Skip to comments.FR Poll: Do you believe Obama is hiding or lying about something regarding his origins?
Posted on 07/30/2009 11:51:05 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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He has spent a million dollars or so to hide the fact that
he is not a citizen,,,
Nobody on this site would/could hold it against him or
anybody else about who his parents are/were,,,
Not his choice,,,
The same can be said for the anti-"birthers". And what's with the labeling of anyone questioning and demanding Obama comply with the law of the land as "birthers" anyways? People who do that are obviously Democrats, since it's what they love to do, while ridiculing anyone who does it to them, just as they cry first amendment but then label and ridicule those who use it.
YES! Why? Because he has pretty much locked up everything except his autobiography. Even his college application and records...He’s so smart, why not release all his academic records? Passport application/records Ba,r Application, records from IL State Senate, and of course the Long Form Certification of Birth—not the lame laser printed thing that he submitted to some media. What is he so determined to hide?
BTW, it would take a whole lot more than a couple Sam Adams to make me think otherwise :(
LOL! I never could figure out why, if the Gua’uld were so advanced that they could fly around the universe in ships with no windows (force fields, instead), how come they had to use torches for light? (just askin...I have all ten seasons on disk)
Definitely- for obvious reasons.
Quite possibly, but very doubtful it’s anything that would have bearing on the “natural born citizen” issue. The evidence is overwhelming that he was born in Hawaii, and that settles the natural born citizen question.
Was his mother actually only 16.5 years old when he was born, making her a statutory rape victim? Maybe. Was she legally married at the time to someone other than the man he knows/claims as his father? Maybe. Did she originally list somebody else as the father? Maybe. Did she originally list the father as “unknown”? Maybe. Was he actually one of a set of twins, the other of which disappeared in infancy under mysterious circumstances? Maybe.
Lots of possibilities, but most are the sort of thing that one would hide to save other relatives from embarrassment, or to avoid bringing out negative information about someone who is no longer living — not the sort of thing that would have any bearing on his eligibility to be POTUS.
If he was some sort of total impostor, producing the original long form birth certificate wouldn’t shed any light on that anyway. Maybe the Barack Soetoro on the birth certificate died in infancy, and the death was unreported, and some relative gave Stanley another baby from Kenya/Indonesia/somewhere to raise in his place. Face it, birth certificates are just pieces of paper. Until they start carrying DNA data, they’ll never really prove anything about anyone. Until fairly recently (maybe still, in some states) birth certificates were routinely issued showing adoptive parents as the birth parents, so that the child would never know s/he was adopted, even in adulthood.
Frankly, I think the whole “birther” thing is a dangerous distraction that’s being orchestrated by Democrat party operatives. It’s amazing how many conservatives are devoting most of their anti-Obama energy to pursuing this nutty idea that they can get him hauled out of office for not being a “natural born citizen”. Now who do you suppose would want conservatives to be focusing their energy and attention on this hopeless cause (while they leave issues like socialized medicine and RKBA and union power ignored on the back burner)?
Right you are. But I believe she was both, depending on who the other person was. She was telepathic to trapezoids or whatever they were called, and empathic to humans, So I guess a group of human guys she walked by she could only “feel’ their ‘happyness’...
No, I think the man was born in Hawaii as he claims and is the legitimately elected President of the United States.
It’s pretty obvious he is.
Nobody would spend that much money to keep a birth certificate a secret if he didn’t have something to hide.
No matter how you look at it, and no matter how many reasonable and rational conservatives tell me to forget about it and move on, I keep on coming back to that one point.
Over a half a million dollars in legal fees... just to keep the long form birth certificate out of sight.
That’s the reality.
I'll tell you what I think instead. I think I need to take a break from all this and clear my head, and that's exactly what I'm going to do.
You're a good man, Jim.
Really? where is it? have you seen it? All there is is a COLB, and that is not proof of being born in Hawaii.
Well, except that almost all Republicans are declining to challenge Obama on this issue. It’s hard to tar the GOP with advancing an issue they repeatedly go on the record as declining.
As for lying about his origins, its hard to tell because we don't know much. All we can do is speculate, because despite many legal attempts to get at what he is hiding, Obama has kept the truth succesfully hidden.
One can speculate about his motivation. However the most obvious theory: that his records will cast doubt on his citizenship, is not the only plausible explination. Perhaps its simply there is something unrelated that happens to be embarrassing in them.
Yes - he’s supposed to be CinC of the military and would gain an enormous amount of perceived (but grudging) validity from those who take their oath seriously.
Proving his ‘natural born citizenship’ would blunt or eliminate what could be a very significant force in support of correcting a Constitutional crisis.
I second this opinion. The House voted to proclaim Obama natural-born but if this were provably true, why bother?
And if Obama is lying in wait to embarrass the Birthers, why telegraph it with a House vote, when producing the BC would be a knockout punch?