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Minn. Gov: GOP must welcome others, broaden base
AP ^ | July 31, 2009 | MICHAEL R. BLOOD

Posted on 07/31/2009 8:42:23 AM PDT by DanZanRyu

Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty on Thursday urged fellow Republicans to welcome outsiders into the party ranks, not scorn them, as the GOP rebuilds from defeats that left the White House and Congress in Democratic hands.

The potential 2012 presidential candidate, addressing a meeting of the Republican National Committee, appealed to members to build bridges to independents and conservative-leaning Democrats that would win converts and, in turn, elections.

To move forward at a time when Republican numbers are shrinking in many states, the party should show "respect of those who don't agree with us," Pawlenty said. "Let's make sure that we welcome others who are not yet Republicans."

The speech came in the midst of an organizational meeting in which party leaders are discussing ways to repair their dented brand, lure back big-dollar contributors and identify and train a new generation of Republican candidates.

The meeting follows a difficult stretch for the GOP. Sen. John Ensign of Nevada and South Carolina Gov. Mark Sanford, once seen as rising stars, have been damaged by extramarital affairs; Democrat Al Franken ousted Republican Norm Coleman in Minnesota's Senate race; and moderate Pennsylvania Sen. Arlen Specter became a Democrat.

Echoing Pawlenty, Republican Chairman Michael Steele said the GOP needs to get back in touch with average Americans by stressing the party's traditional values, from tightfisted spending to strong national security.

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1 posted on 07/31/2009 8:42:23 AM PDT by DanZanRyu
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To: DanZanRyu

Gee people, we had open borders, big tent John McCain again the most liberal candidate ever. Isn’t that enough? The Democrats don’t worry about having a big tent do they?


2 posted on 07/31/2009 8:44:50 AM PDT by GeronL (Guilty of the crime of deviationism.)
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To: DanZanRyu

ugh, another thread about McCain.


3 posted on 07/31/2009 8:45:19 AM PDT by dforest (Who is the real Jim Thompson? I am.)
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To: DanZanRyu

Not only no, but HELL NO.


4 posted on 07/31/2009 8:45:55 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: DanZanRyu

The big tent mentality is what sank the OP wing of the Republicrat party in previous elections.


5 posted on 07/31/2009 8:46:00 AM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! FairTaxNation.com)
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To: DanZanRyu
"Echoing Pawlenty, Republican Chairman Michael Steele said the GOP needs to get back in touch with average Americans by stressing the party's traditional values, from tightfisted spending to strong national security."

"traditional values"????? Does that mean CONSERVATIVE values?

6 posted on 07/31/2009 8:46:12 AM PDT by goodnesswins (Tell everyone, DEMS are the RACISTS...they created the KKK and Jim Crow Laws...to start)
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To: DanZanRyu

We’ve broadened our base so much we can no longer fit in the Republican chair.


7 posted on 07/31/2009 8:47:16 AM PDT by madison10
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To: DanZanRyu

Pawlenty is a little late to this stupid idea. This silly canard has been shot several times and kicked and beaten like the dead horse it is. The GOP needs to stand on principle and welcome people who agree with those principles but for some reason these idiots like Pawlenty go off with the idea as if the GOP is less accepting than the Democrat party or some how has a problem welcoming people into the fold. I don’t believe this at all. I do believe we should hit the ground more and invite our friends and neighbors to conservative events. Turn the soft independents into conservatives not welcome soft independents into the party so they can make us more soft.


8 posted on 07/31/2009 8:50:49 AM PDT by Maelstorm (Why are those who claim to have open minds so afraid of open debate?)
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To: DanZanRyu

I have listened to Pawlenty and he sounds like a semi-squishy right of center pol. Much in the mold of the two Bushes. So his advice, while he is free to give it, is worth ignoring.


9 posted on 07/31/2009 8:53:12 AM PDT by scory
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To: Maelstorm

It is the LACK of a clear difference to the Demoncrats that is the current weakness of the GOP.Many people don’t bother to vote already,based on the observation “there’s no difference between the two parties”.


10 posted on 07/31/2009 8:54:20 AM PDT by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a credit card?)
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To: DanZanRyu
As Reagan said (paraphrasing) - "We welcome others who support our conservative agenda."
11 posted on 07/31/2009 8:55:16 AM PDT by newfreep ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." - P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: DanZanRyu

Just a heads up. I live in Minnesota. Pawlenty, is McCain lite. Green to the core RINO. Pushed clean water act, after having only 14% of Minnesotas water tested. Pawlenty championed, and supported this new tax. In the end the bulk of the tax revenue is going to the arts, and social programs. Not to clean water. He’s laughably testing the presidential waters. Seriously, does anyone in their right mind want to support a candidate from Minnesota, given our history of elected representtatives.


12 posted on 07/31/2009 8:55:41 AM PDT by 724th
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To: DanZanRyu

We should welcome moderates and RINOs to vote for conservative candidates, but not compromise on the issues to attract them.

IOW, convince them, “You agree with us on 80% of 65% or even 51% of issues, so vote for us despite the things you don’t agree on.”


13 posted on 07/31/2009 8:56:08 AM PDT by Above My Pay Grade
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To: DanZanRyu

RINO alert. Becoming more like the Dem party is not the answer unless we just want to become another wing of the Dem Party.


14 posted on 07/31/2009 8:57:12 AM PDT by kabar
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To: DanZanRyu

Next time, please put “RINO alert” in brackets next to the article’s title.


15 posted on 07/31/2009 8:57:53 AM PDT by RicocheT
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To: DanZanRyu
The GOP is open to anyone that believes in LOW TAXES, LIMITED GOVERNMENT and STRONG NATIONAL DEFENSE.

Isn't that "open" enough?

16 posted on 07/31/2009 8:57:57 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob
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To: DanZanRyu

Q. Why does the GOP reach out to liberals instead of to conservative Democrats as Reagan did?

A. Because liberals also believe in exporting jobs.


17 posted on 07/31/2009 8:59:45 AM PDT by ex-snook ("Above all things, truth beareth away the victory.")
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To: Cowboy Bob

Traditional values? If you preach that then you get accused of being intolerant and hateful.

I am not the first to say it but it is true: President Reagan got Democrats and independents to vote for him not because he changed his message to accommodate them. He made them realize how much in common they had with us! That is a winning formula, IMO.


18 posted on 07/31/2009 9:00:13 AM PDT by TNCMAXQ
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To: DanZanRyu

I comnpletely reject the notion that conservatives do not reach out and push for a “big tent.” Ronald Reagan was one of the most inclusive presidents in American history, he won 49 out of 50 States in 1984 losing only, ironically for Mr. Pawlenty, MN.


19 posted on 07/31/2009 9:00:46 AM PDT by moose2004 (Stand up, speak out and stop Obamacare and GE)
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To: DanZanRyu
BS. Obama is the most openly hard-left president we've ever had and the so-called moderates voted for him. Conservative have to state our case unequivocally in order to draw more people into the tent. Strength draws people, especially Americans. Weakness begets more weakness.
20 posted on 07/31/2009 9:00:46 AM PDT by Dr. Thorne (Buy Gold and Guns Now!)
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To: DanZanRyu

Minnesotans has no business giving advice for anything to anyone.

You twits elected a hack comedian for pete’s sake.


21 posted on 07/31/2009 9:01:23 AM PDT by VanDeKoik (Iran doesnt have a 2nd admendment. Ya see how that turned out?)
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To: DanZanRyu

It’s AP - so of course the story starts with the loaded and biased premise “GOP does NOT welcome outsiders” (whatever that means) and proceeds from there.


22 posted on 07/31/2009 9:03:55 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: VanDeKoik
Minnesotans has no business giving advice for anything to anyone.

You twits elected a hack comedian for pete’s sake.

So well said, it's worth repeating.

23 posted on 07/31/2009 9:03:57 AM PDT by exit82 (Sarah Palin is President No. 45. Get behind her, GOP, or get out of the way.)
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To: DanZanRyu

The Republican Party must:

1- Articulate a sound, conservative set of values and beliefs
2- Articulate a clear picture of their vision for America
3- Identify the leftist sympathizing RINOs and throw their a$$es OUT OF THE PARTY!!


24 posted on 07/31/2009 9:04:12 AM PDT by RatRipper (I HATE tax & spend politicians)
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To: Dr. Thorne

Weakness begets more weakness.

^^^
AMEN!


25 posted on 07/31/2009 9:05:00 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Palin in 2012)
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To: DanZanRyu
Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty on Thursday urged fellow Republicans to welcome outsiders into the party ranks, not scorn them,

Could you elaborate, Governor? Who are these outsiders who want into the party, but are being scorned instead of welcomed?

That's the problem with this sort of very general criticism. They never give us the specifics. I'm afraid this is just a veiled way of saying we must find different ways to pander to different groups, the stupid policy that was pursued from 2004 through 2008. The Governor seems to be suggesting even more of the same.

26 posted on 07/31/2009 9:05:00 AM PDT by Will88
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To: DanZanRyu

BlueNgold to Minn Gov:
You, Sir, are sadly lost in the world of elective politics and you no longer understand the people of this great nation. What the GOP needs most is to do a better job of messaging. The trick is not to try to be more ‘popular’ with the ‘cool kids’. The winning strategy is to be consistent, clear, and conservative. People need to hear from US what we think and what we would like to do. We wont accomplish anything by trying to compromise with as many people as possible - but we can accomplish great things if we take on the task of getting out in front of the people and convincing them to join us based on message and clear goals. And then we need to follow through! Our elected leaders in D.C. have largely lost their way, and become convinced that what people talk about at D.C. dinner parties is what people discuss on Main Street. The group-think liberal elite have tainted conservatism horribly.

Another suggestion the Gov: This should be mandatory reading for any GOP elected official at any level, and it is clear you haven’t read it in a while (if ever).

Ronald Reagan, March 1, 1975, CPAC.
“Let Them Go Their Way”
http://reagan2020.us/speeches/Let_Them_Go_Their_Way.asp


27 posted on 07/31/2009 9:06:53 AM PDT by BlueNgold (... Feed the tree!)
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To: DanZanRyu
Minn. Gov: GOP must welcome others

???

I don't understand... obviously the GOP should welcome EVERYBODY who believes in smaller government, lower taxes, controlled borders, and adherence to the US Constitution. What on earth is this pantload Pawlenty talking about? Is he saying that the GOP does NOT welcome everybody with those basic principles?

28 posted on 07/31/2009 9:08:52 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: DanZanRyu

Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty should clean up his own house before lecturing the GOP on how to clean theirs. With Senators Amy Klobuchar and (the very fraudulently elected fraud) Al Franken, I don’t think he has any room from which to speak!


29 posted on 07/31/2009 9:11:20 AM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: 724th

I wouldn’t vote for anybody from Minnesota. Just remember, you let Coleman sink and let Franken swim. Any state that supports Al Franken doesn’t have their heads screwed on right.


30 posted on 07/31/2009 9:12:14 AM PDT by RobertoinAL
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To: DanZanRyu

Nothing wrong with inviting new folks in, as long as it’s made clear that the principles of the Republican party will not change to suit them.


31 posted on 07/31/2009 9:12:42 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: DanZanRyu
Conservatives welcome.

All others, go over to the Democrats where you belong.

32 posted on 07/31/2009 9:14:03 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Muslims reserve the right to kill anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: DanZanRyu
Republicans have opened up so much that Colin Powell, a man who has never, as far as I've been able to tell, voted for a Republican presidential candidate is considered a party spokesman. Meghan McCain is another "inclusive" Republican. You know she'd be a real vote getter on the Republican stump.

Now, in one sense, I agree with Romney. He was hammered by some over being a Mormon. I would have a lot of trouble voting for Romney, but that's mostly because of his chameleon type ability to adopt any position at the time it becomes convenient. However, on the Mormonism, a lot of that was ginned up by the press to fan what they knew would be concern by conservative Christians and Catholics. The thing is though, that the concern was there. There IS a difference between conservatives and liberals, in that conservatives will throw people overboard very quickly, while liberals will vote for Satan himself if he'll vote the way they want.

William Jefferson and Ted Kennedy are examples. If either of them had been Republicans, they'd have been hounded out of office the next round of elections after their scandals. Kennedy killed a girl and Jefferson had $90,000 in bribe money in his freezer. Larry Craig got bounced from Congress for moving his foot too far in a restroom stall.

33 posted on 07/31/2009 9:14:27 AM PDT by Richard Kimball (We're all criminals. They just haven't figured out what some of us have done yet.)
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To: DanZanRyu
Paraphrasing: "Most men move to the Center. Great men move the Center..."

TPaw is moving to the Center. The Center the Left has concertedly been moving ever Leftward.

We need someone to push us back to the Right. Palin is one, Jindal apparently another.

34 posted on 07/31/2009 9:17:52 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (III)
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To: DanZanRyu

translation: RINOs in trouble.

Only way for RINOs to survive is to homogenize the parties even more.

McCain is proof positive that beltway culture is a serious delusion and a formula for dead end candidates.

no more dole
no more mccain


35 posted on 07/31/2009 9:20:17 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: DanZanRyu

Epic fail from Tim “I shrunk the MN GOP” Pawlenty.


36 posted on 07/31/2009 9:26:23 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: DanZanRyu

Yep, the Republican party should open it’s tent to all. Become more & more like the Democrat party. Darn I thought that is what they have been doing for the past 15 years or so. I’ll bet they could get more votes if they just changed their name. They could become the Democrat-Lite party. They sure as hell ain’t the Republican party I was a member of for 30+ years. (key word there is WAS)


37 posted on 07/31/2009 9:28:05 AM PDT by Tupelo
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To: All

these are FAILED republicans.

They do not teach conservative principles.

they only surrender.

OBAMA IS A FAILURE
DEMOCRATS ARE A FAILURE
THIS IS A TEACHABLE FACT

the rinos only dream of grabbing their ankles in surrender.


38 posted on 07/31/2009 9:29:39 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: DanZanRyu

Ha! Ha! Ha!.

Pawlenty just outed himself as the Moderate he is.


39 posted on 07/31/2009 9:29:58 AM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: GeronL
"The Democrats don’t worry about having a big tent do they?"

That's right.

"Tolerance" in the Democratic Party is for anyone who faithfully repeats all the Articles of Faith-- beginning with Article One:a sworn allegiance to killing babies.

"Tolerance" has a place in liberalism like "peace" does in Islam: It's a useful weapon to make inroads on your enemies, but is discarded as soon as power is at hand. Then only a monopoly is acceptable, even with their enemies--who must appease them as demanded or be stamped out.

It doesn't matter who you are or what you do, as long as you're committed to the liberal ideology.

Why should Republicans not be allowed to have some identifying beliefs as well?

Anyone who is committed to Conservative principles is welcome.

Anyone who isn't committed to conservatism is a Democrat by default, though some like Colin Powell, John McCain and Pawlenty insist upon calling themselves Republicans.

In their desperation to be popular with the liberal media THEY are the ones causing confusion.

Rather than insist they be given free reign to make the Republican Party the "Blue Dog" Democrat Party, they should just take the "big tent" obsession to the place where anything goes.

Now that the Democrat Party is dominated by what was not long ago considered treasonous radical left ideology, posers like Pawlenty and McCain could provide some sanity and make "big tent" mean something more than just skin color and lifestyles.

The Pawlenty's should grow some testes and admit they're Democrats in sheep's clothing already and stop whining about the need to make the Republican Party the Democrat Party Lite.

We don't need a party whose reason for being is to be appeasers to the Left so they can feel good about themselves for "tolerating" the facade of a 2 party system.

Let there be 2 real alternatives in principles and policies for voters to choose between-- popularity with the liberal media be damned.

Then let's see who is "fundamentally reshaping America" because "I won".

40 posted on 07/31/2009 9:38:40 AM PDT by TheClintons-STILLAnti-American (E)
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To: GeronL

“Gee people, we had open borders, big tent John McCain again the most liberal candidate ever. Isn’t that enough? The Democrats don’t worry about having a big tent do they?”

Excellent, he’s clearing the field (of himself) for Sarah.


41 posted on 07/31/2009 9:44:12 AM PDT by BobL
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To: DanZanRyu
to welcome outsiders

why would statists and socialists want to join a party that appears to be in favor of limited government and capitalism? They already have their own party

42 posted on 07/31/2009 9:46:52 AM PDT by mjp (pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, independence, limited government, capitalism})
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To: DanZanRyu
An unprincipled man will stand for anything and everything in an effort to attract others.

The principled one stands only for things worth standing for, and trusts people to be attracted to him.

43 posted on 07/31/2009 9:48:24 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life.)
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To: TNCMAXQ

” President Reagan got Democrats and independents to vote for him not because he changed his message to accommodate them. He made them realize how much in common they had with us!”

Bingo.
The Republicans project such an image of weakness and groveling with stupid remarks like this.
They validate the false stereotypes planted by the media and the Dems ( who are the most intolerant group, ever.)
Republicans who act like Timidity Pawlenty-
inarticulate , fragile and easily rolled -damage the party and the cause.
I am so sick of weak and easily frightened elected Republicans.


44 posted on 07/31/2009 9:49:08 AM PDT by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: Maelstorm
Pawlenty is a little late to this stupid idea.

There is nothing wrong with rebuilding the Reagan coalition. Real Blue Dogs should be given a reason to vote for conservative candidates and thanks to Chairman Zero, there has never been a better chance for conservatives to remind them that the Democrat Party has left the dems who voted for Reagan. Appeal to moderates is a secondary goal -- it must be made abundantly clear to those in charge of the GOP that the conservative base will not be fooled again.

45 posted on 07/31/2009 9:50:37 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (You're either in or in the way.)
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To: DanZanRyu

Sure. Party power is more important the principles! Accept everybody!


46 posted on 07/31/2009 9:52:52 AM PDT by Little Ray (Do we have a Plan B?)
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To: Little Ray

Rinos are trying to make room for themselves to justify their takeover of the GOP and making it into a permanent minority party. The story goes, it’s not their fault the party they are leading is a minority...it’s fault of the “extremists” who won’t shut up and follow them in that liberal/socialist pup tent they occupy.

They are totally freaked out that the GOP has lost so many voters since the Rinodom took over the GOP. They are scared of losing it all in the next election because “extremists” won’t vote for them anymore. Liberals vote for Democrats and conservatives vote for small government, economic freedom constitutionalists. Rinos are big government Liberals.

We’ve been through this before when the GOP was a permanent minority party led by Rinos. They want that silent majority to stay that way in representation and power but vote for them as the lessor of two evils. Good luck with that Rinos!

Big government water melon Arnie is about as popular as a STD in California and that state is as “Rino” as you can get. This is the condition of the GOP in the Rino’s control and leadership.


47 posted on 07/31/2009 11:10:40 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: SaraJohnson

I’m not sure what conservatives are going to do when half the population no longer pays taxes AND the Federal Government is the largest employer in the country. What the heck do we have to offer these people? They do not want freedom - they want “free stuff” and do not care how it is paid for since they are not paying.

All I know is “Democrat Lite” is not the way to go.


48 posted on 07/31/2009 11:40:18 AM PDT by Little Ray (Do we have a Plan B?)
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To: Little Ray

The half voting themselves free stuff is going to run out of other people’s money.

Then the Left will go after them rather than cut government spending. Watch. It is happening right now as revenues fall and services (free stuff) increases.

New York State just raised taxes on the “rich” to cover their budget deficit. Revenue projections were way short on this scheme and now they have a 2 billion deficit to contend with.

The rich are tapped out with the last huge tax increase that did not provide enough revenue for the gimme mob. Are the liberals going to cut government or expand the tax base to include more of the gimme guys and gals? In the past they expanded the tax base to all the “rich” people making any money at all and continued expanding government w/o end.


49 posted on 07/31/2009 12:01:05 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: DanZanRyu

Bed-wetting RINO Alert!


50 posted on 07/31/2009 3:52:31 PM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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