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New Photos Released From Flyover Blunder : The Pentagon also released the flight manifest
NBC NewYork.com ^ | 7/31/2009 | VICTORIA CAVALIERE

Posted on 07/31/2009 9:14:09 PM PDT by mojitojoe

Responding to dozens of requests from the public, the Defense Department has released 146 more photos from the infamous Air Force One flyover that struck fear in thousands of unsuspecting New Yorkers in April.

The photos are posted right on the Pentagon's Website, defense officials said today. The Pentagon also released a heavily redacted flight manifest.

The April 27 photo-op caused quite a fright in Lower Manhattan and New Jersey, as many people who had lived through the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks thought the city was again under siege. Workers poured out of office buildings as the planes buzzed the city near the Financial District.

Local officials in New York and New Jersey had not been informed of the photo-op, which cost some $328,000, and the lack of communication and needless worry caused by the incident led to the resignation of Louis Caldera, the Obama official behind the stunt

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TOPICS: Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: af1; af1groundzeroflyover; airforceone; bhoairforceone; blunders; duplicate; flyover; newyork; obamaaf1flyover; photogate; securitybreach; usaf
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1 posted on 07/31/2009 9:14:10 PM PDT by mojitojoe
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To: mojitojoe
The Pentagon also released a heavily redacted flight manifest.

What, he released a copy of his BC?

Transparency you can believe in!

2 posted on 07/31/2009 9:18:07 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Move over NetZero - Obama's in the house!)
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To: mojitojoe

More info. Where’s the flight manifest?
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/07/31/more-mock-air-force-one-flyover-photos/


3 posted on 07/31/2009 9:19:14 PM PDT by Rebelbase (Obama--POtuS.)
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To: mojitojoe

We have adolescents with a chip on their shoulders in charge.


4 posted on 07/31/2009 9:20:22 PM PDT by Eagles6 ( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck. (Let them eat arugula!))
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To: mojitojoe
The Pentagon also released a heavily redacted flight manifest.

Who cares about the pictures... I want to know who all went joyriding on that flight.

5 posted on 07/31/2009 9:22:40 PM PDT by CheneyChick
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To: mojitojoe

Just as I suspected. I could have done that with Photoshop.


6 posted on 07/31/2009 9:23:13 PM PDT by smith288 (Americans suffer from Stockholm Syndrome with the government)
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To: mojitojoe

Why would the manifest be redacted? Was Obama selling seats on the plane?


7 posted on 07/31/2009 9:23:28 PM PDT by hattend (Thank You, Sarah. We Alaskans will miss you.)
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To: CheneyChick

And on top of that who ordered it.


8 posted on 07/31/2009 9:23:51 PM PDT by KJC1
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To: mojitojoe
why was the manifest redacted?

You take a plane up for photos and need only the operations crew.

What? There were political donors aboard?

Never mind...

9 posted on 07/31/2009 9:24:59 PM PDT by llevrok (As a matter of fact, yes I DO care if Jimmy cracks corn !)
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To: mojitojoe

Imagine the outrage if Bush had done this. The MSM would still be talking about it today.

Obammy gets a pass on everything.


10 posted on 07/31/2009 9:26:00 PM PDT by garyhope
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To: garyhope

I want to know who was on that plane.


11 posted on 07/31/2009 9:28:01 PM PDT by mojitojoe (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for the people to remain silent.)
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To: mojitojoe

If Dan Quayle had done something like this, they would have hung him from a rope. Hardly a word about Obama okaying the deed.

This looks almost as if it was done to tweak folks who were so terrorized on 09/11. Could any Muslim activist desiring to cause concern in New York have done anything more inappropriate, without actually committing a crime? No.

This was disgusting to the max.


12 posted on 07/31/2009 9:28:28 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (_Resident of the United States and Kenya's favorite son, Baraaaack Hussein Obamaaaa...)
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To: llevrok

why was the manifest redacted?
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That’s what I want to know. All they do is lie and cheat. I really despise these people.


13 posted on 07/31/2009 9:29:12 PM PDT by mojitojoe (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for the people to remain silent.)
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To: mojitojoe

Under SIEGE? Under ATTACK!


14 posted on 07/31/2009 9:31:07 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Democrat Party: a criminal organization masquerading as a political party)
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To: mojitojoe

The flight manifest only shows USAF personnel.

From the pictures, and from recollection, it was a crappy day, hazy and not clear at all.

You would have to photoshop these pictures to make them look decent. Run throught the photos and you will see the horrible colors as they buzz around the Statue of Liberty, NJ and lower Manhattan, and the haziness.

The 146 photos are stock stuff that certainly already exists.

I also thought there was a “Redtail” chase plane. There were two fighters, F-16s, but the only one in the pictures does not have a red tail. The Redtail must have been the photo plane, then.

A joyride on a crappy, hazy day, to take mediocre photos of AF-1 that already exist in better colors and wasting $ 328,000, adding to the degradation of the precious greenhouse, adding pollution to the air and wasting precious fuel(/sarc)?

Someone is still pulling our leg.


15 posted on 07/31/2009 9:32:13 PM PDT by exit82 (Sarah Palin is President No. 45. Get behind her, GOP, or get out of the way.)
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To: mojitojoe
Just a guess here, but I bet some of those redacted names belong to practitioners of the Religion of Peace.
16 posted on 07/31/2009 9:32:22 PM PDT by 50cal Smokepole (Effective gun control involves effective recoil management)
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To: DoughtyOne

What a collage of stink we already have from Obama and it hasn’t even been a year yet.


17 posted on 07/31/2009 9:32:31 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Democrat Party: a criminal organization masquerading as a political party)
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To: 50cal Smokepole

Who knows. Barack “transparent government” Obama is the king of opaque.


18 posted on 07/31/2009 9:34:17 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Democrat Party: a criminal organization masquerading as a political party)
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To: mojitojoe

The redacted manifest makes no sense to me . Looked at it and do not understand the reason to make the redactions.


19 posted on 07/31/2009 9:34:45 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: Irish Eyes

The only thing that seems redacted are the people’s names and they were all air force members, probably attendents and crew.

I figured there were hundreds of donors on the plane.


20 posted on 07/31/2009 9:38:27 PM PDT by hattend (Thank You, Sarah. We Alaskans will miss you.)
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To: mojitojoe

If only AF personnel were on board why were the enlisted who take care of passengers on board? I think they redacted the names of AF personnel especially enlisted because it would show these are the aides that serve the food/drinks to the passengers.


21 posted on 07/31/2009 9:43:41 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (Mary Fallin - OK Gov/Coburn/Rubio - Senate 2010 ! Take Back the House/Senate! Stop ZERO!)
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To: hattend

I think you are correct about donors. I would bet the reason for redacting the stewards was because other members of the AF would know who they are and start questioning why they were on board if there were no passengers. That is my question. From the ranks listed, bet they were the stewards to serve food and drinks. There is a lot of them listed. You would never have that many enlisted unless people are on board other then the crew.


22 posted on 07/31/2009 9:46:03 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (Mary Fallin - OK Gov/Coburn/Rubio - Senate 2010 ! Take Back the House/Senate! Stop ZERO!)
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To: Eagles6; mojitojoe
We have adolescents with a chip on their shoulders in charge.

I must have had too much gin. At first I thought you wrote "a chimp on their shoulders".

23 posted on 07/31/2009 9:48:07 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: Eagles6
"We have adolescents with a chip on their shoulders in charge. "

Truer words have never been spoken....
24 posted on 07/31/2009 9:48:36 PM PDT by FrankR (We are only enslaved to the extent of charity we receive....INCUMBENTS OUT!!!)
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To: mojitojoe
Here's a picture of "Air Force Whatever", on its way to Boston to collect the Cop and the Break-In Guy, for the Beer Garden visit with Zer0 and Plugs.


25 posted on 07/31/2009 9:50:07 PM PDT by jws3sticks (Sarah Palin forever!)
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To: 50cal Smokepole; mojitojoe

The only released document available from the referenced sources is FLIGHT AUTHORIZATION, not a manifest listing passengers.

(download the pdf and if necessary the free Adobe Acrobat reader)

The redacted names are all USAF flight personnel, only the commanding officer, Col. S. M. Turner is mentioned by name.

The 24 April 2009 flight had Mission designation AO133 with call sign Venus 01


26 posted on 07/31/2009 9:52:17 PM PDT by Covenantor ("Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern." Chesterton)
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To: mojitojoe

Something looks funny with that photo.


27 posted on 07/31/2009 9:53:48 PM PDT by 2CAVTrooper (For those who have had to fight for it, freedom has a flavor the protected shall never know.)
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To: exit82
I also thought there was a “Redtail” chase plane. There were two fighters, F-16s, but the only one in the pictures does not have a red tail. The Redtail must have been the photo plane, then.

Is the F-16 in the picture a single-seater, or a two-seater. If a two-seater, it's the photoplane. The "Redtail" chase plane was definitely a one-seater. IIRC, the Alabama ANG has never explained why one of their airplanes was sent up North to chase AF1.
28 posted on 07/31/2009 9:56:13 PM PDT by tanknetter
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To: Rebelbase; CheneyChick
Where’s the flight manifest?

Looks like it may have been the photo shoot it was originally reported as.

Flight manifest

29 posted on 07/31/2009 9:58:06 PM PDT by fso301
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To: Rebelbase

The flight manifest looks like it was done on one of those old mimeograph machines.


30 posted on 07/31/2009 10:01:25 PM PDT by 2CAVTrooper (For those who have had to fight for it, freedom has a flavor the protected shall never know.)
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To: Covenantor

You are right it is just the Flight Authorization. So we still do not have the manifest?


31 posted on 07/31/2009 10:06:13 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: Irish Eyes
“The redacted manifest makes no sense to me . Looked at it and do not understand the reason to make the redactions.”

I could understand redacting the security clearances which in this case they did not.

32 posted on 07/31/2009 10:06:30 PM PDT by 2CAVTrooper (For those who have had to fight for it, freedom has a flavor the protected shall never know.)
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To: Covenantor

Anyone know what the designations for crew position mean? Especially “MEGP”.

The “manifest” tells us the USAF crew.

Why would an unattended flight require such a large crew?


33 posted on 07/31/2009 10:09:10 PM PDT by exit82 (Sarah Palin is President No. 45. Get behind her, GOP, or get out of the way.)
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To: exit82

The crew includes aircraft maintenance folks. They always ride in case something needs fixing.


34 posted on 07/31/2009 10:11:31 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: exit82
Anyone know what the designations for crew position mean? Especially “MEGP”

MEGP is Mission Essential Ground Personnel.

35 posted on 07/31/2009 10:18:33 PM PDT by Covenantor ("Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern." Chesterton)
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To: Jet Jaguar

JJ, I can understand about maintenance folks.

But this is a 747.

How many people does it take to fly an empty 747?

Two pilots, a navigator, and a techie? There’s only so much you can fix inside a plane.

Seems like a big crew and some high ranks for an unattended flight to me.


36 posted on 07/31/2009 10:20:05 PM PDT by exit82 (Sarah Palin is President No. 45. Get behind her, GOP, or get out of the way.)
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To: Covenantor

Thanks, Covenantor.

What would these folks be doing on the flight? Maintenance types, admin types, stewards?


37 posted on 07/31/2009 10:23:19 PM PDT by exit82 (Sarah Palin is President No. 45. Get behind her, GOP, or get out of the way.)
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To: exit82

They take more than a flying crewchief.

But, I would imagine that some civvies were on the flight. (speculation only)


38 posted on 07/31/2009 10:25:18 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: jws3sticks; mojitojoe
Here's a picture of "Air Force Whatever"

I think the worst thing about that picture is that unattractive-looking white building that has been added to the Statue of Liberty. I winder if that has something to do with post-9/11 security.

39 posted on 07/31/2009 10:37:19 PM PDT by wideminded
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To: hattend

The call sign for the flight was ‘Venus01’.

Men are from Mars, Women are from Venus!

Was the #1 Woman on board?


40 posted on 07/31/2009 10:43:27 PM PDT by Pikachu_Dad
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To: jws3sticks

No way, they didn’t send AF1 for them did they?


41 posted on 07/31/2009 11:02:41 PM PDT by mojitojoe (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for the people to remain silent.)
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To: wideminded

Here is the text on the form....

Flight Authorization

Privace Act Statement
Authority: 10 U.S.C. 8013: 44 U.S. C. 3101 and EO9397

PRINCIPAL PURPOSE: Source document used to authorize aircrew members to perform in-flight duty credit and flight pay entitlements.

DISCLOSURE IS VOLUNTARY: SSNN is needed to meet qualification for accountability, flight documentation and flight pay entitlements. Failure to provide may prevent authorization to fly and result in a loss of records, qualifications, and incentive pay entitlements.

Variations in itinerary are authorized.

Provisons of AF1 65-10, Temporary Duty Orders, apply to temporary duty performed incidental to authorized flights.

PREPARED: 24-Apr-09
CALL SIGN: Venus 01
MISSION: A0133
PEID: A

DESTINATION CONUS
MSN TYPE TRNG/S72A
SCHED DEP 27-Apr-09
DT/TM 0900
SCHED RET 27-Apr-09
DT/TM 1300
OPER UNIT 89th/PAG
AERO VC-25A

DUTY
NAME RANK SSAN POSN POSN RMK UNIT CLR
TURNER, SCOTT M. COL EP MP A PAG TSC

All other names withheld, Code in box is(b)(6)
LTC MP MP A PAG TSC
LTC EP MP PAS TSC
LTC EN MP PAS TSC
LTC MN MN PAG TSC
MSGT IF MN 4 PAS TSC
SMSGT MF MF PAS TSC
MSGT FF FF PAS TSC
MSGT EK MK 5 PAS TSC
MSGT MK MK 6 PAS TSC
this person was lined out
SSGT MAP MAP 14ALS TSC

REMARKS:
Individuals below are not authorized payment
All names boxed out with code (b)(6)
TSGT MEGP PAS TSC
SSGT MEGP PAS TSC
SSGT MEGP PAS TSC
TLC MEGP PAS TSC

TAIL # 28000

REMARKS:
4 - EAC
5 - ACCESS TO NATO CLASSIFIED
A - IN COMMAND

GO/NO GO VERIFICATION: I certify go/no-go checks were accomplished for aircrew members listed above. As a minimum, ORM, light physical, physical availability, physiological training, emergency egress, local area survival, current ASC, (AO effective date/term date), ACFT AOs, FCIF card, and any other grounding events were checked.

1COx2 Initials: CN (guessing on initials)
Aircraft Commander Review: Sc circled (perhaps, another guess)

12. ACCOUNTING CLASSIFICATION
57 93400 309 65M5 3NFF04 02 40926 41314F 667100

CIC: N/A
BAS: N/A

13. DATE OF AUTH
27-Apr-09

14. DISTRIBUTION
1 FILE AND AS REQ

15. AUTH NUMBER
0133-09

16. SRT
N/A

17. AUTHORIZING ACTIVITY
DEPARTMENT OF THE AIR FORCE
89TH AIRLIFT WING (PP)
ANDREWS AFB MD 20762

18. AUTHENTICATING OFFICIAL
Name(s) redacted in box with code(b)(6). Two perhaps three lines deep box.

Name redacted in box with code (b)(6) Title was left and is
LT COL, USAF
NAVIGATOR, PAG

AMC FORM 41 (COMPUTER GENERATED)

Large number 18 hand written at bottom of the form


42 posted on 07/31/2009 11:08:31 PM PDT by Pikachu_Dad
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To: mojitojoe

Gawker.com has a number of the emails that were sent

http://gawker.com/5327610/scenes-from-inside-a-propaganda-disaster


43 posted on 07/31/2009 11:11:27 PM PDT by Pikachu_Dad
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To: Pikachu_Dad

WOW, those are pretty darn interesting to say the least. I did a screen shot in case they disappear.


44 posted on 07/31/2009 11:29:00 PM PDT by mojitojoe (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for the people to remain silent.)
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To: Pikachu_Dad

Not sure you meant to address post #42 to me.


45 posted on 07/31/2009 11:29:20 PM PDT by wideminded
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To: Pikachu_Dad

Was the #1 Woman on board?
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That’s my guess. Did it land anywhere because around that time she did do some shopping in NYC.


46 posted on 07/31/2009 11:30:03 PM PDT by mojitojoe (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for the people to remain silent.)
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To: Pikachu_Dad

Wikipedia says:

Active duty strength: 1153
Commander is Colonel Steven B Harrison

5 planes
VC-25A “Air Force One” (Boeing 747)
C-20B (Gulfstream III)
C-32A (Boeing 757)
C-37A (Gulfstream V)
C-40B (Boeing 737)


47 posted on 07/31/2009 11:31:20 PM PDT by Pikachu_Dad
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To: wideminded
Good catch. I first went there in 1955 and several times since, with the last in 1990. I then took my thirteen and ten year old kids, climbed to the crown.

It was a fantastic experience every time.

That stair climb was and still is something else.

What a National Gem. I am just happy those 9/11 a$$holes did not target her.

If the white tent/building can do anything to protect Lady Liberty, that's okay with me.

48 posted on 07/31/2009 11:40:50 PM PDT by jws3sticks (Sarah Palin forever!)
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To: mojitojoe
I don't know. I've been asking but the State Owned News Media has not addressed the basic question ("How did the Cop and Skip get to Washington?").

Nothing new there, of course.

Cost of visit: transportation $200,000; beer $5; an exchange between the Cop, Skip, Plugs and Zer0 was not PRICELESS but PRICEY and it is our freaking money.

Thanks Zer0 for the "stupid" blunder about the great police of Cambridge, Mass.

49 posted on 07/31/2009 11:47:50 PM PDT by jws3sticks (Sarah Palin forever!)
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To: Pikachu_Dad

Col Scott Turner sent a short email message to his boss George Mulligan on Friday April 24th 12:11 pm It ends

“Do you have any issues/reservations whatsoever?”

Interesting.


50 posted on 08/01/2009 12:07:38 AM PDT by Pikachu_Dad
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