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Peggy Noonan and Ronald Reagan
July 31, 2009 | Robin Masters

Posted on 08/01/2009 9:15:16 AM PDT by RobinMasters

The wishy washy "reaganism/conservatism" of P. Noonan began long ago before Obama.

Here is what she wrote about Reagan after the Reagan/Mondale Debate in 1984.

After this comment, as you know, The Gipper has been elected in the biggest landslide since George Washington ran unopposed in 1792.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: chat; insaneromneybot; liberalromneybot; mondale; noonan; reagan; romney; romneybot4obama
Excerpts from Gil Troy's book :

http://press.princeton.edu/titles/7920.html


1 posted on 08/01/2009 9:15:16 AM PDT by RobinMasters
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To: RobinMasters

Reagan was the best. PEggy Noonan is now a RINO. She is probably also a Manhattan Notre Dame Catholic. Wishy washy.


2 posted on 08/01/2009 9:16:51 AM PDT by Frantzie (Lou Dobbs - American Hero! Bill O'Reilly = Liar)
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To: RobinMasters

So the Peggy Noonan wing of the Rino party has been evah so wrong....the more she writes the more she is wrong. I actually think she is dumb as well as a tool.


3 posted on 08/01/2009 9:17:35 AM PDT by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: RobinMasters

How about the Al Gore Bush debate where Al Gore was made up to look like Reagan. It was very creepy - not as creepy as Obama but creepy.


4 posted on 08/01/2009 9:18:13 AM PDT by Frantzie (Lou Dobbs - American Hero! Bill O'Reilly = Liar)
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To: iopscusa
Noonan, Brooks, Frum, Parker, etc....are basically just bigots.
5 posted on 08/01/2009 9:22:04 AM PDT by roses of sharon (It is not actual suffering but a taste of better things which excites people to revolt: Hoffer)
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To: iopscusa

Noonan is in love with her own prose and fancies herself a sophisticate in the know, but tool is more accurate.


6 posted on 08/01/2009 9:22:08 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: RobinMasters

Ole Peggy’s been a loon for years...and getting worse.


7 posted on 08/01/2009 9:25:09 AM PDT by ExiledChicagoan (I see a red door and I want it painted black. But that's just me.)
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To: RobinMasters
I'm sorry. Who are you again young lady?

I'm Peggy Noonan and I'm going to be a darling of the media some day.

8 posted on 08/01/2009 9:25:25 AM PDT by McGruff (Where's the REAL birth certificate? - Jim Robinson)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

Spot on.


9 posted on 08/01/2009 9:26:13 AM PDT by maggief
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To: Anti-Bubba182

Noonan talks - - and writes - - like she is balancing a plate on her head.


10 posted on 08/01/2009 9:29:09 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: RobinMasters
Peggy Noonan has been infected by her liberal, wine and cheese, cafeteria Catholic friends. She is embarrassed by all those Southern rednecks that have joined HER GOP. If the GOP ever hopes to win another presidential election, it better not follow the advice of Noonan. It would be the quickest way to defeat.
11 posted on 08/01/2009 9:32:58 AM PDT by Nosterrex
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To: Anti-Bubba182
I just love repeating this about Peggy. Our darling sophisticated Peggy hails from East Rutherford NJ and East Rutherford HS, in the days before Giant stadium when it truly contained pig farms.

Did Peggy matriculate in the Ivies, at one of the 7 Sisters, or even one of the classic Jesuit Catholic Universiteies. No! Paggy went to Fairleigh Dickinson in Madison or Teaneck or Rutherford. Not wishing to insult any graduates here on FR who made good use of the school and do not affect any faux sophisticated bearing, I won't note FDU's universal nickname which was immortalized in Eddie and the Cruisers. But I'm sure Peggy cringes when she hears it

12 posted on 08/01/2009 9:35:17 AM PDT by xkaydet65
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To: RobinMasters
"After this comment, as you know, The Gipper has been elected in the biggest landslide since George Washington ran unopposed in 1792."

Perhaps I'm the only one here actually old enough to remember that debate, well. Reagan wasn't at his best in the first debate, and Mondale wasn't horrible (as had been expected). So, Noonan is correct insomuch as that first debate breathed a little life into Mondale's campaign.

But, then reality caught up to expectation. Reagan was classic, unstoppable Reagan in the second debate and Mondale was, well Mondale. That was the ballgame.

13 posted on 08/01/2009 9:35:40 AM PDT by OldDeckHand (No Socialized Medicine, No Way, No How, No Time)
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To: RobinMasters
I watched that 1984 debate, and I agree with Peggy Noonan’s analysis.

Every Conservative I knew was at least a little bit rattled by Reagan's performance.

On the other hand, 1984 was probably the last time any Conservative agreed with Peggy Noonan about anything.

14 posted on 08/01/2009 9:38:38 AM PDT by zeestephen
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To: RobinMasters

Lotsa folks loved Reagan.

Just remember, Noonan is no conservative.


15 posted on 08/01/2009 9:41:04 AM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: xkaydet65
Not wishing to insult any graduates here on FR who made good use of the school and do not affect any faux sophisticated bearing, I won't note FDU's universal nickname which was immortalized in Eddie and the Cruisers. But I'm sure Peggy cringes when she hears it.

This is the second time you've used that line. By now it's starting to look like you do want to insult and affect. Try it again and it will be clear that that's your goal, so maybe you'd better drop the coyness.

16 posted on 08/01/2009 9:42:23 AM PDT by x
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To: ExiledChicagoan
It is unfortunate, but many people with artistic gifts tend to be a bit unstable.
They also tend to be a bit envious and prideful, a bit more than average.
Noonan does not like it that she is no longer a spokesperson for anyone important, and Noonan does not like it that nobody important pays much attention to what she says -— unless, of course, Noonan picks on a Republican—

Which then, in typical John McCain fashion, gets attention for Noonan!

17 posted on 08/01/2009 9:43:25 AM PDT by Kansas58
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To: RobinMasters
Peggy was an incredible speech writer. Some of Reagan's best moments were with speeches she was a part of.

Reagan had the gift of surrounding himself with good people, and having those people make him better at what he did.
That is a skill that not many people have; and Reagan was never given proper credit for this ability. In my opinion..

18 posted on 08/01/2009 9:50:23 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (I agree with Rick..)
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To: x
I won't note FDU's universal nickname which was immortalized in Eddie and the Cruisers. But I'm sure Peggy cringes when she hears it.

Ok, so what is this nick name? I live in NJ and I don't even know about this.

19 posted on 08/01/2009 9:51:58 AM PDT by 101voodoo
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To: Frantzie
peggy is a lying wh0re for the left... and I was alive and active in helping Reagan win... and this bullsh!t never went down like peggy claims... and certainly not like peggy goes down on the left.

LLS

20 posted on 08/01/2009 9:59:54 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (hussama will never be my president... NEVER!)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

Oh! that is SO right!


21 posted on 08/01/2009 10:02:19 AM PDT by It's me
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To: x
Hey just a little typical college humor....I hear NJ natives call Fairleigh Dickinson, Fairly Ridiculous all the time...UNC is University of Numbskulled Communist, Vanderbilt Commodores = Vandy Comode Doors...Cow Schools, Redneck Harvards, USC - University of Stupid Californicators, etc
22 posted on 08/01/2009 10:05:34 AM PDT by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: Reagan Man

Correct


23 posted on 08/01/2009 10:14:04 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: LibLieSlayer

Thanks for setting the record straight. I dropped reading Peggy years ago in the WSJ and more recently dropped the WSJ. Taranto is an open borders and birther smearer jerk.

The paper got worse when Murdoch bought it. The last year it had journalist who could have been writters for the Wash Post.

Peggy is a RINO lib and her writing for years has been dull. She rode on Reagan’s coattails for ages.


24 posted on 08/01/2009 10:19:44 AM PDT by Frantzie (Lou Dobbs - American Hero! Bill O'Reilly = Liar)
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To: xkaydet65

She sounds like Martha Stewart who was a little Polish girl from Jersey City who eventually moved to slighly nicer Nutley. Nothing wrong with Polish people but she puts on airs like she always grew up in Greenwich. She got her hooks into a WASP Yale graduate attorney who she treated like crap after they got married. Her biography talks about how she became a successful stock broker but in reality it was essentially a penny stock boiler room firm. Her catering partner said she took side jobs without her knowing.

Martha is a real piece of work. Pushed her daughter on the Imclone huckster, got convicted about lying about inside trading etc. A very unpleasant person from the less scenic parts of Jersey like Peggy.

Peggy is a pro-abortion Notre Dame upeer east side catholic.


25 posted on 08/01/2009 10:30:31 AM PDT by Frantzie (Lou Dobbs - American Hero! Bill O'Reilly = Liar)
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To: Frantzie

As much as I don’t want to ruin a great quote about Reagan having the biggest election victory since Washington, that’s not quite accurate.

It was a 49 state victory. The biggest since...

Nixon in 72! The OTHER republican left hates!


26 posted on 08/01/2009 11:00:16 AM PDT by big_pale
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To: RobinMasters

Reagan’s first debate with Mondale WAS a disaster. He fumbled, appeared disoriented and confused. People began to seriously question his faculties. Reagan famously saved himself in the second debate with his “youth and inexperience” quip, but the first debate was in fact an epic fail for the Gipper.


27 posted on 08/01/2009 11:17:32 AM PDT by Huck ("He that lives on hope will die fasting"- Ben Franklin, Poor Richard's Almanac)
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To: RobinMasters

Ps—I never liked Peggy Noonan.


28 posted on 08/01/2009 11:17:56 AM PDT by Huck ("He that lives on hope will die fasting"- Ben Franklin, Poor Richard's Almanac)
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To: iopscusa

Saw where the other day some pundit referred to Noonan & Parker as the “menopausal wing of the GOP.”

Pretty damn funny if you ask me.


29 posted on 08/01/2009 11:24:18 AM PDT by 2nd Bn, 11th Mar (The "P" in democrat stands for patriotism)
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To: roses of sharon

Once Reagan won a lot of rats jumped onboard the Gipper’s ship. They rode the winner as long as possible and then demonstrated their true colors when the party leadership revealed its weakness.
Many of the leaders were ship jumping rats themselves. A rat by any other name is still a rodent.


30 posted on 08/01/2009 11:25:15 AM PDT by em2vn
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To: Frantzie
Absolutely... and she is still riding on President Reagan's coat tails.

LLS

31 posted on 08/01/2009 11:46:56 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (hussama will never be my president... NEVER!)
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To: RobinMasters

Please:

Can we ban Peggy Noonan, David Brooks, Kathleen Parker, and — who else can we add to this list? Can we ban them from FR?! If they ever were Conservatives, they are now WORSE than Liberals — they ENABLE the enemies of the Constitution and proponents of Statist Socialism!


32 posted on 08/01/2009 12:05:03 PM PDT by patriot preacher (To be a good American Citizen and a Christian IS NOT a contradiction. (www.mygration.blogspot.com))
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To: Frantzie

Martha Stewart, wow I’d forgotten her similar background. Martha’s first successful foray was to finagle getting herself named Queen of The Xavier HS Military Ball. A very big affair in NYC Catholic circles in the 50s and 60s. I think Martha’s Ball was in the late 50s or very early 60s.


33 posted on 08/01/2009 1:36:21 PM PDT by xkaydet65
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To: RobinMasters
Would you like her better if she always agreed with you and told Reagan what she thought he wanted to hear?

Staffers can be early warning systems for candidates and pick up on where their weak points are before the candidates are aware of potential troubles.

Peggy overreacted with Reagan, but more recent candidates and presidents could have benefited from a little criticism while they could still put it into effect.

34 posted on 08/01/2009 1:44:07 PM PDT by x
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To: xkaydet65

Maybe the 1940s. She is a real striver. She has had some real “dodgy” business dealings and is a witch. The poor daughter.


35 posted on 08/01/2009 1:55:45 PM PDT by Frantzie (Lou Dobbs - American Hero! Bill O'Reilly = Liar)
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To: cleveland gop

Reagan ping.


36 posted on 08/02/2009 11:27:13 AM PDT by ChicagoConservative27 (Obozo the clown)
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