Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Obama's to Blame for the Birther Movement
Fox ^ | 7/29/09 | Tommy De Seno

Posted on 07/29/2009 2:54:54 PM PDT by pissant

Trust but verify.

-- Ronald Reagan

It's good practice to take a person at his word until someone shows you proof he is lying.

Barack Obama says he was born in Hawaii, and since no one has shown any proof he was born in Kenya or elsewhere, it's OK to conclude he was born in Hawaii.

Sure his grammar school records show that he was enrolled as an Indonesian Muslim, but some people will say anything to get their kid in the right school. It doesn't really answer the question.

It's OK though for others not to use my deferential standard and continue to question whether Obama was born in Hawaii. We aren't talking about a 12-year-old qualifying to play Little League here. There is a Constitutional mandate that the President be a natural-born citizen, and if Obama is not one, he certainly will have committed the biggest fraud since the White Sox threw the World Series.

The reason why people still question Obama's citizen status is one-fold: "President Transparency" has refused to release any original documents on the matter. He can end the controversy in a day by releasing original documents, but for some inexplicable reason he refuses, and his love-struck media never asks him why he won't. The media instead spends hell-bent hours on making the Birther movement look like fringy, conspiracy-hungry kooks.

You have to admit though, even if you are a devout Obama-bot, Obama's refusal to release any original documents makes for a newsworthy story by itself.

(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption
KEYWORDS: article2section1; barackobama; bcrepository; bho44; birthcertificate; birthcertifigate; birthers; blame; certifigate; colb; imom; larrysinclairslover; manofmystery; mysteryman; naturalborn; obama; obamanoncitizenissue; obroma
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-5051-100101-116 next last
Since he tells nothing but lies, why should this marxist get the benefit of the doubt about his birth circumstances.
1 posted on 07/29/2009 2:54:54 PM PDT by pissant
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: pissant

He could end it all right now but showing the document and stopping this sillyness.


2 posted on 07/29/2009 2:57:19 PM PDT by ncfool (The GEORGE BUSH revolution has finally arrived in Iran! Where is Obama?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ncfool

But then we would know that he was a muslim or Frank Marshall was his Dad.


3 posted on 07/29/2009 2:58:22 PM PDT by ncfool (The GEORGE BUSH revolution has finally arrived in Iran! Where is Obama?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: ncfool

This is a serious issue, but a bit late to keep dragging it around now. It should have been a possible show stopper to obama getting the white house.


4 posted on 07/29/2009 2:58:39 PM PDT by DonaldC
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: pissant
The words of Mr Transparency himself on the confirmation of Justice Roberts.

"Let me also say that I remain distressed that the White House during this confirmation process, which overall went smoothly, failed to provide critical documents as part of the record that could have provided us with a better basis to make our judgment with respect to the nomination. This White House continues to stymie efforts on the part of the Senate to do its job. I hope with the next nominee who comes up for the Supreme Court that the White House recognizes that in fact it is its duty not just to the Senate but to the American people to make sure we can thoroughly and adequately evaluate the record of every single nominee who comes before us."


5 posted on 07/29/2009 2:59:53 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: pissant
O’Reilly said the issue is closed, he is a natural born citizen. Coulter says we are cranks. Go figure.
6 posted on 07/29/2009 3:00:17 PM PDT by duckman (Jesus I trust in You. Mary take over)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

Comment #7 Removed by Moderator

To: ncfool
"But then we would know that he was a muslim or Frank Marshall was his Dad."

Or that he isn't Barrack Obama at all.

8 posted on 07/29/2009 3:00:35 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: pissant

The pundits on “Hardball” right now have just concluded that the “birther” issue is about race...nothing more. (BARF)


9 posted on 07/29/2009 3:01:12 PM PDT by NMEwithin
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: penelopesire

It still works for me. Maybe its your computer


10 posted on 07/29/2009 3:02:23 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: pissant

This is a great article. I think it’s written in a general enough way so that the folks who don’t follow this issue can understand it. Very mainstream, and very concise. Thank you FOX...


11 posted on 07/29/2009 3:02:51 PM PDT by joejm65
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: NMEwithin

So did the wiffleball crowd have the stones to mention Phil Berg or Alan Keyes when they decided it was about racism?


12 posted on 07/29/2009 3:02:57 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: NMEwithin

That’s a shocker. /s


13 posted on 07/29/2009 3:03:09 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: pissant

Obama: I’m a victim - honestly.


14 posted on 07/29/2009 3:03:24 PM PDT by Red Steel
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: pissant

Very strange. You don’t get the gobblygook half way down the page?


15 posted on 07/29/2009 3:03:49 PM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: penelopesire

Yes, but only a line or two


16 posted on 07/29/2009 3:05:11 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: DonaldC

‘This is a serious issue, but a bit late to keep dragging it around now. It should have been a possible show stopper to obama getting the white house.’

Folks tried like hell to make it a show-stopper before the election, but the MSM would have nothing to do with it. This didn’t grow legs until Dobbs started discussing it a few weeks ago.


17 posted on 07/29/2009 3:05:12 PM PDT by joejm65
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: DonaldC

We can point the finger and blame the Main. News Media for falling in love with Bama and not doing its job. Ratings are more important. What is right takes a back seat.


18 posted on 07/29/2009 3:07:46 PM PDT by FreedBird
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: joejm65
Folks tried like hell to make it a show-stopper before the election, but the MSM would have nothing to do with it.

Even a judge or two said that nothing could be done till after the election.
19 posted on 07/29/2009 3:07:47 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: DonaldC
This is a serious issue, but a bit late to keep dragging it around now.

Yeah, your right....the Constitution is just an old document, it doesn't matter anymore either

20 posted on 07/29/2009 3:08:20 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Move over NetZero - Obama's in the house!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: pissant

Actually, as I have read on this forum...the birther movement started with the elitist liberals questioning the
‘real mother’ of the Palin baby Trig


21 posted on 07/29/2009 3:09:25 PM PDT by Stand Watch Listen
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: duckman

We are going to keep the heat on and we are displaying positive results.


22 posted on 07/29/2009 3:09:46 PM PDT by real_patriotic_american
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: pissant
Who is Barrack Obama??

Original birth certificate — Not released
Obama/Dunham marriage license — Not released
Soetoro/Dunham marriage license — Not released
Soetoro adoption records — Not released
Besuki School application — Released
Punahou School records — Not released
Selective Service Registration — Released and under suspicion
Occidental College records — Not released
Passport (Pakistan) — Not released
Columbia College records — Not released
Columbia thesis — Not released
Harvard College records — Not released
Harvard Law Review articles — None (maybe 1, unsigned?)
Baptism certificate — None
Medical records — Not released
Illinois State Senate records — None
Illinois State Senate schedule — Lost
Law practice client list — Not released
University of Chicago scholarly articles — Lost


23 posted on 07/29/2009 3:09:58 PM PDT by Stand Watch Listen
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: penelopesire
Very strange. You don’t get the gobblygook half way down the page?

I do. LOTS of it.

24 posted on 07/29/2009 3:10:04 PM PDT by TChris (There is no freedom without the possibility of failure.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: penelopesire; pissant
Noope, I got the same thing:

The newspaper announcements cut against the Birthers, but they are hearsay documents and don't answer the citizen question any more than his grammar school records prove he is a Muslim. The original Birth Certificate will end it all. School Records: The Birthers believe that Obama's records from college and graduate school will show he matriculated as a foreign born student. This is easy ÃÆ’Æ’Æ’ÃÆ’†’ÃÆ’Æ’ÃÃÃ

25 posted on 07/29/2009 3:10:21 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Move over NetZero - Obama's in the house!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: penelopesire; pissant

The weird type is not in the original article from Tommy De Seno’s website.

See here

http://justifiedright.typepad.com/justified_right/2009/07/the-birther-movement-is-obamas-fault.html


26 posted on 07/29/2009 3:10:26 PM PDT by Sparko
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: penelopesire

Obama’s roots are Muslim regardless of what he tells the American people.


27 posted on 07/29/2009 3:12:18 PM PDT by real_patriotic_american
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: pissant

Why does the FOX article look like this on my computer?

School Records: The Birthers believe that Obama’s records from college and graduate school will show he matriculated as a foreign born student. This is easy ÃÆ’Æ’Æ’ÃÆ’†’ÃÆ’Æ’†ÃÆ’¢â‚¬â„¢ÃÆ’Æ’Æ’ÃÆ’¢â‚¬ ÃÆ’Æ’¢ÃÆ’¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ’¢â€žÂ¢ÃÆ’Æ’Æ’ÃÆ’†’ÃÆ’Æ’¢ÃÆ’¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ’…¡ÃÆ’Æ’Æ’ÃÆ’¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ’Æ’‚ÃÆ’‚¢ÃÆ’Æ’Æ’ÃÆ’†’ÃÆ’Æ’†ÃÆ’¢â‚¬â„¢ÃÆ’Æ’Æ’ÃÆ’¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ’Æ’‚ÃÆ’‚¢ÃÆ’Æ’Æ’ÃÆ’†’ÃÆ’Æ’‚ÃÆ’‚¢ÃÆ’Æ’Æ’ÃÆ’‚¢ÃÆ’Æ’¢ÃÆ’¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ’…¡ÃÆ’Æ’‚ÃÆ’‚¬ÃÆ’Æ’Æ’ÃÆ’¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ’Æ’‚ÃÆ’‚¡ÃÆ’Æ’Æ’ÃÆ’†’ÃÆ’Æ’¢ÃÆ’¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ’…¡ÃÆ’Æ’Æ’ÃÆ’¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ’Æ’‚ÃÆ’‚¬ÃÆ’Æ’Æ’ÃÆ’†’ÃÆ’Æ’†ÃÆ’¢â‚¬â„¢ÃÆ’Æ’Æ’ÃÆ’¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ’Æ’‚ÃÆ’‚¢ÃÆ’Æ’Æ’ÃÆ’†’ÃÆ’Æ’‚ÃÆ’â€ÃÃ


28 posted on 07/29/2009 3:12:36 PM PDT by cycle of discernment
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: pissant; Stand Watch Listen
ADDEDUM:
...the birther movement started with the elitist liberals questioning the ‘real mother’ of the Palin baby Trig in Aug 08, Sep 08, Oct 08, Nov 08, Dec 08, Jan 09, Feb09, Mar 09, Apr 09, May 09, June 09, Jul 09.

29 posted on 07/29/2009 3:13:14 PM PDT by Stand Watch Listen
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 21 | View Replies]

To: pissant; penelopesire

I get the garbage on IE8 (fully patched) and Chrome .. have reloaded the page a few times to (possibly) get it from another FOX server .. it appears to be the source document.


30 posted on 07/29/2009 3:13:58 PM PDT by Neidermeyer
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: pissant

Reagan’s fault.


31 posted on 07/29/2009 3:14:09 PM PDT by smokingfrog (No man's life, liberty or property is safe while the legislature is in session. I AM JIM THOMPSON)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: penelopesire

my page is screwed up too. Too bad...I wanted to read the whole story.


32 posted on 07/29/2009 3:14:26 PM PDT by spacejunkie01
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: cycle of discernment

Yikes.


33 posted on 07/29/2009 3:14:42 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 28 | View Replies]

To: real_patriotic_american

Obama’s refusal to release any of his documents that either prove or disprove his eligibility to be President is a double-edged sword. If he were to sue any of us who think he is a commie, marxist, fraud, traitor, America-hater, racist, charlatan, puppet for George Soros, then all of those documents would be discoverable in a court of law. This means that he can be accused by the American people and our websites of every unethical move he makes or has made and he dare not allow himself to come under any court of competent jurisdiction.

I WANT THAT FRAUD OUT OF MY WHITE HOUSE!


34 posted on 07/29/2009 3:15:21 PM PDT by Stayfree (REWARD FOR OBAMA'S BIRTH CERTIFICATE.COM)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: Neidermeyer

Thanks. I was praying it wasn’t the brownshirts in my computer...lol


35 posted on 07/29/2009 3:16:27 PM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 30 | View Replies]

To: cripplecreek

Nope...not a word.


36 posted on 07/29/2009 3:17:42 PM PDT by NMEwithin
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: Sparko; spacejunkie01

Thanks for the link!

http://justifiedright.typepad.com/justified_right/2009/07/the-birther-movement-is-obamas-fault.html


37 posted on 07/29/2009 3:17:55 PM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 26 | View Replies]

To: spacejunkie01

Go to the link at #26


38 posted on 07/29/2009 3:18:10 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Move over NetZero - Obama's in the house!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 32 | View Replies]

To: pissant
This has gone main-stream, big time.

NOW can we call the INS?!?

; D

39 posted on 07/29/2009 3:19:03 PM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Stayfree

There are a number of cases brewing in the courts that look promising. Check this page out:

http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/


40 posted on 07/29/2009 3:19:29 PM PDT by real_patriotic_american
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 34 | View Replies]

To: penelopesire

I scrolled past all the à crap and found that the incomplete sentence completed just fine, as did the rest of the article.

The à crap seems to have inserted itself mid-sentence. Nothing sinister happening here, I don’t think (I hope?)


41 posted on 07/29/2009 3:19:57 PM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: Caipirabob

I think this is more the job for the CIA and FBI.


42 posted on 07/29/2009 3:20:30 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 39 | View Replies]

To: pissant

Trust but verify......can only be used if there is some credibility in the person to start with.....Zero has none. He should have to document everything about himself since he said he would usher in a presidency with transparency! What a liar!


43 posted on 07/29/2009 3:21:00 PM PDT by savagesusie
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: DonaldC

Where were you during the 08 campaign? The BC issue was all over Free Republic. The MSM snuffed it while they stuck their collectivist heads up bambi’s arse.


44 posted on 07/29/2009 3:21:31 PM PDT by HerrBlucher (Squash the fascist insect that preys upon the lives of the people -- FUBO!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: pissant

No, I just went to the link, and I get the same thing. Looks like Fox has been hacked.


45 posted on 07/29/2009 3:21:57 PM PDT by webschooner (“First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.” Mahatma Gandh)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: pissant

Well De Seno is blogger not a Fox staffer (afaik) but it is, nevertheless, nice to see Fox posting an honest Birther article. The truth about Obama’s refusal to release his records is slowly but surely oozing out into the mainstream.


46 posted on 07/29/2009 3:27:09 PM PDT by InterceptPoint
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: pissant

Friend of mine emailed Mark Silva from the Loser Times saying he wanted to make a donation to Obama’s birth hospital in the name of the Doctor that delivered him. Asked Silva if he could point him in the right direction.

Silva’s Response: “The end of a pier.”

What a fine journalistic pile of dogflop this man is.


47 posted on 07/29/2009 3:31:02 PM PDT by NoobRep
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: pissant

I get the same thing . From the school records section on .


48 posted on 07/29/2009 3:32:05 PM PDT by sushiman
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: pissant

Man, I am loving this. Obama is bound to be having some sleepless nights.

Sometime soon, the dam is going to start leaking, and once the first few facts start coming out, it’s going to crumble completely.

I am curious, though. In the UCMJ there are very specific penalties for swearing to a statement, signing a paper that is known to be false.

What would be the penalty for this? If it is true that he is indeed foreign born, not a natural born citizen of the United States, he at the very least has committed perjury by taking the oath of office because he knew from the onset that he was not qualified.

I would LOVE to see him prosecuted and sent to prison for many years.


49 posted on 07/29/2009 3:57:47 PM PDT by Ronin (It will be helpful if Geithner can show us some arithmetic.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Stand Watch Listen; pissant; real_patriotic_american; potlatch; devolve; Fred Nerks; Polarik; ...

50 posted on 07/29/2009 3:59:39 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Kenya)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-5051-100101-116 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson