 2:14:58 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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