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DID JESUS GIVE US THE NAME OF THE ANTICHRIST?
http://www.youtube.com ^ | July 27, 2009 | P. P. Simmons

Posted on 07/30/2009 11:03:51 PM PDT by Maelstorm

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Did Jesus actually reveal name of the 'antichrist'? via kwout



TOPICS: Israel; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: antichrist; devil; endtimes; evil; jesus; keepfronline; obama; prophecy; satan; sourcetitlenoturl; stopthisufocrap; threadnumber3
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This is an amusing coincidence? ;-)
1 posted on 07/30/2009 11:03:51 PM PDT by Maelstorm
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To: Maelstorm

Yeah, that was posted here the other day. Funny and interesting.

I’m posting this all over tonight because too many people and sites seem to be “going away” lately.

Has everyone read the report from the committee that determined McLame was eligible? There were 5 RATS and 1 Republican and Chertoff who all agreed on the definition of “natural born citizen” meaning born on US soil to US citizen parents (the plural as in both mom and dad). Two of the RATS just happened to be

*****CLINTON and OBAMA*******

Obama has said many times and wrote in Dreams he is the son of O Sr., a Kenyan. The COLB shows his father to be O. Sr., an African. Bottom line, he is not a “natural born citizen” by his own definition from the committe so he is not eligible.

http://leahy.senate.gov/press/200804/041008c.html


2 posted on 07/30/2009 11:07:29 PM PDT by bgill (The evidence simply does not support the official position of the Obama administration)
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To: Maelstorm

Ridiculous nonsense. Jesus did tell us the region the rebel would be from and what general area he would rule from.


3 posted on 07/30/2009 11:09:42 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Maelstorm

Creepy.


4 posted on 07/30/2009 11:10:59 PM PDT by dsc (The "t" in the word "often" is silent.)
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To: Nathan Zachary

;-)


5 posted on 07/30/2009 11:13:50 PM PDT by Maelstorm (Why are those who claim to have open minds so afraid of open debate?)
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To: bgill

This is the 13th post of this thread. Satan is supposed to be smart and doesn’t need a teleprompter so it’s not Obama.


6 posted on 07/30/2009 11:15:34 PM PDT by max americana
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To: Maelstorm

Went to a lecture by a mathematician who created a system to find words or codes in the Torah. There are a huge number of names and dates of important people and events that pop out.

He pointed out that it is impossible to predict anything from the codes. Only after the event are we able to look back and see the connection. He cautioned against using the codes in this way.


7 posted on 07/30/2009 11:16:12 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Maelstorm

Interesting video.


8 posted on 07/30/2009 11:18:04 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (The UN has never won a war, nor a conflict, but liberals want it to rule all militaries.)
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To: Nachum
He pointed out that it is impossible to predict anything from the codes.

Of course.
9 posted on 07/30/2009 11:18:17 PM PDT by Terpfen (FR is being Alinskied. Remember, you only take flak when you're over the target.)
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To: Maelstorm
Wow, crazy.

If the references are correct, i.e.: the Hebrew translations, then again, wow.....

If true, and it comes to pass, then bring it on! I am ready to do battle with the anti-Christ. I am ready spiritually, mentally and physically.

Bring it, b***h!

10 posted on 07/30/2009 11:19:13 PM PDT by rmccullo
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To: Nachum

I’ve found the Torah codes interesting. They do appear to be more than noise but what they mean I’m not certain. Divination I believe is a fruitless endeavor. It is like Nostradamus, it becomes a moving target after a while.


11 posted on 07/30/2009 11:20:17 PM PDT by Maelstorm (Why are those who claim to have open minds so afraid of open debate?)
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To: Maelstorm
No but He did give the winning Loto numbers though.
12 posted on 07/30/2009 11:20:36 PM PDT by guitarplayer1953 (Warning: Some words may be misspelled/ You will get over it / Klingon is my 1st language)
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To: rmccullo

So was Jesus. And look what happened to him.


13 posted on 07/30/2009 11:21:35 PM PDT by Soothesayer9
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To: rmccullo
I am ready to do battle with the anti-Christ. I am ready spiritually, mentally and physically.

It is very dangerous to ask God to test us. Careful what you ask for.

14 posted on 07/30/2009 11:22:05 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: bgill

“born on US soil to US citizen parents”

McLame was not born on US soil. The criterion is born to US parents, and I believe it also extends to those who derive citizenship from one US parent.


15 posted on 07/30/2009 11:22:31 PM PDT by dsc (The "t" in the word "often" is silent.)
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To: dsc

US military bases are under the jurisdiction of the US and are “US soil”.


16 posted on 07/30/2009 11:25:14 PM PDT by bgill (The evidence simply does not support the official position of the Obama administration)
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To: Maelstorm

Now that’s funny.


17 posted on 07/30/2009 11:28:15 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (Charter Member, 58 Million Club)
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To: Maelstorm
And it isn't the USA. In fact the role the USA, what most bible scholars agree "kittem" means, is an enabler, lack of action leads to the rise of 4th and final Persian empire from which the anti Christ rise from.

Plus, The New Testament when it was first recorded, was written down not in Aramaic or Hebrew, but in Greek.

18 posted on 07/30/2009 11:28:52 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: guitarplayer1953
No but He did give the winning Loto numbers though. What is it ? I really need to know
19 posted on 07/30/2009 11:29:42 PM PDT by woofie
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To: max americana

Indeed, off-teleprompter Obama is worse than Bush.


20 posted on 07/30/2009 11:30:31 PM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: Maelstorm

And Marco Rubio is the Anti-Crist.


21 posted on 07/30/2009 11:30:43 PM PDT by rfp1234
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To: woofie
It's right there in the bible code.
22 posted on 07/30/2009 11:31:03 PM PDT by guitarplayer1953 (Warning: Some words may be misspelled/ You will get over it / Klingon is my 1st language)
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To: bgill

In college we were taught that American derive their citizenship 1 of 2 ways - by the law of the soil or the law of the blood. Children born on American soil are American citizens (that’s why a lot of illegals want to have their children here) and children born of at least 1 American parent are citizens.


23 posted on 07/30/2009 11:44:11 PM PDT by Warriormom
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To: dsc
"and I believe it also extends to those who derive citizenship from one US parent.

No it doesn't' -or didn't rather- in 1961.

24 posted on 07/30/2009 11:49:22 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Soothesayer9
"So was Jesus. And look what happened to him."

Jesus won. He defeated death and released all mankind from certain death in the process.

25 posted on 07/30/2009 11:56:28 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Nachum
"I am ready to do battle with the anti-Christ. I am ready spiritually, mentally and physically.

It's not something we ask God to test us with. We battle the anti-Christ every day by living and following the path of the Lords gospel (word)

26 posted on 07/31/2009 12:00:41 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Warriormom
'In college we were taught that American derive their citizenship 1 of 2 ways - by the law of the soil or the law of the blood. Children born on American soil are American citizens (that’s why a lot of illegals want to have their children here) and children born of at least 1 American parent are citizens."

Not in 1961. Both parents had to be American.

27 posted on 07/31/2009 12:03:38 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: bgill

John McCain was born in a public hospital in the city of Colon, the Republic of Panama.


28 posted on 07/31/2009 12:09:23 AM PDT by SatinDoll (NO Foreign Nationals as our President!!)
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To: Maelstorm

self ping, for later.


29 posted on 07/31/2009 12:09:33 AM PDT by Markos33 (Third World trickle up poverty, will lead to cascading Third World tyranny.)
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To: Nachum

I don’t think I dared God to test me with that statement. Read it again more carefully. If anything, I dared the anti-Christ to show his stuff.

I have no fear of Satan anymore. Not after what I’ve been through.


30 posted on 07/31/2009 12:16:25 AM PDT by rmccullo
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To: Nathan Zachary

You’re correct - that wasn’t the law in 1961. I was just saying that is the way it is currently and I didn’t make that clear.


31 posted on 07/31/2009 12:17:46 AM PDT by Warriormom
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To: Soothesayer9

Jesus is God and Life Everlasting. Game over.


32 posted on 07/31/2009 12:17:47 AM PDT by rmccullo
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To: Nathan Zachary
Plus, The New Testament when it was first recorded, was written down not in Aramaic or Hebrew, but in Greek.

Well Luke was certainly in Greek, as the video mentioned. But Jesus probably was speaking Aramaic. That is why the video has to guess at Jesus's literal words that were then translated to Greek.

BTW, perhaps not all the New Testemant was originally Greek. Some scholars favor the theory that Mathew wrote his gospel in Hebrew.

33 posted on 07/31/2009 12:20:44 AM PDT by AndyTheBear
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To: Nachum

The more obvious concern is why would you look for predictions encrypted in the text but not care about its face reading?


34 posted on 07/31/2009 12:21:24 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Democrat Party: a criminal organization masquerading as a political party)
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To: AndyTheBear
"BTW, perhaps not all the New Testemant was originally Greek. Some scholars favor the theory that Mathew wrote his gospel in Hebrew."

Possibly. And yes Jesus did speak in Aramaic. What I meant was the complete gospel was first given in it's entirety in greek.

When Jesus walked the earth, He spoke to the Jews in their own Aramaic tongue, but even then they did not understand him because he spoke in parables .

"Do you know why you cannot take in what I say? It is because you are unable to understand my language." John 8:43

35 posted on 07/31/2009 12:46:50 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Nathan Zachary; Star Traveler
When Jesus said:

Satan fall like lightning from heaven

In Aramaic did it in fact sound like

satan barakobama?

Do Aramaic linguistic scholars exist today?

36 posted on 07/31/2009 1:09:53 AM PDT by marbren
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To: Maelstorm

Too bad there’s NO SUCH THING as the apocalyptic anti-Christ. The term is only used to describe people who are against Christ, and Revelations does not mention the anti-Christ at all, that is simply a very very loose (mis)interpretation.

Sleep soundly. Obama is just a bad President, not the author of the apocalypse.


37 posted on 07/31/2009 1:17:20 AM PDT by LifeComesFirst (http://rw-rebirth.blogspot.com)
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To: Maelstorm

Interesting.


38 posted on 07/31/2009 1:27:43 AM PDT by ReadTheLaw (by Frederic Bastiat)
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To: Nachum

You can do the same with any large enough book, in any language.


39 posted on 07/31/2009 1:30:04 AM PDT by LifeComesFirst (http://rw-rebirth.blogspot.com)
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To: Maelstorm

Bump for later


40 posted on 07/31/2009 1:34:54 AM PDT by Dustbunny ("Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them. " Ronald Reagan)
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To: Maelstorm

I believe that Obama’s illegitimate presidency is a smoke screen for his master. Anti-Christ sets up a three nation power base, recreating the Holy Roman Empire and has ten allies (Horns) surrounding Israel. A U.S.A., Canada, & Mexico Commonwealth, does not meet the criteria. Obama antagonizes Israel, but Anti-Christ makes them allies, only to betray in the end. Israel will ultimately recognize Anti-Christ for who he really is (only a resurrected Adolf Hitler, not Nero fits prophecy) and will be hopelessly traumatized. It will take Christ’s return to ultimately save the remaining of the 144,000 “Old Covenant Jews”, who are still of His chosen people.

In the case of the Jews, it is not absolutely necessary for them to have accepted Christ, but to have lived their lives to the letter of the Old Covenant. Only 144,000, (evidence that living according to the “OC” and pleasing God is a very difficult endeavor), from the date of the Resurrection of Christ to the Day of the Lord will ultimately be saved.


41 posted on 07/31/2009 1:42:37 AM PDT by Birdsbane ("Onward through the fog!" ... Oat Willie)
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To: LifeComesFirst

It mentions the “beast and false prophet’ being directly thrown into the lake of fire. That’s a very direct reference to me. Revelatons mentions the “beast having been allowed to overcome and kill God’s two witnesses with the “whole world rejoicing and giving each other presents”(’till God raised them up after three days). Oh I think the antichrist is very directly mentioned!


42 posted on 07/31/2009 2:54:02 AM PDT by mdmathis6
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To: Birdsbane

“In the case of the Jews, it is not absolutely necessary for them to have accepted Christ, but to have lived their lives to the letter of the Old Covenant. Only 144,000, (evidence that living according to the “OC” and pleasing God is a very difficult endeavor), from the date of the Resurrection of Christ to the Day of the Lord will ultimately be saved.”

I do take issue with that statement that the Jews following even the letter of the law without accepting Christ will be the assurance of their salvation. “Without Christ it is impossible to please God.” However, a more interesting conversation could be had concerning Messianic Jews who have currently accepted Yeshua as their savior.


43 posted on 07/31/2009 3:02:19 AM PDT by mdmathis6
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To: LifeComesFirst

Are you Jehovah’s Witness...got ‘em in my family...unfortunately.


44 posted on 07/31/2009 3:10:34 AM PDT by Birdsbane ("Onward through the fog!" ... Oat Willie)
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To: mdmathis6

The Jews who have chosen the Second Covenant, are covered by Christ’s blood. Christ did not live and die to replace the First Covenant, but to offer an alternative in order to encompass all peoples. If you are a Jew, I do not mean to offend, but explain the differences between the two. Both are legit. I’m just hoping that I have not started yet another chasim between fellow FRiends. Ulimately. it comes down to this, one is either a member of the “Club” or is not.


45 posted on 07/31/2009 3:23:12 AM PDT by Birdsbane ("Onward through the fog!" ... Oat Willie)
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To: Nachum

Yes, be very careful. Pride cometh before a fall and a haughty spirit before destruction.


46 posted on 07/31/2009 3:59:48 AM PDT by tefis (Time for the truth to be told!)
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To: LifeComesFirst

“You can do the same with any large enough book, in any language.”

If you mean that random names or dates can be skip coded out of random places in any “large enough” book....then yeah. But if you mean that you can find the interconnected subjects of The Torah in the skip code AS WELL AS in the face Torah...then NO. No you can’t do it with any book, large enough or otherwise. FWIW the Torah isn’t a large book by any adult standard.


47 posted on 07/31/2009 4:15:09 AM PDT by TalBlack
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To: Nathan Zachary
Ridiculous nonsense. Jesus did tell us the region the rebel would be from and what general area he would rule from.

Do we know where Barry came from?
48 posted on 07/31/2009 5:10:28 AM PDT by Sig Sauer P220 (Forget going Galt. Its time to go Braveheart.)
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To: Birdsbane

Sorry, but I take His words to be exactly what they are:

(4) And you know the way to where I am going.” (5) Thomas said to him, “Lord, we do not know where you are going. How can we know the way?” (6) Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. If you had known me, you would have known my Father also. From now on you do know him and have seen him.”

Jesus makes it very plain - eschewing parables, even - that HE is the way, not A way, THE way, to the Father.


49 posted on 07/31/2009 6:56:16 AM PDT by Ro_Thunder ("Other than ending SLAVERY, FASCISM, NAZISM and COMMUNISM, war has never solved anything")
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To: Birdsbane

Christ died not to “destroy the law but to fulfill the law” so that the law of God bocomes written on all hearts of flesh, not on tablets of stone. “There is no Jew nor Greek, slave or free” declared Paul.

Paul, when expounding
upon the “unknown God” on the Athens mount declared that is was the True God that men were worshiping when they paid homage to this deity, and he further went on to explain that the True God now command that all nations accept His son Jesus as the only true way to salvation.

The whole of the New Testament speaks against your assertions and I’ll bet that Messianic Jews who know the thrill of their saviour would have a few things to say as well!


50 posted on 07/31/2009 7:43:05 AM PDT by mdmathis6
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