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What Obama's hiding and the media are ignoring
JWR ^ | July 31, 2009 | Diana West

Posted on 08/01/2009 6:54:27 AM PDT by Marguerite

Barack Obama's birthday is Aug. 4, and I hereby urge the president to bestow a party favor on the nation that elected him: a verifying look at the original "long-form" version of his birth certificate.

It's important to grasp the weird fact that this simple request, requiring nothing more than a nod of the presidential head, ranks as fightin' words to American journalists. Right wing, left wing, these ladies and gentlemen of the Fourth Estate seem to want nothing less than to gain access to the one piece of evidence that could lay the "natural born" issue to rest once and for all.

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This is the mystery behind the unease "out there," unease the MSM are now simultaneously picking up on even as they try to squelch it. And this is true particularly after CNN's Lou Dobbs raised the issue in a historically resonant manner: Dobbs trusts that Obama is a natural-born citizen but would like the president to verify his status regardless.

And why not? It is no accident that history and literature are replete with rocky tales of doubtful succession, of the maladjustment brought on by pretenders to thrones. There is something in human nature that yearns for the rightful leader. And there is something in our Constitution that requires it.

So why won't this president, who, after all, promised the American people an unprecedented level of transparency, reveal his original long-form birth certificate? Unheeded, the "natural born" controversy will roil indefinitely, further fired by the vagaries of Hawaiian law — specifically, Section 338-17.8, titled "Certificates for children born out of State" — which makes state birth documentation available to children born out of state, even born out of the country.

None of this is healthy, not the president's suspicious secrecy and not the MSM's protective incuriosity. It almost seems as if someone has something to hide.

1 posted on 08/01/2009 6:54:27 AM PDT by Marguerite
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To: Marguerite
"It almost seems as if someone has something to hide."

THERE FIXED IT! !! !

2 posted on 08/01/2009 6:57:53 AM PDT by Voter#537 (BO STINKS)
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To: Marguerite

He is just hoping if he and his MSM cohorts call the “birthers” names that it will all go away.

You have to show your birth certificate to play little league, I don’t think it is too much to ask that he show it.


3 posted on 08/01/2009 7:00:02 AM PDT by tiki (True Christians will not deliberately slander or misrepresent others or their beliefs)
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To: Marguerite

Need to have a rubber stamp made for dollar bills that says:

Show me the original Birth certificate!

This might be a good item to make and sell at the 9-12 tea party. Can you imagine a million plus dollar bills in circulation. Birthers need to turn up the heat on media.


4 posted on 08/01/2009 7:00:14 AM PDT by ncfool (Obama's Health care is Like Cash for Clunkers! Dead on Arrival.)
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To: ncfool

In Palin accent: Hey Barry, whatcha hidin?


5 posted on 08/01/2009 7:02:08 AM PDT by Texas resident ( Boys and Girls, it's us against them.)
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To: tiki

“He is just hoping if he and his MSM cohorts call the “birthers” names that it will all go away.”

Calling people names haven’t succeeded to chase away any topic, especially one of national, and I may say international interest. Any treaty or law signed by an usurper is null and void.


6 posted on 08/01/2009 7:04:04 AM PDT by Marguerite (When I'm good, I am very, very good. But! When I'm bad, I'm even better)
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To: Texas resident

I hope she is in DC for 9-12. She has metal and has bared all for her country. We know every thing and more about here and her past. Her life, Kids, Schools, grades. Yep we know every think about Her.

Nothing about Obama. He is the Manchurian Canidate.


7 posted on 08/01/2009 7:05:24 AM PDT by ncfool (Obama's Health care is Like Cash for Clunkers! Dead on Arrival.)
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To: Marguerite

I have just decided to spend up to 1 MILLION DOLLARS making sure no one can see this post.

Yes, I know, you people now think I’m out of my freaking mind: “Why would any sane person do that? There’s no reason to hide anything in the post above...”

Exactly people! Always, always, always follow what the money is trying to tell you!


8 posted on 08/01/2009 7:06:06 AM PDT by MrDem (From Morning in America to Mourning in America...)
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To: ncfool
Even a cat has a birth certificate in America! :)


10 posted on 08/01/2009 7:09:36 AM PDT by Marguerite (When I'm good, I am very, very good. But! When I'm bad, I'm even better)
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To: ncfool

I LOVE this idea!


11 posted on 08/01/2009 7:10:43 AM PDT by my small voice (A biased media and an uneducated public is the biggest threat to our democracy)
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To: Voter#537

I think O will be getting a couple of post cards in the mail compliments of WND.


12 posted on 08/01/2009 7:11:03 AM PDT by taxtruth (America is a ping pong game!)
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To: MrDem

“Why would any sane person do that? There’s no reason to hide anything in the post above...”

Exactly people! Always, always, always follow what the money is trying to tell you!”

Bingo! I could not agree with you more!


13 posted on 08/01/2009 7:11:03 AM PDT by Batman11 (Chicago, Land of Lincoln who freed the slaves and Land of Obama who enslaved the free.)
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To: Marguerite

Barry is waiting for his forgers to “age” the new forgery BC via intense light or chemicals.


14 posted on 08/01/2009 7:13:26 AM PDT by freebird5850 (O-Bomba is not the Messia. Jesus was a carpenter and could build a cabinet!)
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To: ncfool

I’m willing to wager lunch at McDonalds that releasing the original BC will show us something that Obama doesn’t want us to know.

Both he and his mother played fast and loose with Social Security numbers, I think birth and immigration records are no different.

- Did his original BC acyrately reflect his actual father and his vital statistics?
- Does his BC show a doctor’s name and a hospital?
- Did he update his BC to reflect his name changes over the years?
- Does his amended BC indicate his adopted status and his return to Hawaii?
- Have his citizenship issues while in Indonesia been reflected in amendments to the original BC?

There are many more possible “traps” in what is certainly a complex upbringing (please add to this list) and it seems highly unlikely that everything was handled legally, whether by comission or omission.


15 posted on 08/01/2009 7:13:40 AM PDT by Hillary'sMoralVoid
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To: Marguerite

Diana, better put your asbestos undies on, you’ve really stepped in it now. Oh and thank you for being a real journalist!


16 posted on 08/01/2009 7:20:13 AM PDT by jpsb
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To: Marguerite
It's a simple thing to put to rest. I have a passport and a birth certificate. I can produce them at my house in a matter of minutes. I have not spent a million dollars to either acquire them...or to hide them.

This is not a unreasonable thing to ask for since being a "natural born citizen" of the US is a constitutional requirement for the job of President. It's not hateful, and it's not racist.

Proving that you are should be an honor.

Yet Obama cannot and will not produce either. Why?

THE AUDACITY OF TRUTH ABOUT BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA'S UPBRINGING

A PETITION ON FACEBOOK FOR CONSTITUTIONAL RESTORATION

17 posted on 08/01/2009 7:22:38 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Hillary'sMoralVoid

The issue might not be that it shows he is not a natural born citizen but that HE FLAT OUT LIED about something, or that his mother/grandmother committed some type of document fraud for the purpose of defrauding the government. A possible welfare cheat.


18 posted on 08/01/2009 7:23:53 AM PDT by MrDem (From Morning in America to Mourning in America...)
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To: MrDem

Someone on the internet posted a $10,000 reward to anyone who was there who witnessed O’s birth in Hawaii.

I’ll add a thousand of my own to that (maybe I should make it a million- I dont ever expect to have to pay it)


19 posted on 08/01/2009 7:24:25 AM PDT by Mr. K (THIS ADMINISTRATION IS WEARING OUT MY CAPSLOCK KEY DAMMIT DAMMIT DAMMIT!!!!!)
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To: Marguerite

Could it be that there’s something else on that birth certificate he doesn’t want mentioned, like, a different father or something?


20 posted on 08/01/2009 7:25:24 AM PDT by Hildy
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To: Hillary'sMoralVoid

Or maybe it just says “muslim” on it.


21 posted on 08/01/2009 7:27:27 AM PDT by trek
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To: Hildy

“Could it be that there’s something else on that birth certificate he doesn’t want mentioned, like, a different father or something?”

Could be. If a child is legally adopted, the name of the new parent(s) is added to the BC, for him/her/them to become the legal parent(s). As Lolo Soetoro adopted him in 1967, the birth certificate could have been amended.


22 posted on 08/01/2009 7:30:20 AM PDT by Marguerite (When I'm good, I am very, very good. But! When I'm bad, I'm even better)
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To: Hildy
Could it be that there’s something else on that birth certificate he doesn’t want mentioned, like, a different father or something?

Maybe the BC lists those three small birthmarks shaped like sixes.....

/sarc

23 posted on 08/01/2009 7:34:34 AM PDT by Mac from Cleveland (How to make a small fortune in the Obama era--first, start off with a big fortune....)
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To: Marguerite
Calling people names haven’t succeeded to chase away any topic, especially one of national, and I may say international interest. Any treaty or law signed by an usurper is null and void.

You nailed it, about international interest.

I would think the pressure is huge from allies of the US. For instance, IDF is probably very nervous about hitting Iran thinking that they would be on shaky ground with no backing should there be a Constitutional crisis at the White House in times of need.

24 posted on 08/01/2009 7:36:46 AM PDT by m4629 (politically incorrect, and proud of it)
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To: Jeff Head
>It's a simple thing to put to rest. I have a passport and a birth certificate. I can produce them at my house in a matter of minutes

His birthday's Tuesday.
Maybe that's why the mainstream
has been looking in...

Maybe Obama
for his birthday will release
the real document.

25 posted on 08/01/2009 7:42:02 AM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: Voter#537

I find it very interesting & peculiar that folks like Ann Coulter find nothing curious about the extreme efforts to hide something that should be so mundane.

I also see something of a strategy in their own efforts to paint those of us that do, as kooks.

Also, has anyone else noted that they are working very hard to make the entire issue as strictly “natural born”? They never address the notion that there are plenty of other embarrassing things about his history that could be responsible for all of this secrecy. And they never mention the lock down on the variety of [usually] ordinary records throughout his adult life.

It isn’t rocket science. Something sticks to high heaven. We just don’t know what it is.


26 posted on 08/01/2009 7:43:36 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s........you weren't really there)
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To: theFIRMbss
We shall see...but I am not holding my breath.

With or without it, the man is an abject marxist ideologue whose past is shrowded in secrecy, deception, smoke screens and lies.

THE AUDACITY OF TRUTH ABOUT BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA

27 posted on 08/01/2009 7:44:43 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Marguerite

“Barack Obama’s birthday is Aug. 4”

Maybe it is maybe it isn’t.


28 posted on 08/01/2009 7:48:24 AM PDT by muddler
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To: Marguerite; m4629
>Calling people names haven’t succeeded to chase away any topic

Yes, it has. Haven't
you read about Buckley and
the John Birch people?

William F. Buckley: Goldwater, the John Birch Society, and Me



29 posted on 08/01/2009 7:49:03 AM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: Marguerite

I think the reason for non-compliance could be...after the birth certificate people would start asking for college grades...and LSAT score...

...the more I see and hear of Obama...the less convinced I am that he was a stellar scholar. Regardless of what Chris Mathews says.


30 posted on 08/01/2009 7:50:19 AM PDT by kjo
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To: trek
A name change would be a matter of public record for an adult. There is no such record yet found, and he himself has signed documents that his name has always been B Obama.

But this is all a lie. This is the embarrassment.
Something so fundamental to the human condition, the name, is lie.

When he was adopted, his name changed to Barry Soetoro.

When he came back to the USA, as far as we know, he never legally changed his name or renounced his Indonesian citizenship.

I believe he is still, legally, Barry Soetoro, Indonesian citizen. I think this is in the long form BC document.

To apply for an SSN number as an adult, B Obama would have to show a BC with a name of B Soetoro. Hence the SSN issue.

One lie after another.

31 posted on 08/01/2009 8:02:29 AM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: Marguerite

“As Lolo Soetoro adopted him in 1967, the birth certificate could have been amended.”

I don’t think the Soetoro adoption was legally recognized by the State of Hawaii. However, if it was, they would still have the original BC before it reflected the change of parentage...it would be sealed though and require a court order to release it.

He is hiding something...it may not be enough to make him not constitutionally qualified, but it might be enough to hurt his credibility as POTUS. This would make him a lame duck.

Or, it probably would cause more questions than answers. So, POTUS Obama being a lawyer knows this, so he hides it. It is really difficult to know what he is hiding or if he really is hiding anything.....he could just be incredible arrogant.


32 posted on 08/01/2009 8:17:57 AM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: Marguerite

This is how I perceive the media with this issue.

Media: Oh come on now, it’s a conspiracy he wasn’t born in America or isn’t a Natural Born Citizen. Give me a break.

(more chatter)

Media: This is getting ridiculous. President Obama, will you please just go ahead and show them the original certificate so these nutcases can go back to getting probed anally by aliens?

(louder chatter-word spreading)

Media: What is the hold up Mr. President? Why are you ignoring this issue? It’s a simple thing to make go away and all you have to do is make a phone call, or make a request in writing, anything!

(making topic on news shows)

Media: I just don’t understand why he won’t show his birth certificate!
(Privately-Do you think something is really wrong?)


33 posted on 08/01/2009 8:19:03 AM PDT by autumnraine (You can't fix stupid, but you can vote it out!)
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To: tiki

I want to get someone with a hidden camera to follow me into the DMV and tell them I lost my license. If they ask me for identification to get a new one, I will give them a url with a photograph of my birth certificate on it so they can look it up.

If it’s good enough to be President and hold the nuke codes, it’s good enough to drive a car!


34 posted on 08/01/2009 8:20:58 AM PDT by autumnraine (You can't fix stupid, but you can vote it out!)
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To: Baynative

I would actually think it would be funny for Michelle to bake Barack a cake from her garden. They just reported yesterday that their ‘organic’ garden isn’t organic because the Clintons fertilized that area with “sewer sludge”. Yes, human crap. Michelle Obama fed school children from a garden that had human crap in the ground and “dangerously elevated levels of lead”.


35 posted on 08/01/2009 8:23:26 AM PDT by autumnraine (You can't fix stupid, but you can vote it out!)
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To: PA-RIVER

“One lie after another.”

It reads like an Agatha Christie detective story. One lie calls for another lie, as one crime calls for the next.

Ten little Soldiers(Indian or negro in original) boys went out to dine;
One choked his little self and then there were nine.
Nine little Soldier boys sat up very late;
One overslept himself and then there were eight.
Eight little Soldier boys traveling in Devon;
One said he’d stay there and then there were seven.
Seven little Soldier boys chopping up sticks;
One chopped himself in halves and then there were six.
Six little Soldier boys playing with a hive;
A bumblebee stung one and then there were five.
Five little Soldier boys going in for law;
One got into Chancery and then there were four.
Four little Soldier boys going out to sea;
A red herring swallowed one and then there were three.
Three little Soldier boys walking in the zoo;
A big bear hugged one and then there were two.
Two Little Soldier boys sitting in the sun;
One got frizzled up and then there was one.
One little Soldier boy left all alone;
He went out and hanged himself and then there were none.


36 posted on 08/01/2009 8:26:35 AM PDT by Marguerite (When I'm good, I am very, very good. But! When I'm bad, I'm even better)
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To: muddler

I don’t believe it is HIS birthday, just one of the many many SSN#’s he has used. He is on the run and we’re gonna get him.


37 posted on 08/01/2009 8:27:07 AM PDT by freebird5850 (O-Bomba is not the Messia. Jesus was a carpenter and could build a cabinet!)
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To: autumnraine

“If they ask me for identification to get a new one, I will give them a url with a photograph of my birth certificate”

LOL


38 posted on 08/01/2009 8:27:48 AM PDT by Marguerite (When I'm good, I am very, very good. But! When I'm bad, I'm even better)
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To: Sola Veritas
Obama being a lawyer knows this, so he hides it.

IMO he knew all along that he was not eligible.

"I'm a believer in knowing what you're doing when applying for a job, and I think that if I were seriously consider running on a national ticket, I would essentially have to start now before having served a day in the Senate. Now, there are some people who would be comfortable doing that, but I'm not one of those people." - Barack Obama (November 8, 2004)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gexyfVpFMU

39 posted on 08/01/2009 8:33:41 AM PDT by Marguerite (When I'm good, I am very, very good. But! When I'm bad, I'm even better)
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To: Marguerite

“FREE THE LONG FORM!”


40 posted on 08/01/2009 8:44:35 AM PDT by Dryman (Now, Back to Lurking)
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To: All
Senate Resolution 511

Whereas the Constitution of the United States requires that, to be eligible for the Office of the President, a person must be a `natural born Citizen' of the United States;

Whereas the term `natural born Citizen', as that term appears in Article II, Section 1, is not defined in the Constitution of the United States;

Whereas there is no evidence of the intention of the Framers or any Congress to limit the constitutional rights of children born to Americans serving in the military nor to prevent those children from serving as their country's President;

Whereas such limitations would be inconsistent with the purpose and intent of the `natural born Citizen' clause of the Constitution of the United States, as evidenced by the First Congress's own statute defining the term `natural born Citizen';

United States Naturalization Law of March 26, 1790 states"the children of citizens of the United States that may be born beyond Sea, or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born Citizens".

According to the US Senate resolution, Obama is NOT a natural born citizen, because his father was NOT a US citizen.

On his own site, Obama recognized that he is not natural born US citizen:

http://fightthesmears.com/articles/5/birthcertificate

When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdoms dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.s children."

British Nationality Act of 1948 (Part II, Section 5): Subject to the provisions of this section, a person born after the commencement of this Act shall be a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies by descent if his father is a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies at the time of the birth.

41 posted on 08/01/2009 8:52:43 AM PDT by Marguerite (When I'm good, I am very, very good. But! When I'm bad, I'm even better)
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To: Marguerite

the birth cert issue alone makes the great waygu a one termer because during the next election cycle all smart candidates will start their campaign with a press conference displaying ALL of their birth records, school transcripts, marriage etc...barry will be compelled to show his cards....


42 posted on 08/01/2009 8:56:12 AM PDT by databoss (Keep The Change....)
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To: All
"According to the US Senate resolution, Obama is NOT a natural born citizen, because his father was NOT a US citizen."
43 posted on 08/01/2009 10:32:26 AM PDT by Marguerite (When I'm good, I am very, very good. But! When I'm bad, I'm even better)
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To: Marguerite

The American people deserve to see Obama’s original long form birth certificate. He’s already told us that he is hiding something by spending over a million dollars in legal fees to keep it hidden.

You wrote-
“It almost seems as if someone has something to hide.”


44 posted on 08/01/2009 5:18:25 PM PDT by real_patriotic_american
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To: Marguerite

LOL....you’re right, my AKC Lab has more detailed information on his birth info and pedigree


45 posted on 08/01/2009 5:21:49 PM PDT by Electric Graffiti (Yonder stands your orphan with his gun)
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To: Electric Graffiti

“LOL....you’re right, my AKC Lab has more detailed information on his birth info and pedigree”

My cat’s pedigree goes back to the eight generation :)


46 posted on 08/02/2009 2:36:03 AM PDT by Marguerite (When I'm good, I am very, very good. But! When I'm bad, I'm even better)
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