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How House Bill Runs Over Grandma
IBD Editorials ^ | July 31, 2009 | INVESTORS BUSINESS DAILY Staff

Posted on 07/31/2009 5:11:12 PM PDT by Kaslin

Rationing: In the recesses of the House health care "reform" bill is a provision for end-of-life counseling for seniors. Don't worry, granny, they're from the government and they're here to help.


At a town hall meeting at AARP headquarters in Washington, D.C., President Obama was asked by a woman from North Carolina if it was true "that everyone that's Medicare age will be visited and told they have to decide how they wish to die."

At first, the president joked that not enough government workers existed to ask the elderly how they wanted to die. The idea, he said, was to encourage the use of living wills and that critics were misrepresenting the intent of the "end of life" counseling provided for in the House bill. He did not say, "No, they wouldn't be contacted."

This administration, pledging to cut medical costs and for which "cost-effectiveness" is a new mantra, knows that a quarter of Medicare spending is made in a patient's final year of life. Certainly the British were aware when they nationalized their medical system.

The controlling of medical costs in countries such as Britain through rationing, and the health consequences thereof are legendary. The stories of people dying on a waiting list or being denied altogether read like a horror movie script.

The U.K.'s National Institute for Health and Clinical Excellence (NICE) basically figures out who deserves treatment by using a cost-utility analysis based on the "quality adjusted life year."

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1 posted on 07/31/2009 5:11:12 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: bareford101; BerniesFriend; blaveda; Bookwoman; Celeste732; dsc; FrdmLvr; FreedomPoster; ...

2 posted on 07/31/2009 5:12:11 PM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for 0bama: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Kaslin

NEITHER THE RAT CONGRESS NOR THE RAT TOTUS WILL BE RATIONED ON THEIR CARE! GRRRRRRRRRRR!


3 posted on 07/31/2009 5:14:33 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Democrat Party: a criminal organization masquerading as a political party)
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To: Kaslin
Please President Obama, don't kill my Grandma,leave her alone...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qOW__TneAY

4 posted on 07/31/2009 5:14:55 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings (Everything that deceives also enchants: Plato)
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To: Kaslin

"Mass. Pushes Rationing to Control Universal Healthcare Costs (RomneyCare)
A 10-member Massachusetts state healthcare advisory board unanimously recommended
that the state begin rationing healthcare to keep the state’s marquee universal health care program afloat financially.

The July 16 recommendations, the Boston Globe explained, would result in a situation where “patients could find it harder to get procedures they want but are of questionable benefit if doctors are operating within a budget.
And they might find it more difficult to get care wherever they want, if primary doctors push to keep patients within their accountable care organization.”
The Globe stressed that the recommendations would “dramatically change how doctors and hospitals are paid, essentially putting providers on a budget as a way to control exploding healthcare costs and improve the quality of care.”
"Budget" is a more politically acceptable word for rationing.
The Globe also noted that “consumer advocates said patients are going to have to be educated about the new system.” Yes, apparently they will have to get used to having their healthcare rationed.


5 posted on 07/31/2009 5:15:02 PM PDT by Diogenesis ("Those who go below the surface do so at their peril" - Oscar Wilde)
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To: Kaslin

Would that be a typical white women gramma?


6 posted on 07/31/2009 5:15:14 PM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom ;))
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To: Kaslin

Hussein Obama’s rationed, CommieCare is starting to make me feel like Edward G. Robinson.


7 posted on 07/31/2009 5:16:46 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Stop the DemocRATS' War On America!)
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To: Kaslin

Grandma got run over by Obama, walking home from our house Christmas Eve...


8 posted on 07/31/2009 5:17:38 PM PDT by rabidralph (http://www.thealaskafundtrust.com/ http://www.sarahpac.com)
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To: Kaslin

bttt.... Anyone have the score card for this test?


9 posted on 07/31/2009 5:18:50 PM PDT by pointsal
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To: rabidralph

You know this is nothing to joke about


10 posted on 07/31/2009 5:20:20 PM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for 0bama: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: rabidralph

It’s not Christmas without Grandma.
All the family’s dressed in black.
And we just can’t help but wonder:
Should we open up her gifts or send them back?


11 posted on 07/31/2009 5:20:38 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings (Everything that deceives also enchants: Plato)
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To: Kaslin
"that everyone that's Medicare age will be visited and told they have to decide how they wish to die."

That way, the government gets to keep their "unused" 50 years worth of Social Security money.

It's the MONEY, honey.

12 posted on 07/31/2009 5:20:47 PM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: Kaslin

Yes, I do, but I am incorrigible.


13 posted on 07/31/2009 5:28:15 PM PDT by rabidralph (http://www.thealaskafundtrust.com/ http://www.sarahpac.com)
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To: concerned about politics

Putting a price tag on everyone’s existence, how sad is that?


14 posted on 07/31/2009 5:31:08 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings (Everything that deceives also enchants: Plato)
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To: Kaslin; metmom; DaveLoneRanger; editor-surveyor; betty boop; Alamo-Girl; MrB; GourmetDan; ...

==The U.K.’s National Institute for Health and Clinical Excellence (NICE) basically figures out who deserves treatment by using a cost-utility analysis based on the “quality adjusted life year.”

Sound familiar? It should...

Britain’s N.I.C.E. Think Tank Not So Nice - C.S. Lewis’ Prophesy Comes Eerily True

http://opentheword.org/hilary-white/730-britains-nice-think-tank-not-so-nice-cs-lewis-prophesy-comes-eerily-true


15 posted on 07/31/2009 5:32:38 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: rabidralph

Well we have to laugh, this is horrifying to contemplate. Next step is bonuses for the clerks, bounties, as we pile up


16 posted on 07/31/2009 5:32:44 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings (Everything that deceives also enchants: Plato)
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To: Kaslin
Come on, wadda you old folks complaining about? Don't you know the democRATS "love" you old people? Obama DEATH CARE is wonderful! Besides, all you old and infirm folks have got to clear the playing field for the Obamessiahs legions of up and coming liberal generations.

What did you think was going to happen? YOU senior citizens overwhelmingly voted Obamessiah into power, YOU voted the democRATS into power in the house and senate. YOU wanted "hope" and "change" and sought it from a man that you knew was a socialist, marxist, anti-American, "Afro-centric", "Reverand Wright" black racist whos best friends are domestic terrorists.

Now that the democRATS are in TOTAL power and "in control" you need to do as your told; support Obama DEATH Care and OBEY the Obamessiah! So shut up, lie down, take this pill and DIE so that Obama can continue to make his "brave new world" WITHOUT YOU because your old and infirm and you COST TOO MUCH TO KEEP AROUND ANY LONGER!

17 posted on 07/31/2009 5:35:47 PM PDT by Jmouse007 (tot)
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To: 1000 silverlings
Putting a price tag on everyone’s existence, how sad is that?

The baby boomers are a huge voting block for the democrats, but they'll be gone soon. They're going to have to buy votes from another block to replace them - the illegal immigrant vote........watch for amnesty.

18 posted on 07/31/2009 5:37:12 PM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: concerned about politics

Hey, he is trying to solve the SS problem - give him a break! I mean, he treats his old relatives with the same respect.


19 posted on 07/31/2009 5:39:26 PM PDT by GregoryFul
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To: 1000 silverlings
Simply put....

The "unused" Social Security from the dead elderly (who's votes are going to have to be replaced because the baby boomer's are many, and are on their way out) will buy health care for illegal immigrants.

The "free" health care for illegals will set the stage for another huge voting block to replace the baby boomers once the amnesty bill (coming next) is passed.

20 posted on 07/31/2009 5:44:11 PM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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