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Stop the New Vietnam War: They're Killing Catholic Priests!
Catholic Online ^ | 7/31/09 | Deacon Keith Fournier

Posted on 07/30/2009 6:57:15 PM PDT by tcg

The news out of Vietnam demonstrates a reality which few acknowledge these days when we mistakenly think we have become so “enlightened”, the existence of evil. It demands immediate global responsive action. There is a new “Vietnam War” underway. The enemies of life, freedom and true liberation are killing Catholic priests in Vietnam!

The leftover remnant of the discredited and inhuman ideology of Maoism is now turning its ire against what has always been its greatest enemy, the only true humanism, the Christian faith. The fullness of that Christian faith, with the only systematic social development of the implications of that new and true humanism which can inform a new social movement, is the Catholic faith. That is why the denizens of death and the carriers of such a discredited ideology as Marxism have decided to strike against the Catholic Church by striking its shepherds and trying to scatter the sheep. (Zech 13:7)

Old Marxists never die, they just recreate themselves. Claiming, as their founders did, that the new man (or new woman) can somehow be created through a Statist manipulation of the political and economic order, they keep morphing into new expressions and pushing their old lies. In an age which has become what Pope Benedict rightly labeled a “dictatorship of relativism”, rejecting all truth claims, they are finding traction once again.

Yet, in Vietnam, they have not changed all that much in their message or their means. Marxism, and its evil clone, the anti-life, anti-freedom and anti-human ideology of the cultural revolution of the former tyrant, the Chairman Mao Zedong, continue to enforce their agenda through State sponsored violence. Their greatest enemy is still the only champion of true freedom, the Catholic Church and the message which she proclaims of true human liberation in Jesus Christ.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: catholics; communists; persecution; vietnam
There is a new “Vietnam War” underway. The enemies of life, freedom and true liberation are killing Catholic priests in Vietnam!
1 posted on 07/30/2009 6:57:18 PM PDT by tcg
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To: Salvation; ALOHA RONNIE

This is appalling.


2 posted on 07/30/2009 7:04:28 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Liberal sacred cows make great hamburger)
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To: tcg

St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle ...


3 posted on 07/30/2009 7:10:20 PM PDT by mlizzy
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To: tcg

With cathedrals in Saigon, Danang and Hanoi, and smaller churches up and down the coast at least...and with western tourism adding significantly to their economy, one would think the Vietnamese would take better care of the image they now project to the world.

I hope they don’t wreck a yet beautiful country.


4 posted on 07/30/2009 7:14:06 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: tcg

This has been going on and it’s not just Catholics, they’ve bulldozed small independent Christian churches, welded a pastor and his wife in their own home by welding bars across doors, windows, they were imprisoned for several months, other persecutions.

Oh but see, as one Left wing journalist said, “We’re at peace with Vietnam now”. Sure buddy, remember the Kamer Rouge? And then there’s always Pol Pot in Cambodia, such nice folks.

And then there’s Socialist Democrat party in the USSA, tigers of the same stripe as it were...


5 posted on 07/30/2009 7:15:21 PM PDT by brushcop (SFC Sallie, CPL Long, LTHarris, SSG Brown, PVT Simmons KIA OIF lll&V, they died for you, honor them)
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To: brushcop

Religious freedom was making great progress in S. VN. I made several visits and saw lots of new Churches and crosses in a lot of places. It seemed that the commies had lightened up on the persecution. This maybe a limited warning to not go to far.
It won’t even be on Zero’s radar screen. He will be happy that VN is not straying to far from communism and socialism.


6 posted on 07/30/2009 7:26:19 PM PDT by Oldexpat
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To: tcg

This article includes a paragraph about some who have recently been arrested and then held for trial. It doesn’t include the information on the priests who were killed.

That is probably in an earlier article.

Can you please provide me with a link? Having just returned from Vietnam in March, after a trip there with reps from my denomination, I know that they would be EXTREMELY interested in this information. I would sincerely appreciate your help. Thanks.


7 posted on 07/30/2009 7:27:18 PM PDT by xzins (Chaplain Says: Jesus befriends all who ask Him for help.)
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To: tcg
Here's two that worked hard to make this possible.


8 posted on 07/30/2009 7:38:35 PM PDT by Iron Munro (Michelle Of Chicago - The butt that launched a thousand quips)
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To: tcg

Wait a minute, I thought they were our trade partners!


9 posted on 07/30/2009 8:01:10 PM PDT by campaignPete R-CT
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To: Iron Munro

I’m not Fonda Hanoi John.


10 posted on 07/30/2009 8:02:34 PM PDT by campaignPete R-CT
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To: All; tcg

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NEVER FORGET

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Precisely what American & South Vietnamese Soldiers were so selflessly fighting to prevent from happening long ago in Vietnam’s once FREE Central Highlands:

FReeper Alert: Prominent Pastor Flees Encircled home, then Jailed, Wife Beaten

http://www.Freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2304032/posts

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NEVER FORGET

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11 posted on 07/30/2009 8:07:26 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: tcg

I wouldn’t think they’re any friendlier to Protestant ministers.


12 posted on 07/30/2009 8:14:30 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Democrat Party: a criminal organization masquerading as a political party)
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To: campaignPete R-CT

Similar garbage goes on in China. And it seems nobody cares.


13 posted on 07/30/2009 8:15:29 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Democrat Party: a criminal organization masquerading as a political party)
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To: All; Iron Munro; Clintonfatigued; Freedom'sWorthIt

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NEVER FORGET

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From Year 2002:

Freeper Alert: Sen. KERRY / Vietnamese Communists Killing Off Christians in Central Highlands

http://www.Freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/675016/posts

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NEVER FORGET

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14 posted on 07/30/2009 8:28:22 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: xzins

I’ve been there a few times as well, huge Catholic cathedral in Hanoi, masses, etc. Never heard of any such abuse of Catholics there.


15 posted on 07/30/2009 8:32:48 PM PDT by neoprene
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To: All; Oldexpat

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NEVER FORGET

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Vietnam Mennonite Church Center Destroyed by Government Officials
(See Photos)

http://www.mennonitechurch.ca/programs/peace/vietnam/VMC_destroyed.htm

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NEVER FORGET

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16 posted on 07/30/2009 8:38:47 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: tcg

yea, but FORD & NIKE are profiting in ‘Nam so what the heck...


17 posted on 07/30/2009 9:15:08 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: mlizzy

be our defense against the wickedness and snares of the enemy...


18 posted on 07/30/2009 9:21:35 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (The revolution IS being televised.)
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To: Coleus; firebrand

ping


19 posted on 07/30/2009 11:04:19 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: ALOHA RONNIE

Thanks, Aloha Ronnie, for all the reminders.


20 posted on 07/31/2009 6:42:00 PM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: All; HiTech RedNeck

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See Post No 11...

Thank you very much,

AR

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21 posted on 07/31/2009 8:05:03 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: All; Freedom'sWorthIt

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NEVER FORGET

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T’is really my distinct honor and privilege to post my reminders here about something that has always meant a lot to me =

FREEDOM for Vietnam

If only http://www.Freerepublic.com were here for us when we Vietnam Vets came home,

Vietnam would still be FREE today..!!!

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NEVER FORGET

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22 posted on 07/31/2009 8:10:54 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE

Yes it would! God bless you and all those who fought and died to bring freedom to the Vietnamese people!


23 posted on 07/31/2009 8:13:25 PM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: All; Freedom'sWorthIt

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NEVER FORGET

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It has been my distinct honor to also be closely connected to a most FREEDOM Loving Vietnamese American Community in Little Saigon, CA. for years.

They always ask me to express to my fellow Vietnam Vets their undying gratitude for our having fought on behalf of their FREEDOM long ago.

And to all present and past American Soldiers who are and have been fighting for FREEDOM around the world.

For who knows better the value of FREEDOM than those who have had it violently taken from them..?

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NEVER FORGET

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24 posted on 07/31/2009 8:25:19 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: tcg

How dare you insinuate that the objectively baseless morality of atheism would justify killing peoople because they believe in God. While that may be easily justifed as “reasonable” to them, surely these superior rational humans would not do such a thing. Just ask Mao, or Pol Pot. http://reformed-theology.org/html/issue06/governments.htm
http://www.christianaction.org.za/firearmnews/2004-04_thegreatestkiller.htm

Yet the most damnable killer is a false gospel, such as holds that the merit of work may work in gaining justification before God. And the Vietnamese gov. also persecutes and kills evangelical Christians who preach the gospel of grace.


25 posted on 07/31/2009 8:26:55 PM PDT by daniel1212
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To: ALOHA RONNIE

Amen. Please tell them from someone who lived through that era but who was not privileged to be in the military then - that I am glad they have survived and came here to experience freedom - but that we need their help to stay free. We are losing our freedoms fast thanks to the Demonrats in Congress and elsewhere. Ask them to get out and let others hear the horrors that they lived through...though they probably do this already.

And tell them God bless them!


26 posted on 07/31/2009 8:28:26 PM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: All; onedoug; kristinn; reformjoy; ThanhPhero; Republic; Alamo-Girl

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NEVER FORGET

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The Vietnamese Communists do not care what anyone thinks about what they are doing to the people and country of Vietnam. Only about controlling and abusing both.

As those who really do care about Vietnam, the Free Vietnamese Communities abroad, have to endure watching from afar as Vietnam’s riches are being turned over to Communists abroad to pay for their past funding of Communist North Vietnam during the Vietnam War.

Even Vietnam’s General GIAP gets it now:

Vietnam hero general takes on the Communist Party

http://www.ArmchairGeneral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=80091

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NEVER FORGET

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27 posted on 08/01/2009 5:32:19 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: Freedom'sWorthIt

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See ALOHA RONNIE’s Post No. 27...

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28 posted on 08/01/2009 6:30:08 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE

Good information - thank you.


29 posted on 08/01/2009 6:39:42 PM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: All; tcg; LucyT

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NEVER FORGET

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CLARITY =

Hanoi denies attacks on priets. The diocese of Vinh produces photos

http://www.asianews.it/index.php?l=en&art=15925&size=A

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NEVER FORGET

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30 posted on 08/02/2009 6:47:05 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: All; tcg; LucyT

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NEVER FORGET

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CLARITY =

Hanoi denies attacks on priets. The diocese of Vinh produces photos

http://www.asianews.it/index.php?l=en&art=15925&size=A

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NEVER FORGET

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31 posted on 08/02/2009 6:47:33 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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