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House passes far-reaching food safety bill
AP via Breitbart ^ | July 31, 2009 | MARY CLARE JALONICK

Posted on 07/31/2009 1:03:55 AM PDT by Jet Jaguar

The House has passed a far-reaching food safety bill requiring more government inspections and imposing new penalties on those who violate the law, reacting strongly to an outbreak of salmonella in peanuts that killed at least nine people.

The legislation would require greater oversight of food manufacturers and give the Food and Drug Administration new authority to order recalls. It also would require the FDA to develop a system for better tracing food-borne illnesses. Food companies would be required to create detailed food safety plans.

President Barack Obama praised the bill soon after it was passed, calling it "a major step forward in modernizing our food safety system."

Democrats scrambled to put the legislation back on the House floor Thursday under a rule that required a simple majority to pass. The vote was 283-142.

Supporters said the legislation would help the FDA change its focus from a reactive to a more preventive approach in keeping the nation's food safe.

"Americans are dying because the Food and Drug Administration doesn't have the authority to protect them," said Michigan Rep. John Dingell, the bill's sponsor and a long-serving Democrat who has been pushing for tougher standards for more than a decade.

A similar bill sponsored by Sen. Richard Durbin, D-Ill., has not yet seen action in the Senate.

The legislation gained new momentum in the wake of one of the largest product recalls in U.S. history, stemming from salmonella in peanuts that killed nine people, sickened hundreds of others and was linked to shoddy practices at a peanut company in Georgia. Other recent outbreaks include contaminated spinach in 2006 and salmonella in peppers last year. The government estimates that 76 million people each year are sickened by food-borne illness, hundreds of thousands are hospitalized and around 5,000 die.

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1 posted on 07/31/2009 1:03:55 AM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: Jet Jaguar

With this being a Rat plan, there has to be at least a hundred things done wrong in it.


2 posted on 07/31/2009 1:05:32 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Democrat Party: a criminal organization masquerading as a political party)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Here they go again.Another bad bill.


3 posted on 07/31/2009 1:10:06 AM PDT by sonofstrangelove (You hit somebody with your fist and not with your fingers spread". Generaloberst Heinz Guderian)
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To: sonofstrangelove

If vague memory serves, this plan was going to kill farmers’ markets and other small time local operations that can’t tag each apple and cucumber or buy the specialized tracking software.


4 posted on 07/31/2009 1:13:08 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Democrat Party: a criminal organization masquerading as a political party)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

As well as raise the price of everything in the supermarket


5 posted on 07/31/2009 1:16:31 AM PDT by knarf
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To: Jet Jaguar
"Americans are dying because the Food and Drug Administration doesn't have the authority to protect them"

Police has the authority to protect Americans and they are still dying. This country clearly needs more government "authority".

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6 posted on 07/31/2009 1:35:19 AM PDT by arbooz ("Government is actually the worst failure of civilized man." H.L.Mencken)
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To: Jet Jaguar
It's incredible how stupid Americans have become, or rather how successful the NEA and their ilk have been in dumbing down America. I'll use simple words here for any lib lurkers. Here's the hard reality:

Any government powerful enough to protect you from all perceived ills is also powerful enough to do whatever it wants to you, including kill you. And once the corrupt politicians have that power, THEY WILL USE IT.

Anyone who thinks that is paranoia is an abject moron with no understanding of history. Thanks again, NEA...

7 posted on 07/31/2009 1:50:36 AM PDT by piytar (Take back the language: Obama axing Chrystler dealers based on political donations is REAL fascism!)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Just another socialist power grab by the rats in the name of the good of the people...


8 posted on 07/31/2009 1:56:24 AM PDT by piytar (Take back the language: Obama axing Chrystler dealers based on political donations is REAL fascism!)
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To: arbooz

Has anybody sat down and figured out how much food borne illness would be stopped by these schemes, best case. I’d wager that almost all food borne illness comes not from a contaminated source but from mishandling at point of use. One possible plus is that this (if done right) would make it easier to combat attempts to sabotage a major food source, as in terrorism.


9 posted on 07/31/2009 1:59:14 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Democrat Party: a criminal organization masquerading as a political party)
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To: Jet Jaguar

There goes the local food movement, mostly liberals loved the local food movement.... organic farms? buh bye to most of them.


10 posted on 07/31/2009 2:09:46 AM PDT by GeronL (Guilty of the crime of deviationism.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

“With this being a Rat plan, there has to be at least a hundred things done wrong in it.”

Undoubtedly. How many pubics voted FOR this?


11 posted on 07/31/2009 2:13:31 AM PDT by Ben Chad
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To: Jet Jaguar

Probably part of the Health Kill Bill.


12 posted on 07/31/2009 3:29:07 AM PDT by mulligan
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To: Jet Jaguar

Unbelievable.

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h111-2749

His poll numbers will be -40 by Monday.


13 posted on 07/31/2009 3:38:29 AM PDT by NoObamaFightForConservatives (Obama, the first ever 3 in a half year, lame duck TOTUS)
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To: mulligan
This bill is a travesty. The power to isolate geographic territories and destroy all foods grown in those areas. A prohibition of sharing (not for profit) food grown locally.

You know, large agri-businesses are in bed with the government as they can absorb the costs of regulations and pass those costs on, while destroying their local competition; in turn the government gets a more dependent populace.

14 posted on 07/31/2009 3:38:37 AM PDT by Billg64 (It is my belief that this is our last opportunity to peacefully protect our republic.)
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To: Jet Jaguar
Obozo praised the bill soon after it was passed, calling it "a major step forward in modernizing our food safety system."

Because on the whole, this country and its food system isn't modern; according to the socialists, it sucks. We are stuck in prehistoric times--oh wait, here comes my neighbor, dragging a brontosaurus home that he must have caught with his spear today.
15 posted on 07/31/2009 3:43:56 AM PDT by Canedawg ( "Government cant make you happy or healthy or wealthy or wise." - S. Palin)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Because this bill will put great financial burdens on small farmers and producers, local food sources will quickly stop selling and growing. Food will be controled by large ‘ag groups’ (monsanto,adm,con-agra). Food is now a commodity like oil,gas,and water.

Every major food problem concerning safety in recent years has come from major ‘factory farms’, sent through nationwide distribution systems. This bill will increase that risk.

Local food produced and sold in regional rather than nation-wide systems would greatly reduce the risk of national risks to our food supply. (drought, germ infestations,terrorism. This bill will do just the opposite.

By the way; The congresswoman who sponsored the bill was Rosa deloro. Her husband is the leading lobbyist for Monsanto.


16 posted on 07/31/2009 3:44:44 AM PDT by maine yankee
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Yes and while it doesn't specifically target home gardens, the bill is worded in such a way that it would be possible for the government to have the power to tell you what you can grow.

They can have my zucchini when they pry it from my cold, dead hands!

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17 posted on 07/31/2009 3:49:31 AM PDT by prisoner6 (Right Wing Nuts hold the country together as the loose screws of the Left fall out.)
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To: Jet Jaguar
Congratulations, we now get to pay double for our food. which makes the production of Ethanol even more attractive because the fears of contamination do not exist.
18 posted on 07/31/2009 3:50:45 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (Give me LIBERTY or give me an M-24A2!)
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To: Jet Jaguar
The FDA regulates most foods, though as many as 15 federal agencies have a hand in food safety. The Agriculture Department inspects meats, poultry and some eggs.

All this shows is that even with 30 agencies, the Gov could not manage food safety, but it could kill an industry with paperwork. We do not a DMV of food.

If the people of the US want a food safety agency, so be it. But if 15 can't get it done, 16 is not the answer. The answer is firing the fifteen and starting over with one that had better get it right with a small team and efficient methods, or it will join its 15 friends on the unemployment line.

19 posted on 07/31/2009 3:55:11 AM PDT by Puddleglum ("due to the record harvest, rationing will continue as usual")
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To: Jet Jaguar
Unintended consequences:

How much cost will this add to our food? Isn't food expensive enough already?

I can already hear it now, 6 months or a year, or whatever amount of time when this has had it's chance to be implemented and food costs rise as a result, members of congress will get up and start complaining about gouging as if they are innocent bystanders.

20 posted on 07/31/2009 4:05:44 AM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing (. Beware change blindness The left needs it to complete their current task .)
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To: piytar

The electeds have become, for the most part, enemies of the people.

They have lots of company in the radical enclaves of the democratic party. There will never be reconciliation between those radicals and people who analyze what they have done.


21 posted on 07/31/2009 4:08:56 AM PDT by 2ndClassCitizen (Most of the Kenyan's friends hate capitalism, freedom, and whites.)
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To: Jet Jaguar

9 died from peanuts so we pass this law.
Over 250 have already died from H1N1 Flu (aka Swine Flu) but we couldn’t close the borders.

5000 die annually from food-related illness.
An estimated 50,000 or more will die this year from H1N1, but we couldn’t close the borders.**

How many die annually from Smoking?
How many die annually from Auto Accidents?

**The current CDC-reported death rate is over 0.5 percent, but I used a conservative rate of 0.5 percent, and a conservative estimate of 10 million people in the US contracting H1N1 during Flu season. In a normal flu season, between 10-30 million people contract the flu.


22 posted on 07/31/2009 4:19:19 AM PDT by BagCamAddict ("Wolverines!!")
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

Here are the Republicans who voted Aye

DE-0 Castle, Michael [R]
FL-4 Crenshaw, Ander [R]
FL-5 Brown-Waite, Virginia [R]
FL-9 Bilirakis, Gus [R]
FL-10 Young, C. W. [R]
FL-12 Putnam, Adam [R]
FL-13 Buchanan, Vern [R]
FL-18 Ros-Lehtinen, Ileana [R]
FL-21 Diaz-Balart, Lincoln [R]
FL-25 Diaz-Balart, Mario [R]
GA-9 Deal, Nathan [R]
GA-11 Gingrey, John [R]
IL-6 Roskam, Peter [R]
IL-10 Kirk, Mark [R]
IL-13 Biggert, Judy [R]
IL-19 Shimkus, John [R]
IN-4 Buyer, Stephen [R]
KY-1 Whitfield, Edward [R]
KY-2 Guthrie, Brett [R]
KY-5 Rogers, Harold [R]
LA-1 Scalise, Steve [R]
LA-2 Cao, Anh [R]
MI-3 Ehlers, Vernon [R]
MI-4 Camp, David [R]
MI-6 Upton, Frederick [R]
MI-8 Rogers, Michael [R]
MI-10 Miller, Candice [R]
MI-11 McCotter, Thaddeus [R]
MN-2 Kline, John [R]
MN-3 Paulsen, Erik [R]
MN-6 Bachmann, Michele [R]
NE-1 Fortenberry, Jeffrey [R]
NE-2 Terry, Lee [R]
NJ-2 LoBiondo, Frank [R]
NJ-4 Smith, Christopher [R]
NJ-7 Lance, Leonard [R]
NJ-11 Frelinghuysen, Rodney [R]
NY-3 King, Peter [R]
NY-23 McHugh, John [R]
NY-26 Lee, Christopher [R]
OH-3 Turner, Michael [R]
OH-12 Tiberi, Patrick [R]
OH-14 LaTourette, Steven [R]
OR-2 Walden, Greg [R]
PA-15 Dent, Charles [R]
PA-18 Murphy, Tim [R]
PA-19 Platts, Todd [R]
TX-6 Barton, Joe [R]
TX-26 Burgess, Michael [R]
VA-10 Wolf, Frank [R]
WA-8 Reichert, Dave [R]
WV-2 Capito, Shelley [R]


23 posted on 07/31/2009 4:25:07 AM PDT by Cheap_Hessian
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To: Jet Jaguar
How did your Rep vote?
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/vote.xpd?vote=h2009-680 Mine voted against it, I will call and thank him today
24 posted on 07/31/2009 4:32:13 AM PDT by stickandrudder (Another Bitter-Clinger --------------- Molon Labe)
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To: piytar
"It's incredible how stupid Americans have become,"

Don't believe the hype. We saw all this in the Clinton years. People start thinking "the people support this", and they DON'T. Polls are manipulated, and control is maintained by giving the IMPRESSION that people support what is going on.

Just like dressing Obama in an opposing team's shirt to explain the boos.

Don't believe the hype.

25 posted on 07/31/2009 4:34:58 AM PDT by chuck_the_tv_out (click my name)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Bump


26 posted on 07/31/2009 4:37:32 AM PDT by voicereason (I Don't Need SEX...I Get Screwed By Democrats Everyday!!!)
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To: stickandrudder

My rep, Lee Terry NE 2, voted for it... I will call too, but I won’t be thanking him.


27 posted on 07/31/2009 4:38:28 AM PDT by Cheap_Hessian
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To: Cheap_Hessian

While I disagree strongly with my Dem Rep’s (Pingree, ME-1) positions, she hit it right with this one. I did send her a note thanking her for her vote. (I fax her frequently - this is so far the only favorable fax.)


28 posted on 07/31/2009 4:53:34 AM PDT by NewHampshireDuo
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To: Jet Jaguar

As a food broker my life just got exponentially tougher.


29 posted on 07/31/2009 4:58:53 AM PDT by traderrob6
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To: Billg64
You know, large agri-businesses are in bed with the government as they can absorb the costs of regulations and pass those costs on, while destroying their local competition; in turn the government gets a more dependent populace.

IMO, this bill was sponsored by Agri-Business as a[nother] effort to suppress competition. Unless some rules have been changed, large-scale cattle operations only have to register/tag the herd AS A GROUP while smaller ranchers have to do that to EACH ANIMAL. There was even talk that the law is so loosely written as to give the govt control over your garden, let alone farmers' markets.

30 posted on 07/31/2009 5:00:31 AM PDT by Oatka ("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." –Bertrand de Jouvenel)
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To: Oatka
absolutely, even with a private garden, if an official is “suspicious” of a contamination in your garden, it can be “quarantined” or destroyed
31 posted on 07/31/2009 5:04:41 AM PDT by Billg64 (It is my belief that this is our last opportunity to peacefully protect our republic.)
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To: Oatka

You nailed it. That is exactly what this is. Big business using government to kill smaller competition.


32 posted on 07/31/2009 5:10:45 AM PDT by Cheap_Hessian
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To: Billg64

I’m not old enough to remember Victory Gardens, but man that must have been a time when even a Rat had some horse sense left.


33 posted on 07/31/2009 5:13:00 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Democrat Party: a criminal organization masquerading as a political party)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Government control of the food supply.


34 posted on 07/31/2009 5:16:06 AM PDT by TennTuxedo
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To: Jet Jaguar
"We are a nation built on the strength of individual initiative. But there are certain things that we can't do on our own. There are certain things that only a government can do. And one of those things is ensuring that the foods we eat …are safe and don't cause us harm."

- Barack Obama, March 14, 2009

Says the forked-tongued-fascist-commie-liar-in-chief.

This bill is a travesty. It effectively gives government control over our food supply in the name of "food safety."

USSA is going to hell in a hand basket at lightning speed.

35 posted on 07/31/2009 5:16:28 AM PDT by kara2008 (Government cannot be the solution when government is the problem)
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To: kara2008

“We are a nation built on the strength of individual initiative. But there are certain things that we can’t do on our own. There are certain things that only a government can do. And one of those things is eating.” — Brraaaaak Obama.


36 posted on 07/31/2009 5:19:08 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("If they taxed condoms and toilet paper, they'd have us coming and going." - Lazamataz, 2002)
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To: traderrob6

As you begin to get a handle on all the effects you’ll see from this, would you summarize and post them to this or another FR thread, please? And please ping me, because I’m very interested to know.


37 posted on 07/31/2009 5:19:47 AM PDT by savedbygrace (You are only leading if someone follows. Otherwise, you just wandered off... [Smokin' Joe])
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To: Jet Jaguar

Control the food, control the people. Not enough fingers in the dike people.


38 posted on 07/31/2009 5:22:40 AM PDT by Datahead
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To: Lazamataz

Let’s not spread disinformation. Do you have a link to that quote?


39 posted on 07/31/2009 5:27:37 AM PDT by traderrob6
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I’ve read that it is going to put thousands of small organic farms out of business due to the requirements of sterile soil and over zealous standards. It will also affect local farmers markets.


40 posted on 07/31/2009 5:27:48 AM PDT by Madam Theophilus
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To: Jet Jaguar
Our government has gone insane and is in the process of destroying the very foundation that it sits upon.

All the American people can do at this point is stall. Play stupid and act wisely by preparing for the total government control of our food sources.

Governments have done it time and time again. Control the food, weapons, medical resources and monetary supply...and you control the populace.

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Of the Simplicity of Criminal Laws in different Governments
In republican governments, men are all equal; equal they are also in despotic governments:
in the former, because they are everything; in the latter, because they are nothing.

The Spirit of the Laws - Book VI
By Charles de Secondat, Baron de Montesquieu

If, from the more wretched parts of the old world, we look at those which are in an advanced stage of improvement, we still find the greedy hand of government thrusting itself into every corner and crevice of industry, and grasping the spoil of the multitude. Invention is continually exercised, to furnish new pretenses for revenues and taxation. It watches prosperity as its prey and permits none to escape without tribute.
Thomas Paine, Rights of Man, 1791

41 posted on 07/31/2009 5:35:50 AM PDT by MamaTexan (We are NOT administrative, corporate, collective, legal, political or public entities or persons!)
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To: traderrob6
It was a pun.

....no, no, no, not a PUN, what's that thing what goes the same way backwards as forwards.

A *PALINDROME*!

42 posted on 07/31/2009 5:38:36 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("If they taxed condoms and toilet paper, they'd have us coming and going." - Lazamataz, 2002)
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To: traderrob6; Lazamataz
Most of the quote was word for word...just not the "eating" part.

We are a nation built on the strength of individual initiative. But there are certain things that we can’t do on our own. There are certain things that only a government can do. And one of those things is ensuring that the foods we eat …are safe and don’t cause us harm.

http://www.foodsafetyworkinggroup.gov/FSWG_Key_Findings.pdf

43 posted on 07/31/2009 5:48:49 AM PDT by Zeppelin (Where have you gone, Joe McCarthy, oh? A nation turns illiberel eyes to you...oo oo oo...)
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To: Jet Jaguar
This gives the FDA carte blanche to move into regulating anything produced for human consumption. It could mean the FDA will now set the standards for local food establishments. Want to enjoy a hot dog at your kid's soccer game prepared by parents as a fund raiser..don't bet on that being allowed. The Amish selling home made pies and preserves at a roadside stand...not without federal inspection. Farmer's markets...not allowed under FDA rules. Wait until the FDA takes on nutritional standards.
44 posted on 07/31/2009 6:09:59 AM PDT by The Great RJ ("The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money." M. Thatcher)
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To: Jet Jaguar
The government estimates that 76 million people each year are sickened by food-borne illness, hundreds of thousands are hospitalized and around 5,000 die.

Anyone have any idea what they might be basing these "estimates" on? AFAIK, I have never been "sickened by food-borne illness," and I'm not even especially careful!

45 posted on 07/31/2009 6:31:47 AM PDT by maryz
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To: Jet Jaguar

It won’t get 60 votes in the senate.


46 posted on 07/31/2009 6:32:31 AM PDT by St. Louis Conservative
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To: Jet Jaguar

He who controls the food supply...


47 posted on 07/31/2009 6:42:57 AM PDT by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
Unintended consequences:

Oh, they're intended.

48 posted on 07/31/2009 6:45:55 AM PDT by glock rocks (health care, gun safety and climate change are strawmen. It's all about CONTROL.)
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To: The Great RJ

I expect this to be widely ignored at the gardener/farm market/fundraiser level. There will be test cases as some people who are affected sue the inspectors.

This is reminiscent of the laws regulating childrens’ items, which began to affect even yard sales. I believe regulatory changes were made after a lot of citizen anger. Please correct me if that is not so.

Personally, I have already begun to give away container vegetable plants to anyone who wants one, with advice on how to grow them, both indoors and out. I do expect this law to increase the prices on all fruits and vegetables. I know farmers who raise beef for people on an individual basis. The consumer buys the beef, the farmer keeps it in pasture until slaughter, the consumer is responsible for the processing. I believe as long as the numbers of beef involved per farmer are quite low, there is no regulatory involvement. We have many small processing plants out here and a new one is being built right now. Whatever the regulations, they did not prevent this business from forming. A lot of folks have chickens and eggs are commonly given away Spring to Fall. I see no way to stop this.

Most of the farmers and ag business folks out here voted for zerO, especially the largest organic co-ops.


49 posted on 07/31/2009 6:48:18 AM PDT by reformedliberal (Are we at high crimes or misdemeanors, yet?)
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To: TennTuxedo

Control the food...control the people.


50 posted on 07/31/2009 7:09:14 AM PDT by ladyvet (WOLVERINES!!!!!)
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