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Sheppard, AF officials retire workhorse of pilot training
AF Print news ^ | July 31, 2009 | John Ingle

Posted on 07/31/2009 10:07:40 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar

SHEPPARD AIR FORCE BASE, Texas (AFNS) -- More than 50 years of dependable service is a lot to ask, especially from a tool used to train thousands of people in a critical and sometimes dangerous business.

But as men and women in the U.S. Air Force said farewell to the T-37 Tweet July 31, they did so knowing they got all they asked for and more from the venerable training aircraft.

Among those who came to Sheppard to usher out the end of an era and welcome in a new technological advancement in undergraduate pilot training was Gen. Donald J. Hoffman, commander of Air Force Materiel Command. His story, like many of those who came before and after him, includes the Tweet, a durable and rugged training platform that provided the foundation of more than 78,000 Air Force, NATO and other international pilots since it became operational in 1957.

The general, who "owns" the final destination of the Tweet -- the "Boneyard" at Davis-Monthan Air Force Base, Ariz., and home to the Aerospace Maintenance and Regeneration Group, or AMARG -- said his last flight in the venerable Tweet is one that holds a special place in his heart. Not only because of its heritage, but because it was the beginning of his 35-year Air Force career.

His first active assignment was as an 80th Flying Training Wing instructor pilot at Sheppard.

"Because I flew the Sheppard jets during my first assignment, and now have the Boneyard at Tucson as part of Air Force Materiel Command, I have a close sense of identity with the final retirement of this wonderful aircraft," General Hoffman said. "Nothing compares to the feeling of stepping out of the aircraft and launching your student on their first solo ... you can almost see their grin coming out from the edges of their oxygen mask."

The general is part of the group that will take four aircraft to AMARG. Another group will take a couple to the Utah Test and Training Range located at Hill AFB, Utah.

But why has the T-37 been such a dependable beginning trainer for so many pilots?

"For most students, the T-37 is the first jet, the first ejection seat, the first helmet and oxygen mask, and the first formal Air Force flying syllabus they have been exposed to," General Hoffman said. "This can be an intimidating experience, but they get the ground training, simulator training and personalized attention of the instructor to get them through it."

Col. Kevin Schneider, commander of the 80th FTW, said when most people think of the U.S. Air Force and the air forces of NATO partners, they think of fighters and bombers going off to war to preserve freedom and democracy across the world. Those flying the warbirds didn't just get in them and begin to fly. They had to learn how first.

"Combat skill and success doesn't happen overnight and it certainly doesn't start without disciplined training," the colonel said. "The T-37 Tweet has been that starting point for pilots for more than 50 years."

The colonel witnessed a portion of that as a Euro-NATO Joint Jet Pilot Training undergraduate pilot training student at Sheppard in the late 80s. He said the Tweet was a very dependable aircraft during his training and remained so until its retirement.

"As the commander of the 80th Flying Training Wing, I have the unique opportunity to retire an incredibly durable trainer that has been the foundation of the Euro-NATO Joint Jet Pilot Training Program," he said. "The departure of the last few U.S. and German-owned T-37s closes the book on a legacy of success that may never be matched."

Brig. Gen. Jeffrey B. Kendall, deputy director of intelligence, operations and nuclear integration for flying training at Air Education and Training Command and commander of the 80th FTW from January 2005 to August 2007, recalled his first experience with the Tweet when he began pilot training in the ENJJPT program at Sheppard.

He described his "dollar ride," or first student flight, during his comments at the ceremony. He said he was a nervous, yet excited student watching his instructor, Danish air force Capt. Gullach Tousgaard, go through the checklists. The general said he doesn't remember much from that first flight other than taking the flight controls for a while.

"The one thing I do remember to this day is how wide my grin was as I proudly walked back into the life support area to drop off my parachute and helmet," General Kendall said. "The Tweet had firmly planted that silly (student pilot) smile on my face. I was truly hooked."

General Hoffman, the leader in charge of providing the acquisition management services and logistics support required to develop, procure and sustain Air Force weapon systems, said there is a more-than-viable option to replace the Tweet, the T-6A Texan II.

"The T-6 is a highly capable replacement for the venerable T-37," he said. "We are still going through some growing pains, but it is much better suited to prepare student pilots for today's aircraft and those that will come in the future."

The Texan II provides a tandem cockpit configuration similar to two-seater fighter setups compared to the side-by-side T-37. It also has a "glass cockpit," or all digital instrument panel.

General Kendall said should not be concerned about moving from a jet powered aircraft to a single turbo-prop platform.

"Some might think it unusual or a step backwards to replace a jet aircraft with a prop-driven one," he said, "but let me say that this is not your granddaddy's T-6. This primary flight trainer outperforms the over 50-year-old flying 'birdwhistle' in just about every area except perhaps in noise generation."


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: aviation; t37; tweet; usaf

1 posted on 07/31/2009 10:07:40 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: Jet Jaguar

Thread Bump.


2 posted on 07/31/2009 10:09:41 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: Cindy

Thanks Cindy.


3 posted on 07/31/2009 10:14:30 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: onedoug

ping


4 posted on 07/31/2009 10:16:45 PM PDT by stylecouncilor (What Would Jim Thompson Do?)
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To: Cindy

What? The Cessna Flying Dog Whistle bites the dust? Say it’s not true! What a great little acrobatic and formation ship. The White Rocket (T-38) by comparison, ate up 10,000’ to do a 3g loop. Ugh. Bo-ring.

By the time I went through (1968), snap rolls where prohibited in the Tweety Bird. I couldn’t resist - I tried one; it was OK. Then I told an instructor pilot friend, who said “next time you do one, look out the rear view mirror”. I about passed out - you could actually see the ‘T’ tail bending over! Never again. (The old pilots/bold pilots, but no old bold pilots holds true.)

BTW, I was in Undergraduate Pilot Training class 70-02 at Vance AFB, OK


5 posted on 07/31/2009 10:22:35 PM PDT by QBFimi (When gunpowder speaks, beasts listen.)
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To: Jet Jaguar
I've watched the little thing take off many times there, but the future is here:

Training the Top Guns of drone aircraft

The Pentagon is graduating its first class of Predator pilots from the elite Air Force Weapons School in an attempt to keep the best in the air grounded in the fast-growing fighting program.

By Julian E. Barnes

June 07, 2009

Reporting from Washington — The Pentagon is preparing to graduate its first pilots of unmanned drones from the elite U.S. Air Force Weapons School -- a version of the Navy's Top Gun program -- in a bid to elevate the skills and status of the officers who fly Predators, one of the military's fastest growing aircraft programs.

The elite flight schools of the Air Force and Navy are most closely associated with smart, tough fighter jocks. But over the course of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, the MQ-1 Predator and more heavily armed MQ-9 Reaper craft have become, to many in the Pentagon, the most important aircraft the U.S. has deployed.

http://articles.latimes.com/2009/jun/07/nation/na-topgun-drone7

6 posted on 07/31/2009 10:23:25 PM PDT by org.whodat (Vote: Chuck De Vore in 2012.)
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To: org.whodat

Our ranch is directly under Sheppard’s routine training routes. Over the years I’v seen T-38s on a near daily basis coming over but the treat was to see a T-37 as odd it may seem. The T-38s and T-37s rarely flew the same patterns during training so to get a Tweety Bird was a welcomed change.

Yeah it’s a small, very subsonic, and unimpressive airplane when compared to its sexier counterparts. But the T-37 should be right up there with the F-4, B-52, A-6, F-16, A-10, etc. as the workhorse aircraft of the post-WW2 era that lived well beyond their years and gave the country service that was never expected.

It was “hard” to kill in service, after so many tries throughout the years, and that is the best compliment you can pay to an piece of hardware. To those that understand, it’s the same compliment being paid to 40+ year old M-14s that are being drug out of basement armories and dusted off for use in Iraq and Afghantistan.


7 posted on 07/31/2009 10:50:13 PM PDT by JoenTX (do it lo)
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To: QBFimi
I was in 69-06 at Reese. After UPT my assignment was Tweet IP at Reese! My last active duty assignment was as IP at PIT in San Antonio at Randolph. Even with all its drawbacks, there wasn't a better airplane for its intended mission than the Tweetie Bird. This is a very nostalgic story for me.
8 posted on 07/31/2009 10:54:43 PM PDT by immadashell
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To: QBFimi
You guys would fly those dog whistles over the BOQ at Ft. Sill for practice ILSs, one every 60 seconds, starting at 0700 Sunday mornings in 1966.

After a good Saturday night, this was HARD on us! :)

9 posted on 07/31/2009 10:57:36 PM PDT by MindBender26 ("Ok, so I screwed up... again. I'm 65. What are they going to do, send me back to Vietnam again?)
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To: QBFimi

I wonder if civilianized T-37’s will be for sale?


10 posted on 07/31/2009 11:02:28 PM PDT by GeronL (Guilty of the crime of deviationism.)
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To: JoenTX; Jet Jaguar
Pics Y'all

An A-37 varaint

Another A-37 pic


11 posted on 07/31/2009 11:06:01 PM PDT by alfa6
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To: Jet Jaguar
Like most who trained in the Tweet found, it was noisy, uncomfortable, and the air condition spit ice at you on descent.
On a hot day, the word "sweat" is inadequate to describe how much body fluid you expire with a parachute on your back,
helmet on your noggin and canopy locked in position, No. 3 in line for takeoff.

BUT, it was a very forgiving airframe. It was a lot of fun to fly, be it acro in the area, unpressurized spin-training from 25,000',
student puking in his glove, working on instrument cross-check on a non-precision approach, offset trail in formation, or
dodging eagles in a low level flight ... and I learned a lot.

We'll miss you, Tweetie...

Tweetie

12 posted on 07/31/2009 11:13:52 PM PDT by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: alfa6

Many thanks!


13 posted on 07/31/2009 11:15:46 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: alfa6

Nice pics...

The little bugger is still, about 50 years after its inception, still in service in a number of South American countries among others.

So underappreciated and under-guaged but a half century on it’s still a viable force to reckon with. That is rare, folks. Rare.

All of those driving ‘57 Chevies to work on a routine basis will know what I mean.


14 posted on 07/31/2009 11:18:26 PM PDT by JoenTX (do it lo)
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To: immadashell

LOL, few things can be as fun (and dangerous), than 8 IPs on a 4-ship
cross-country.


15 posted on 07/31/2009 11:32:10 PM PDT by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Good bye trusty steed.
About the only thing I didn’t do in this plane was crash. Thrashed it, over-G’d it, slid, flopped, slipped, rolled, and looped it. Jet solo-ed in it, puked in it, got puked-on in it, formated, navigated, instrumentated, and most importantly, instructed some of the finest men of America in it.
Oh, and began a still going strong 28 year professional aviation career in it.
UPT Class 81-04 Williams AFB, AZ.
T-37 Instructor 1981-1984 Williams AFB, AZ.


16 posted on 07/31/2009 11:45:33 PM PDT by XHogPilot
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To: Jet Jaguar

I don’t know where the pic of the Tweets after the ice storm is hiding on the server or I would have posted it as well:-)

Have a great weekend

Regards

alfa6 ;>}


17 posted on 07/31/2009 11:53:33 PM PDT by alfa6
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To: alfa6

Here’s a pic of Tweet after a snow....http://www.wunderground.com/wximage/viewsingleimage.html?mode=singleimage&handle=Giacomo&number=22&#slideanchor


18 posted on 08/01/2009 12:00:22 AM PDT by exit82 (Sarah Palin is President No. 45. Get behind her, GOP, or get out of the way.)
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To: exit82; Jet Jaguar

Linkee to the pic I mentioned earlier

http://mae.engr.ucdavis.edu/~aerobrick/pictures/random/T-37_ice.jpg

Regards

alfa6 ;>}


19 posted on 08/01/2009 12:34:08 AM PDT by alfa6
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To: MindBender26

Yeah...the noises emitted from these guys made you wonder if a crash was imminent.

Goodbye, old friend.


20 posted on 08/01/2009 12:37:15 AM PDT by 4mer Liberal (Collosians 1:15-17)
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To: Jet Jaguar

I was standing beside one of those at an air show, looking down into the cockpit at the amazing clutter of switchology in there. The pilots were standing nearby doing their Air Force PR duty when a couple of wise ass Phantom pilots walked by and yelled “what’s that thing gonna be when it grows up?”. The Tweetie pilots could only grin back, but it was one of those mirror-sunglasses Tom Cruise Top Gun kind of grins. It made my day.


21 posted on 08/01/2009 1:01:33 AM PDT by Dumpster Baby (Bacon,smokless powder,and boobs are proof that God loves us.)
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To: zot

Tweetie Bird - Good-bye


22 posted on 08/01/2009 6:25:39 AM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: GeronL

Take out the military stuff, add a glass cockpit, make it a 4-seater, and you can mount your luggage on the hard points!


23 posted on 08/01/2009 6:38:25 AM PDT by patton (Obama has replaced "Res Publica" with "Quod licet Jovi non licet bovi.")
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To: alfa6

LOL - they are formation flying nose up!


24 posted on 08/01/2009 6:42:54 AM PDT by patton (Obama has replaced "Res Publica" with "Quod licet Jovi non licet bovi.")
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To: immadashell

Great picture. My office for 1,700 hours.


25 posted on 08/01/2009 6:53:35 AM PDT by immadashell
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To: BP2

Throttles idle — Rudders and Ailerons neutral...


26 posted on 08/01/2009 7:10:19 AM PDT by immadashell
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To: patton
Take out the military stuff, add a glass cockpit, make it a 4-seater, and you can mount your luggage on the hard points!

Then apply for TARP money to top off the tanks.

27 posted on 08/01/2009 7:48:03 AM PDT by immadashell
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To: immadashell

Good point how many GPH of fuel?


28 posted on 08/01/2009 8:59:06 AM PDT by patton (Obama has replaced "Res Publica" with "Quod licet Jovi non licet bovi.")
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To: patton

Probably eligible for Cash For Clunkers.


29 posted on 08/01/2009 10:07:24 AM PDT by immadashell
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To: GreyFriar

Thanks for the ping. The Air Force got a fine return on that investment.


30 posted on 08/01/2009 5:04:19 PM PDT by zot
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