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Honda Quits Making Motorcycles In USA - More Hope and Change
motocrossactionmag.com ^ | 07-29-2009 | motocrossaction

Posted on 07/29/2009 9:03:20 PM PDT by model B

A motocross publication that I read online is quoting Nasdaq that Honda is closing their Marysville OH plant, which currently produces the VTX and Honda Goldwing motorcycles. Production (up to 75,000 motorcycles/year) is being sourced back to Japan.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: automakers; honda; manufacturing; motorcycles
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And to think i was looking at VTX 1300C as a possible new bike. no more! see the link.
1 posted on 07/29/2009 9:03:20 PM PDT by model B
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To: model B

You know something is up when it is once again cheaper to produce in Japan. The labor and facility costs there are extremely high.


2 posted on 07/29/2009 9:06:20 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: model B

Always told the wife that I would get a Gold Wing over a Harley, but this changes things.


3 posted on 07/29/2009 9:06:59 PM PDT by quikdrw (Life is tough....it's even tougher if you are stupid.)
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To: mnehring

Japanese aren’t going to be forced or fined because they aren’t providing benefits the US govt mandates on employers. Probably will be cheaper back in Japan.

Obama gets a win because that’s less industry in the USA. Gets two victories, maybe three or four. Let’s count them:

1. Obama wins because he de-industrializes us more.
2. Obama wins because more people unemployed.
3. Obama wins because more people will be forced into govt hcare plan.
4. Obama wins because economy is worsened.

You can’t have global govt with the US remaining a superpower.

You cannot be a superpower if you have a robust industrial economy.


4 posted on 07/29/2009 9:12:38 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: mnehring
It's called the cost of oil and transportation for parts.
5 posted on 07/29/2009 9:13:05 PM PDT by org.whodat (Vote: Chuck De Vore in 2012.)
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To: quikdrw

I guess Honda announced their plans to close this plant earlier this year but it’s news to me. definitely sucks for those folks there. they made a good product.


6 posted on 07/29/2009 9:14:10 PM PDT by model B (attitude is a little thing that makes a big difference -- Sir Winston Churchill)
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To: mnehring

The Japenese didn’t elect OBOZO and they can see the Devastation he is reeking on AMERICA! HONDA has made a big statement; “SCREW YOU OBOZO!, We are getting out before You Nationalize the U.S. Asstes like Your Hero, Chavez, did in Venezuala!” :-(


7 posted on 07/29/2009 9:14:41 PM PDT by True Republican Patriot (May GOD Continue to BLESS Our Great Presidenecordst George W. Bush!!)
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To: model B

Blame Obama not Honda !


8 posted on 07/29/2009 9:17:20 PM PDT by sushiman
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To: model B

Japanese companies are in the end - Japanese companies.


9 posted on 07/29/2009 9:17:38 PM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: quikdrw

You can’t blame Honda .


10 posted on 07/29/2009 9:17:50 PM PDT by sushiman
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To: model B

Damn, I am looking at a Shadow for my first bike.


11 posted on 07/29/2009 9:19:08 PM PDT by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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To: model B
0’s ratings will continue to plummet in OHiO!
12 posted on 07/29/2009 9:19:11 PM PDT by 444Flyer (The Lord is a warrior, the Lord is His name.-Exodus 15:3)
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To: model B

It makes perfect sense to flee a sinking ship when the drunken captain has started chopping holes in the lifeboats.


13 posted on 07/29/2009 9:20:45 PM PDT by Dr.Zoidberg (Warning: Sarcasm/humor is always engaged. Failure to recognize this may lead to misunderstandings.)
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To: model B

We know how that hope and change thingy is working in ohio.Gonna be tough for a while.


14 posted on 07/29/2009 9:21:02 PM PDT by imahawk (Life is tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: model B

Not a good sign....that is a lot of jobs lost

But, the days of willy-nilly free trade are over....and you will see more in-sourcing of jobs. In fact, this is now happening in reverse, as some manufacturers are leaving Communist China to return to the US (mainly due to transportation costs)


15 posted on 07/29/2009 9:22:37 PM PDT by UCFRoadWarrior (Know the difference between "conservative" and "republican")
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To: model B
But the recession is over, we are in recovery, the fire is out.... so said this admin......

You mean they were lying?? I mean if you can't trust a bunch of commie-pinko leftwing facist dirty lowdown Democrats then who can you trust?

16 posted on 07/29/2009 9:24:44 PM PDT by GeronL (Guilty of the crime of deviationism.)
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To: sushiman

I don’t blame Honda. And when I do buy another bike, it will probably be a Honda. I have never had an issue with them. My wife wants me to buy a Harley for us both to ride. However, I still think a Gold Wing would be better.


17 posted on 07/29/2009 9:27:59 PM PDT by quikdrw (Life is tough....it's even tougher if you are stupid.)
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To: sushiman

Honda is an exceptionally well run company. I would take a Honda over a Toyo any day. Honda’s hybrid is not as good as the Prius or Ford Fusion/Milan. Ford now owns all of their own hybrid technology and it was created in house.

AFAIK - they cross licensed some stuff with Toyo but now it is all Ford. Ford’s new V6 is also world class.

No way any smart company will built a plant in America now.


18 posted on 07/29/2009 9:29:41 PM PDT by Frantzie (Lou Dobbs - American Hero!)
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To: model B

You used to meet the nicest people on a Honda.


19 posted on 07/29/2009 9:32:18 PM PDT by krb (Obama is a miserable failure.)
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To: model B

You used to meet the nicest people on a Honda.


20 posted on 07/29/2009 9:32:29 PM PDT by krb (Obama is a miserable failure.)
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To: krb

That was the ad campaign that made Honda a household word.

21 posted on 07/29/2009 9:33:55 PM PDT by Richard Kimball (We're all criminals. They just haven't figured out what some of us have done yet.)
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To: model B

I planned to keep my ‘81 ‘wing anyway. 140,000+ miles and still going strong.


22 posted on 07/29/2009 9:35:22 PM PDT by Rannug
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To: model B
Honda knows its about to hit the fan and are getting out before HUSSEIN BARAKA pulls a Chavez and nationalizes their factories.

We are seeing a third world african marxist dictator in the Mugabe style running the USA into the ground.

23 posted on 07/29/2009 9:35:45 PM PDT by Rome2000 (Hussein Baraka Mook Kebba)
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Next thing you know they’ll be growing tea in China.


24 posted on 07/29/2009 9:36:54 PM PDT by KarinG1 (You're just jealous because the voices don't talk to you.)
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To: quikdrw
I think it depends on what you want to do. Personally, I've never been a big fan of long bike trips. I enjoy cross country in a Corvette, although there's not much more luggage space. I like to be able to drink and have a conversation with whomever I'm riding with.

To me, a Gold Wing would probably be better for cross country. For cruising around and fun, I like the Harley. I'll never own another bike, but if I did, I'd take a long look at the Victory motorcycles.

25 posted on 07/29/2009 9:40:01 PM PDT by Richard Kimball (We're all criminals. They just haven't figured out what some of us have done yet.)
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To: model B

Honda announced this last year.

They need the extra capacity to build the Honda Fit car. They’re not able to keep up with demand for the little thing.

Goldwing and VTX sales haven’t been great in the last few years.


26 posted on 07/29/2009 9:41:54 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Frantzie
No way any smart company will built a plant in America now.

Yeppir, and we can blame Zero, but the groundwork has been laid for many years, and much of it by the citizenry.

27 posted on 07/29/2009 9:43:12 PM PDT by Richard Kimball (We're all criminals. They just haven't figured out what some of us have done yet.)
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To: UCFRoadWarrior

I’m all for insourcing back to the US. Where do you get your info on transportation costs? I can tell you that bulk transportation rates stateside have gone in the proverbial toilet.

If true transoceanic shipping rates are going up, that’s a good thing as demand is coming back.


28 posted on 07/29/2009 9:51:14 PM PDT by model B (attitude is a little thing that makes a big difference -- Sir Winston Churchill)
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To: model B

Ohio went blue, became socialist and unfriendly to free enterprise. The cure for socialism is widespread and lengthy unemployment for Democrats. How is that secession movement coming along in Texas?


29 posted on 07/29/2009 9:52:54 PM PDT by gorilla_warrior (Metrosexual hairless RINOs for hopey-changey bipartisan-ness)
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To: model B

so is that part of the “jobs saved” or is it on the “jobs created” list? i get those mixed up sometimes.


30 posted on 07/29/2009 9:53:39 PM PDT by madamemayhem (there are only two places in the world: over here and over there.)
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To: Frantzie

Honda is a well run company because they look forward more than 6 months — unlike GM, Chrysler, our federal government, etc.


31 posted on 07/29/2009 9:57:10 PM PDT by model B (attitude is a little thing that makes a big difference -- Sir Winston Churchill)
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To: Rome2000

“Hussein Baraka”-Does someone have the Mortal Kombat picture of the Baraka character to post?


32 posted on 07/29/2009 9:59:59 PM PDT by getarope (One Big Ass Mistake, America!)
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To: quikdrw

I used to teach English to engineers in the motorcycle planning division at Honda’s Head Office in Aoyama , Tokyo !


33 posted on 07/29/2009 10:03:48 PM PDT by sushiman
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To: model B

“Come With Me, see what I see.”

——Joe Biden (who has no plans to visit Marysville, Ohio)


34 posted on 07/29/2009 10:04:30 PM PDT by cookcounty
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To: gorilla_warrior

all smoke and mirrors. Word is Gov. Perry is running scared because Kay Bailey Hutchinson has her eye on his job — so he’s throwing around the 10th amendment to look tough. But I’m in Houston, so everything has a blue state slant applied to it.


35 posted on 07/29/2009 10:05:58 PM PDT by model B (attitude is a little thing that makes a big difference -- Sir Winston Churchill)
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To: getarope

36 posted on 07/29/2009 10:10:21 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: model B

I hate to be cold, be that’s what Ohio gets for voting for 0bama. They better reverse course and elect John Kasich Governor.

Pensylvania, your next. Rememebr how 0bama promised to bankrupt the coal industry and you still overwhelmingly voted for him? Your time to reap the Hope and Change is coming soon.

I’m in California and have already the price form my state electing the two bitches in Senate and moonbat leftis legislature and RINO Governator. It’ll be interesting to see )bama brings the final death blow to my state. But we deserve it. He got 60% of the vote in CA.

Reap it America. You wanted 0bama, now deal with his Marxisim.


37 posted on 07/29/2009 10:25:51 PM PDT by AmericanSphinx71 (R.I.P. America (1776 - 2009) Thanks for the 233 years of freedom you gave us.)
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To: model B
My Yamaha dealer had $2 million in "floored" inventory that was costing $13,000/month in interest. Sales have been flat. Not enough to cover the interest. Yamaha repossessed all the inventory and pulled the 47 year old dealership. They left the dealer holding the bag with $130,000 in spare parts.

The story gets more grim. Toyota engines are manufactured by Yamaha. Toyota increased ownership in Yamaha to a controlling level. The next thing they did was stop all motorcycle manufacturing in 3 factories and converted them all to Toyota engine factories. The remaining motorcycle factories have been cut to 50% production capacity. Yamaha is using the repossessed inventory to cover where there is sales demand. Many small Yamaha dealers are being wiped out.

I purchased a 2008 Yamaha TW200, XT250 and 2007 Star Roadliner last year. I did so in anticipation of production cuts, scarcity of product and rising prices. The dealer was anxious to deal with flat sales and plenty of inventory that was one or two models years old.

This morning, I traded-in my 2009 Suzuki DR650SE for a 2009 Kawasaki Versys. The Versys better suits the kind of riding I have the time and inclination to do. It helps that my Yamaha dealer still has a full Kawasaki dealership.

38 posted on 07/29/2009 10:39:43 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: model B

Harley Davidson: It’s like a vibrating bed, with wheels!


39 posted on 07/29/2009 10:47:42 PM PDT by TChris (There is no freedom without the possibility of failure.)
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To: AmericanSphinx71

I couldn’t agree more. However it’s a shame that many of us who didn’t vote for Zero will have to suffer along with the idiots who did vote for him. It seems unfair. In fact I’ve never voted for any Democrat in my entire life. So I must suffer along with the idiots. That’s life.


40 posted on 07/29/2009 11:46:52 PM PDT by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough!)
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To: quikdrw
Always told the wife that I would get a Gold Wing over a Harley, but this changes things.

Harley is laying off too. (Change! -- swell, just fricken swell)

41 posted on 07/30/2009 2:08:52 AM PDT by This_far
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To: model B

Today Honda, tomorrow Nissan, Toyota, VW, BMW.....?


42 posted on 07/30/2009 3:11:27 AM PDT by 101voodoo
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To: model B

Today Honda, tomorrow Nissan, Toyota, VW, BMW.....?


43 posted on 07/30/2009 3:15:35 AM PDT by 101voodoo
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To: quikdrw

If you want to ride, buy a Honda. If you want one to work on, buy a Harley. I have owned 2 Hardly Ablesons and currently own a Gold Wing. The HD’s were hangar queens, more time in the shop than on the road.

98% of all Harleys sold are still on the road. The other 2% made it home!...red


44 posted on 07/30/2009 4:15:26 AM PDT by rednek ("Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.")
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To: model B

Us Goldwing owners have know about this for several years. While I am sad to see the Goldwing cease to be an American built product, this has nothing at all to do with Obama.


45 posted on 07/30/2009 4:54:15 AM PDT by Buffalo Bob
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To: model B

I didn’t know Honda was U.A.W./sarc


46 posted on 07/30/2009 5:21:28 AM PDT by smithandwesson76subgun (full auto fun)
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To: model B
I've got a 2003 VTX 1800. I used to have a 95 Shadow ACE 1100. Both are incredible bikes for reliability and "fun factor."

I'm truly sorry to see Honda go. I enjoyed my trips to Marysville for Homecoming in the past. That was where I took my first ride on a 1800. Had to get one after that.

47 posted on 07/30/2009 5:43:01 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: model B

Last person to leave America? Please turn the lights out.


48 posted on 07/30/2009 5:46:20 AM PDT by indylindy (Who is the real Jim Thompson? I am.)
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To: sushiman

I agree. It makes sense from a business perspective.

Any economist specializing in development and the Third World will tell you that political stability, respect for the rule of law, and respect for private property are key ingredients for attracting foreign investment. When Third World countries begin to make headway in that direction, they attract foreign investors and grow their economies (e.g., Chile). When they stray from these basic characteristics, investors either do not invest in that country or flee as soon as they can (e.g., Argentina since 2001).

At this moment, the U.S. is a bad investment. There are potentially big costs around the corner for all companies. Not only do you have the prospects of increased corporate taxes, there are also potential increased costs associated with climate change legislation and this health care boondoggle. Even if ObamaCare doesn’t pass as currently structured, whatever DOES pass is only going to increase costs to companies via new mandates and regulation. Who needs that?

It’s better to move back home, focus on reducing costs during the curret down-turn, and then move operations to a lower-cost country (Chile, South Korea, etc.) where the investment climate is safer once the global economy picks up again.

God help us.


49 posted on 07/30/2009 6:58:23 AM PDT by ForeignDude
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To: AmericanSphinx71
I live in PA. There are still a few houses in the neighborhood with Obama/Biden political signs in their yard.
Also the UMW ENDORSED The Zero during his campaign!

Un-frickin-beleivable!

50 posted on 07/30/2009 7:05:14 AM PDT by 4yearlurker (The ground at Arlington is moving & shaking.)
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