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Town halls gone wild
politico.com ^ | July 31, 2009 | ALEX ISENSTADT

Posted on 07/31/2009 3:46:58 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

Illustration by Matt Wuerker

Screaming constituents, protesters dragged out by the cops, congressmen fearful for their safety — welcome to the new town-hall-style meeting, the once-staid forum that is rapidly turning into a house of horrors for members of Congress.

On the eve of the August recess, members are reporting meetings that have gone terribly awry, marked by angry, sign-carrying mobs and disruptive behavior. In at least one case, a congressman has stopped holding town hall events because the situation has spiraled so far out of control.

“I had felt they would be pointless,” Rep. Tim Bishop (D-N.Y.) told POLITICO, referring to his recent decision to suspend the events in his Long Island district. “There is no point in meeting with my constituents and [to] listen to them and have them listen to you if what is basically an unruly mob prevents you from having an intelligent conversation.”

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1 posted on 07/31/2009 3:46:58 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives
*smiles*.....they didn't listen, they hid and wished it would go away.
2 posted on 07/31/2009 3:48:53 AM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

“In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.”

Declaration of Independence. July 4, 1776.


3 posted on 07/31/2009 3:50:09 AM PDT by KitJ (Shall Not Be Infringed)
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

[There is no point in meeting with my constituents and [to] listen to them and have them listen to you if what is basically an unruly mob prevents you from having an intelligent conversation.”]

Translation from liberal speak to english;
I refuse to hear what the people say because I am a liberal elitist and know whats best for them even if it hurts them.


4 posted on 07/31/2009 3:52:36 AM PDT by kindred (A third party of conservatives only is the only answer. You can not put new wine in old wineskin's.)
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives
“I had felt they would be pointless,” Rep. Tim Bishop (D-N.Y.) told POLITICO, referring to his recent decision to suspend the events in his Long Island district. “There is no point in meeting with my constituents and [to] listen to them and have them listen to you if what is basically an unruly mob prevents you from having an intelligent conversation.”

Translation: "The demands of the President and my Party's leaders conflict with the demands of my constituents and I am such a spineless, power-hungry individual that I do not want to explain to my constituents that I would rather keep my power and position than do the job they elected me to do. Therefore I will accuse them of being unintelligent and refuse to meet with them."

He simply should have utilized this time-honored line: "Let them eat cake."

5 posted on 07/31/2009 3:53:06 AM PDT by Abundy
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To: All

They have not even officially went on break yet.

I think that they are making this crap up early to avoid having to answer to anybody.

CNN is using Saul Alinsky like tactics.

Last night Fox News froze as well as several other channels and the only news I could watch was CNN.
No joke! I was shocked.

CNN has a ‘Wingnut’ Analyst that last night called all ‘birthers’ ‘truthers’ and people saying granny and mommy will die under 0bama’s health care are as nuts as the ‘birthers’ and ‘truthers.’ CNN presented ObamaCare as the next best thing to milk and cookies all awhile never reporting 0bama’s failures or horrible approval numbers plummeting.

Furthermore, the MSM will paint all protesters voters against ObamaCare as “WINGNUTS.”

It is frightening the MSM are working for 0bama but it won’t work anymore. People are sick of it and see through it all!


6 posted on 07/31/2009 3:53:27 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Obama, the first ever 3 in a half year, lame duck TOTUS)
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

The assholes have yet to acknowledge that the folks do not like what they are doing.

People are angry out there, that should give these clowns a clue.


7 posted on 07/31/2009 3:53:43 AM PDT by dforest (Who is the real Jim Thompson? I am.)
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives
“There is no point in meeting with my constituents and [to] listen to them and have them listen to you if what is basically an unruly mob prevents you from having an intelligent conversation.”

I think he may be trying to define some sort of difference between, on the one hand, his "constituents" and, on the other hand, "the mob".

Does he know that they are one and the same?

8 posted on 07/31/2009 3:54:11 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

How convenient for them to say that town hall gatherings are now “dangerous”. How convenient.


9 posted on 07/31/2009 3:55:47 AM PDT by SaintDismas
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To: kindred
“Translation from liberal speak to english;
I refuse to hear what the people say because I am a liberal elitist and know whats best for them even if it hurts them.”

Very well stated.

10 posted on 07/31/2009 3:56:10 AM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: pieceofthepuzzle

Yes, exactly and don’t forget to add to this that they will paint all protesters (some even ticked off at 0bama democrats) as WINGNUTS. That is their new ‘cue word.’


12 posted on 07/31/2009 3:59:07 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Obama, the first ever 3 in a half year, lame duck TOTUS)
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

If, they weren’t such lying scum buckers; just maybe the voters wouldn’t be mad.


13 posted on 07/31/2009 3:59:19 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives
The targets in most cases are House Democrats, who over the past few months have tackled controversial legislation including a $787 billion economic stimulus package, a landmark energy proposal and an overhaul of the nation’s health care system.

And if you read all of the story, you'll find that they are trying to run away from their pissed-off constituents, find creative ways of shutting them up, or else siccing the cops on them.

14 posted on 07/31/2009 3:59:26 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: SaintDismas

Exactly. You hit the nail directly on the head.


15 posted on 07/31/2009 4:00:14 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Obama, the first ever 3 in a half year, lame duck TOTUS)
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To: pieceofthepuzzle

Zero if I vote for this I will need Acorn


16 posted on 07/31/2009 4:00:18 AM PDT by scooby321
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

I saw the Tim Bishop town hall. He was totally outclassed by his constituency, but it was not “an unruly mob”. The only thing preventing him from having an “intelligent conversation” was his obvious lack of intelligence.

Regards,


17 posted on 07/31/2009 4:00:57 AM PDT by VermiciousKnid (Grab your gun and bring in the cat.)
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To: indylindy

These clowns won’t get it until 2010, and then they still won’t get it. I think the 2010 midterm elections are going to be bloodbath for those that think they know better than We The People.


18 posted on 07/31/2009 4:02:46 AM PDT by Lilyjuslan
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

Just because they are not going to have town hall meetings now they sealed their fate in being voted out of office so they better enjoy their island beach houses while they can.


20 posted on 07/31/2009 4:04:40 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Obama, the first ever 3 in a half year, lame duck TOTUS)
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

Given the performance of Congress lately, they should consider themselves fortunate that people aren/t showing up with torches and pitchforks.

Tar, feathers, and a rail come to mind as an acceptable alternative.


21 posted on 07/31/2009 4:04:54 AM PDT by Rockhound
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

I think we’re protesting at the wrong places.

Democrat congressmen don’t listen to us anyway. They aren’t scared as much as they should be.

We should be protesting at media locales, TV stations, Newspapers, NPR broadcast studios, ...

Scare the crap out of all of them.


22 posted on 07/31/2009 4:05:30 AM PDT by eCSMaster
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

Last fall, Congress passed TARP over the objection of some 3/4 of the voting public...

In the November election, incumbents were returned to office in near-record numbers...

We-the-people have demonstrated to our ‘elected servants’ that they can safely ignore us without electoral consequence..

As we sow, so shall we reap.....


23 posted on 07/31/2009 4:05:49 AM PDT by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Exactly. You pointed out the media spin for them quite well.


24 posted on 07/31/2009 4:07:17 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Obama, the first ever 3 in a half year, lame duck TOTUS)
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To: eCSMaster

Unplug your TV - from what I gather on FR the propaganda on the teevee has gone into high gear. Let the teevee go dark - just like we’ve stopped buying newspapers. That message will be heard loud and clear.


25 posted on 07/31/2009 4:08:43 AM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: VermiciousKnid

VIDEO:Congressman Tim Bishop Encounters Angry Citizens at Townhall Meeting


26 posted on 07/31/2009 4:10:28 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Obama, the first ever 3 in a half year, lame duck TOTUS)
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To: Uncle Ike
An excellent observation. I've lost all faith in the ballot box. I'm not sure if the problem is that:

1) The majority of voters are hopeless idiots who will always support the incumbent, OR
2) The electoral process is completely corrupt, and they don't really count votes anymore.

Either could be true. But either way, it sure seems like a waste of time for me to show up and vote. (Note: I haven't missed an election since 1978 -- but I'm not that interested in future outings.)

28 posted on 07/31/2009 4:11:31 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: snippy_about_it

PING


29 posted on 07/31/2009 4:11:34 AM PDT by SAMWolf (The difference between God and Barack Obama is that God doesn't think he's Barack Obama)
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To: ClearCase_guy

>>(Note: I haven’t missed an election since 1978 — but I’m not that interested in future outings.) <<

I’m with you.

Then guilt sinks in. If I vote, at least I can say I showed up.


30 posted on 07/31/2009 4:16:01 AM PDT by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives
Yup, that's the one. Here's more, for those who'd like to see it. This is only Part One. There is a Part Two, as well!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOLs7Cybnqw&feature=related

Regards,

31 posted on 07/31/2009 4:16:30 AM PDT by VermiciousKnid (Grab your gun and bring in the cat.)
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To: kindred

>>Translation from liberal speak to english;
>>I refuse to hear what the people say because I am a liberal elitist and know whats best for them even if it hurts them.

The really sad part is that we’d be more supportive if they told the truth and asked everyone to sacrifice (from taxing the rich to cutting benefits to the poor) to fix the nation. But, all they ever bring home is their divisive politics that require one group to sacrifice for the “needs” of another. Even when they talk about bills that are supposed to “save the planet”, they quickly point out that someone else will have to do the suffering. Our political class doesn’t know what America stands for anymore and that’s why we greet them with anger and hostility. The consider themselves to be nobility and then wonder why the peasants hate them.


32 posted on 07/31/2009 4:16:55 AM PDT by Bryanw92 (Question O-thority!)
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

Yeah, those people in that video were sure unruly. /s

Bishop can go straight to hell.


33 posted on 07/31/2009 4:17:50 AM PDT by dforest (Who is the real Jim Thompson? I am.)
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

Not buying this crap......proabably TWO people didn’t bow down to the Congressman, and asked a serious question! HOW AWFUL!!


34 posted on 07/31/2009 4:19:48 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: BigCinBigD

Cool it.


35 posted on 07/31/2009 4:21:43 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Lilyjuslan

unfortunately, the republican clowns don’t get it either. They run rinos and “moderates” to appeal to the “center”


36 posted on 07/31/2009 4:22:05 AM PDT by Billg64 (It is my belief that this is our last opportunity to peacefully protect our republic.)
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To: VermiciousKnid
-- I saw the Tim Bishop town hall. He was totally outclassed by his constituency, but it was not "an unruly mob". The only thing preventing him from having an "intelligent conversation" was his obvious lack of intelligence. --

"Out of control" means "unable to control the narrative," not "unable to control the crowd."

At some point, and I don't have a sense of how far in the future, civil society is going to break down. The insistence on the part of politicians to "control the narrative" will bring about, will CAUSE, civil unrest. Throw them out of office.

37 posted on 07/31/2009 4:22:13 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: VermiciousKnid

VIDEO:TIM BISHOP PROTEST, SETAUKET, NY (part one)

VIDEO: (Part Two)


38 posted on 07/31/2009 4:22:31 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Obama, the first ever 3 in a half year, lame duck TOTUS)
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

How come MY links never, ever work?

Thank you, NoObama.

Regards,


39 posted on 07/31/2009 4:23:37 AM PDT by VermiciousKnid (Grab your gun and bring in the cat.)
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

“...what is basically an unruly mob prevents you from having an intelligent conversation.”

We tried intelligent conversation. You didn’t listen then, either.


40 posted on 07/31/2009 4:23:54 AM PDT by oblomov (Every election is a sort of advance auction sale of stolen goods. - Mencken)
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To: eCSMaster

If they’re afraid of a few signs and a couple loud protesters, how will they react when the masses show up with ‘torches and pitchforks’ ?


41 posted on 07/31/2009 4:26:24 AM PDT by maine yankee
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To: KitJ

Great quote, thanks


42 posted on 07/31/2009 4:27:07 AM PDT by maine yankee
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives
“We’ve seen Russ Carnahan, we’ve seen Tim Bishop, we’ve seen some other people face some very different crowds back home,” said National Republican Congressional Committee Chairman Pete Sessions (R-Texas). “The days of you having a town hall meeting where maybe 15 or 20 of your friends show up — they’re over. You’ve now got real people who are showing up — and that’s going to be a factor.”
43 posted on 07/31/2009 4:27:19 AM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives
Incumbents are in deep doo doo... in both parties.

LLS

44 posted on 07/31/2009 4:27:21 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (hussama will never be my president... NEVER!)
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To: VermiciousKnid

When links are posted out right copy and pasted if they are not separate from a sentence they don’t seem to work.

Try this... do this without spaces by this < and the “a’s”

< a href=”COPY AND PASTE URL (THE LINK) HERE”> Video Click Here < /a >


45 posted on 07/31/2009 4:27:46 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Obama, the first ever 3 in a half year, lame duck TOTUS)
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To: BigCinBigD

Why did you say that? That is ignorant and defeats our purpose of peace in protesting.


46 posted on 07/31/2009 4:29:36 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Obama, the first ever 3 in a half year, lame duck TOTUS)
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To: BigCinBigD

Posts like that are what O’Reilly and the MSM live for. Don’t go there.


47 posted on 07/31/2009 4:30:20 AM PDT by Kieri (The Conservatrarian)
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To: Ann Archy

Thank you. Do you ever wonder if DU.. KOS... dummies purposely post ignorant things like that so the media can say falsely we are hate filled wingnuts?


48 posted on 07/31/2009 4:31:53 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Obama, the first ever 3 in a half year, lame duck TOTUS)
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives
The video was incredible. Thank you for posting. Those people at the Bishop Rally are my HEROS.

I am so inspired after seeing the video.

Bishop is weak and a coward. He has no respect for his voters. We need to vote him out of office.

49 posted on 07/31/2009 4:34:43 AM PDT by joygrace
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

Little Rickey Boucher of Va’s 9th cong. district found out the folks aren’t happy. Had a town hall meeting in Max Meadows, Va. He started off with a :30 min. talk of how wonderful things are and how He and congress are going to improve the world. Then the questions came, Why do you simply rubber stamp bills without reading them. “Well, you just don’t understand.” That set the crowd off and I do believe he was a tad scared. Not one happy camper in the crowd.


50 posted on 07/31/2009 4:36:11 AM PDT by JamesA (He who hesitates is lost.)
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