He can't find any more Sarah-bashing threads so he's moved to the B.C.
He's a slippery devil.
Posted on 07/30/2009 1:58:46 PM PDT by steve-b
Man do I get the hate mail when I bring up the subject of Barack Obama's birth certificate. Apparently White House press secretary Robert Gibbs is just as frustrated as I am about this 'birther' crowd. Yesterday he was asked what he thinks it will take to make the birthers go away.
He says, "I almost hate to indulge in such an august setting as the White House -- and I mean this in seriousness -- the White House briefing room, discussing the made-up fictional nonsense of whether the president was born in this country ... If I had some DNA, it wouldn't assuage those that don't believe he was born here. But I have news for them and for all of us: The president was born in Honolulu, Hawaii, the 50th state of the greatest country on the face of the earth. He's a citizen."
Can you believe that we are six months into this presidency and there are still people out there who wake up every morning and worry about the fact that they believe Barack Obama is not a US citizen.
Anonyomus posting.
I am not an alleged republican lawyer. Obama’s mother at (17) seventeen, knocked up by some black man who added her to his flock and herd of brides, legal under Muslim law, (up to four) had one George Obama (Barack’s II, half-brother of Kenya) also, mother unknown, but father Barack I,. And neither am I, David Letterman, trying to make a bad joke out of this travesty, so I hereby ask these questions, for anyone to refute and prove, otherwise or shut your frelling months, blogs, posts and whatever.
1, When did Barry Soetoro change his legal name in Indonesia or wherever, back to Barrack Hessian Obama II? For in Indonesia you can only have one nationality, no matter what, and there is no record of this anywhere yet to be found or surrendered as proof.
A: For this reason alone would make Barry (whatever) an expatriate, where in Indonesia he was listed and enrolled in school, as a Muslim, and according to Muslim law he is a Muslim for life. (http://web.israelinsider.com/Articles/Politics/13056.htm), Title 8 of the U.S. Code of the U. S. Constitution, “U.S. nationals who become citizens are not considered natural-born.”
B: There is no record or claim by Barry (whatever) that he ever became a U.S. citizen again, that makes him fall under, “Title 8 of the U.S. Code of the U. S. Constitution” “U.S. nationals who become citizens are not considered natural-born.”
“U.S. Nationals
A “national” is a person who is considered under the legal protection of a country, while not necessarily a citizen. National status is generally conferred on persons who lived in places acquired by the U.S. before the date of acquisition. A person can be a national-at-birth under a similar set of rules for a natural-born citizen. U.S. nationals must go through the same processes as an immigrant to become a full citizen. U.S. nationals who become citizens are not considered natural-born.”
C: The only alleged questionable proof Barry (whatever) supports his claim of U.S. citizenship with, is currently a forged document, if nothing else, and punishable by deportation. (http://web.israelinsider.com/Articles/Politics/12932.htm) U.S. Law.
2: When and how did Barry Soetoro’s sister Maya get the exact same Certificate of Live Birth type form, from the state of Hawaii in her (birth) name and the fact that Maya was actually born in Indonesia, not in Hawaii, does Barack II, ring a bell?
A: Barry whatever’s sister, Maya Soetoro of Indonesia, Certificate of Live Birth, happens to be on the same Certificate Barry used to claim U.S. citizenship, for they where not twins conjoined at birth. (http://web.israelinsider.com/Articles/Politics/13056.htm).
B: The forged Certificate of Live Birth as presented to the public is for either Maya Soetoro and Barry Soetoro, miraculously changed back to Barack Hussein Obama II. This would clearly deny Barry (whatever) from being the President of the U.S.
C: This single document C.O.L.B. of questionable background, Certificate of Live Birth, falls short by any examination by a professional or amateur person, with today’s technology, and disqualifies Barry whatever from being president and for that matter a U.S. Senator under the Constitution of the United States under all its codes, laws and amendments, without any other substantiated documentations to clarify the issue at hand.
3: When did the Queen or King of England, degree Barrack Hessian Obama I, not a subject (citizen of the Crown in Kenya) declaring his son Barrack Hessian Obama II, not an English subject (citizen), making him (II) an English subject national, under his fathers lineage, not his mothers, no matter where (II) was born, a fathers lineage will always out trump a mothers, unless DNA proves otherwise. The colors and the glove match, don’t they?
A: Under British law Barack Hussein Obama I and II, are British subjects aka citizens, Barack’s II, paternal father traveled and maintained until his death a British (Kenyan) passport as would his family travel under and with him. This makes Barack II, a foreign national and could never be a U.S. President under its laws, just compare Arnold Schwarzenegger’s plight.
B: There is no record given or available currently denying or stating Barack I or II gave up their British citizenship’s to qualify to be a U.S. citizen or national, no matter where Barack II was born or claimed to be born, then and currently no duel citizenship exists or allowed between America and England, remember, we were all their subjects once.
C: Odd, Barack’s II grand mother his own fathers mother, who is still alive, has testified that she was present at and witnessed Barack’s II birth in Kenya, and the Kenyan government, states he was born there in Kenya, officially. Kenya a Muslim nation, then and now, never-ever call themselves Africans but Muslims of the Nation of Islam. Interestingly, Barack II, could not qualify as an African, because he-they claim to be of Arab-Muslim descent and lineage of the Nation of Islam.
4: When did the Concorde Jet first start to land in Hawaii, if ever from Kenya or for that matter from Indonesia, or was it even flying at the time in 1961? Bean me up Scottie, its Captain Kirk from Star Trek fame; this whole thing is a time warp situation joke, not.
A: All kidding aside, Barack’s II, mother really got around fast, really fast with a baby still not born or in tow, now at (18) eighteen, Stanley Ann Dunham (born 29-Nov-1942, died 7-Nov-1995) and still freshly married to Barack Hussein Obama I, in Kenya, they all leave Kenya and fly to Hawaii, never passing through U.S. Customs, you those little forms you make before you land, even a private plane is met by customs, and then delivers a baby with no doctor, no hospital; after all this baby someday will the president of the United States, and that’s no small feint, even by Superman or Superwoman standards.
B: If Barack’s II mother was indeed married to Barack I, born in 1936 Kenya, who died in 1982, who lists his (family Tree) an uncle, so does his son Barack II, Jomo Kenyatta, born Oct. 20, 1892, died Aug. 22, 1978, and President of Kenya, from 1964-78, a Head of State too. (That swagger Barack II, got and struts around with, I knew it came from black Arab royalty.) She would be traveling under a British passport, her own or her husbands. Because she never had a U.S. passport to begin with, she was out of the U.S.A. a minimum of (10) ten years, for so long and under age, she traveled with and on her parents U.S. passports; they left her in Kenya, at the age of (16) sixteen, obviously a very rebellious young girl to abandon. The U.S. at that time did not issue passports to children, and she did not return with them to the U.S.A. as one, their child. This defies logic as Spock would say, a British subject giving birth allegedly in Hawaii, claiming to be an American giving birth to a Kenyan citizen, who could never be a U.S. president.
5, When did or how did Obama’s II mother meet Title 8 of the U.S. Code of the U. S. Constitution, with the five year legal age provision get overturned? Quote “On point #4, we can bicker about his mother’s ‘16+5 yr eligibility’ to confer “natural born” citizenship on BHO” posted by “Republican Lawyer July 22nd, 2009 - 6:52 pm;” at breitbart.tv”, at the age of 17 seventeen.
A: This code was broken by the Obamas, Soetoros and the Dunhams. In simple math she was 17 getting married to a black man in Kenya, having a child Barack II, at 18, then leaving the U.S.A. at 20, to live and get remarried one day in Indonesia, to Lolo Soetoro of Indonesia. Allegedly returned to Hawaii before Aug. 4 or 8, 1961, to deliver Barack II, then returning to Indonesia where Barack II aka Barry Soetoro, was schooled and became a citizen of. Stanley Ann Dunham, born 29-Nov-1942, that would be 20 years and 9 months, she could not have claimed him (Barack II) to be a natural born citizen. The reason I beg to differ and bicker with “Republican Lawyer” that the 16+5 rule, that she fell short of the time period allowed and that those 5 years represent living in the U.S.A., not in Kenya under any circumstances, of which she clearly never met the standard of the code. Further, Stanley Ann Dunham, Barack’s II mother also would have renounced her U.S. citizenship, to live and stay in Indonesia all those years, again Indonesia does not allow dual citizenship at all, at any time.
B: Code “8. A final, historical condition: a person born before 5/24/1934 of an alien father and a U.S. citizen mother who has lived in the U.S.” How clear can a law or code be? She, Stanley Ann Dunham, born 29-Nov-1942, Barack’s II mother failed this law by (8) eight years, not months, to claim to have a natural born citizen of the U.S., because she never lived in the U.S. for years.
C: Code “4. Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year and the other parent is a U.S. national.” This code and law twice says parent, not child, what part of that year is a parent, a parent? Certainly not before the age five, when approximately Stanley Ann Dunham left the U.S. and certainly Barack Hessian Obama I, was never-ever a U.S. national, him (Barack I) getting free scholarships like his son Barack II, because to get a Fulbright scholarship you cannot be a U.S. citizen, that’s not be, get it. They both either lied or one is telling the truth.
Sorry, I have to stop here, there is enough here I think under factual U.S. law to ask for and demand the Sergeant of Arms of the Congress of these United States to remove immediately Barack Hussein Obama II, from the White House Office as President. Then The House of Representatives and The Senate, and if they refuse, the National Guard, and they refuse the military; Army, Navy, Marines the Air Force. Then pray to God almighty to get the bum out and save us please.
Because, Barack Hessian Obama II, offered some jerk Certificate of Live Birth, to fool an entire nation, who was never born in the fields of some Dole Pineapple Plantation, somewhere in Hawaii, as claimed, to be President of The United States of America.
tih is agnostic on the Birth Certificate Issue.
What evidence does Neal Boortz possess that Joseph Farrah (Worldnetdaily) doesn’t? If Neal Boortz has proof that BHO is a natural born citizen, go to worldnetdaily.com and collect the $100,000 prize because it’s being offered to anyone with evidence.
a) He doesn't have one
b) He wants the controversy to continue and pigeon-hole the "birthers" as nutty racists
c) all of the above
Wishful thinking. Perhaps if we click our heels 3 times and say the magic words, we can wish ourselves back to Kansas.
It’s more of a put down of people they are also screaming to investigate and stay on top of issues. It seems some don’t want to touch a legitmate issue.
How can Gibbs think that Zero's DNA would resolve the matter of his birthplace?
Well, Neil, I don’t hate you. I just think you’re being awfully STUPID. And that’s not usually your M.O.
What’s so difficult to understand. This guy hs not released ANY of his records. So, how do we even know who he is, let alone whether he’s a citizen.
At this point, it seems extremely doubtful that he is, or he would release the records.
That COLB on the web? Well, Obama didn’t release it. We don’t really know who did. It first appeared on a Soros website, and then spread to FightTheSmears, which has since vanished.
The COLB is a forgery. And no one with the authority to comment on it, including Obama himself, has ever said otherwise. A thousand newspaper reporters have said it is real, but they have never provided any evidence for these statements.
How come Obama refuses to even talk about it, let alone release his long form BC and his other records, all of which have gone missing?
There you have it! The president's being born in this country is "made-up fictional nonsense."
There’s something in it that puts the lie to something BIG in the “0bama mystique”.
He can't find any more Sarah-bashing threads so he's moved to the B.C.
He's a slippery devil.
What the heck does DNA have to do with producing a birth certificate???????
Is this a slip of the tongue about Sr being his real daddy?
Are they are worried about it?
I would think that Neal Boortz would know by now that there is a difference between citizen and “natural born” citizen.
Geeze! As Neal says, it has been 6 whole months that Obama has been president and the **natural born** status of this man remains legally unresolved.
Can you believe that six months into his presidency the effete press has not illuminated the citizens about any of Obama's past. How he got into the college he went to. Who paid for his education. Was he a foreign student? What were his grades? What country's passport did he travel on? Who was the doctor that attended his birth? Who was listed as his father on his birth certificate? When did he register for the draft?
I guess the ostriches, those who do not want to know about anything, are the new "journalists".
Can you believe it?!
It’s a scary issue. If BHO is found to be an illegal occupant of the White House, it would be a first in the history of the U.S. and there could be civil unrest on a massive scale. Plus, all the executive orders and appointments would be nullified, maybe.
Robert Gibbs, is that you?
Since Obama's approval rating is tanking, wouldn't it behoove the President to simply present his documentation?
Gibbs is a blundering fool but I have to wonder if this was a freuadian slip
That $100,000 prize is going to be pretty hard to dance around, right Steve?
I guess you forgot that GWB was "selected not elected".
The left wingers held onto that one for 8 years and what harm did it do to their cause?
Here is a key point you are missing.
Citizenship is ‘sticky’.
Just because one country (Indonesia) demands that you only be a citizen of one country, it does not mean that the other countries (U.K., U.S.A.) have to recognize that act.
To renounce your U.S. citizenship when you are overseas, you are required to go to the U.S. embassy and do it there. They don’t recognize any other recunciation.
Similarly. If you naturalize into the U.S., and renounce your citizenship to another country, in public, in a U.S. Court, apparently that other country (England) does not recognize the renunciation unless you also go to their embassy and do it there.
Maybe Steve-B will collect the big prize?
NO ONE is going to acknowledge all of these facts. To do so would lead to a constitutional crisis. Ann Dunham is your classic expatriate and I think a clear look at the facts provides a good case for concluding that she expatriated her son.
I believe he is a natural born citizen for one very important reason: Biden as president would be even worse.
Nice rant!
Dear Neal:
The issue is just this one thing:
Let’s SEE the birth certificate. There’s a reason Obama doesn’t want us to see it. So let’s see it.
No theories. No speculation. No kookery.
Just let us SEE it.
BTW: You position on abortion STINKS. Our country is headed for destruction unless we stop the MURDER of BABIES.
Yup! steve,,, go away!
Thing is Gibbs stated he was a citizen, he didn’t step into it and state he is a Natural born citizen. Wonder why he won’t step over that boundary?
Someone should definitely ask that question - which is it, Natural born or just Citizen? Inquiring minds need to know!
I always said O chose Biden as an insurance policy...when you follow Biden, you get Pelosi....(line of presidency if president unable to finish term....Polosi is more of a nightmare than Biden...
b) He wants the controversy to continue and pigeon-hole the "birthers" as nutty racists
*** DING DING DING *** No more calls; we have a winner!
No, not if he was born on Hawaii.
Parents cannot renounce US Nationality on behalf of their
kids.
http://travel.state.gov/law/citizenship/citizenship_776.html
Read it, didn’t write it.
Yeh, like we’re not in the middle of a Constitutional crisis now. The whole thing!
I didn’t write that rANT btw.
Nice summation though!
He didn’t have to renounce it - he was born of a US Citizen and a British Citizen, not from 2 US Citizens!
He also was adopted by Soetoro, what happened to that name. He just decided to change it with no paper trail?
“Biden as president would be even worse.”
Nope. He’d be easier to beat in 2012.
LOL! Good one.
How would Biden be worse?
“Citizenship is ‘sticky’.”
This country is a PERFECT example. Look how many different flavors of illegals we have here? And the quantities.
I think the rules were different back in 1961. Not everyone born in the US was automatically a citizen.
Because that’s the kind of “logic” Gibbs uses.
Of course they could produce the Long Form Birth Certificate ...
No, wait - that’s TOO DIFFICULT
This needs to be put in chart form to make any sense of it.
Not to mention that a question cannot be "made-up fictional nonsense" in any case.
It's a question.
It's a question most of us can answer with a document we can get for a few dollars, if we don't already have a copy.
It's a question Obama can't, or won't, answer.
Why?
As bad as Obama is, I think he is smarter than Biden. I think that if Biden became president, this country would be attacked - hot war style - within weeks.
It is likely with Obama, eventually, but less likely.
I am very serious about this.
ping
Boortz’ true stripes showing.
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