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1 posted on 08/01/2009 10:05:40 AM PDT by Liz
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To: Liz

OMG - it’s only politics. when I read the headline, I thought he was getting divorced again.


2 posted on 08/01/2009 10:07:36 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("Media: quit making things up." --Sarah Palin)
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To: Liz

The notion that there is a difference between a liberal Democrat and a liberal Republican, is a fallacy.


3 posted on 08/01/2009 10:09:50 AM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: Liz

Just what we need - another Republican who can’t keep his pants zipped...


4 posted on 08/01/2009 10:13:13 AM PDT by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
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To: stephenjohnbanker; TommyDale; calcowgirl
Watching Giuliani navigate politics is like watching a horror film festival.....he's got more sequels than Bela Lugosi. Drive a stake into his presidential aspirations and he rises from the dead, and climbs out of his coffin to wreak havoc on our political process. Giuliani spent $64M and got one delegate (that he shared).

Rooty's got the resilience of Count Dracula and the resume of a calculating conman. He porked his mistress on the taxpayers' dime then hid the theft in obscure city agencies.

His secrecy about his multiple global businesses also served to sink his candidacy.

Even more alarming, Giuliani is the lapdog of the Endless War Hopefuls---those evil pukeneos------ w/ multiple trillion-dollar US war budgets dancing in their fool heads. The Kristol/Podhoretz Crime Family should be deported NOW. They are sucking up to Obama as we type----since the Jan 2008 power shift.

The neotermites scatter to wherever the Beltway winds are blowing. The neocon traffic under Obama's desk is getting fierce---OTOH, Obama's sex life is improving (/snic).

Keep in mind----Obama's closest advisors-----COS Rahm Emanuel, David Axelrod, Dennis Ross, Joe Biden, and Hillary Clinton----reflect an ironclad, single issue neocon orientation (even though none of these individuals are actually card-carrying neocons).

Rudy's only hope.

" P-l-e-a-s-e make me sound conservative."

"My stupid 2008 advisors told me I didn't need those redneck gun nuts and
those dumb pro-life Christian conservatives to make a primary showing."

" They're killing me on FR just b/c I dumped my wife for my mistress, don't talk
to my kids, was honored by NARAL, donated to Planned Parenthood, marched
for gay rights under the NAMBLA banner, appointed gays and pedophiles
to top city jobs, and provided a sanctuary city for illegals."

5 posted on 08/01/2009 10:15:17 AM PDT by Liz (When people fear govt, we have tyranny; when govt fears the people, we have freedom.)
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To: Liz

Rudy should take one of the NY Senate seats. It would be nice if he would take out Schumer. Sure Rudy would be another RINO type in the Senate, but he would be 1,000x better than Chuck-U.


8 posted on 08/01/2009 10:17:30 AM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: Liz

Rudy Giuliani’s term as mayor was one of the best things that ever happened to NYC. He’d be a godsend over Patterson.


17 posted on 08/01/2009 10:42:22 AM PDT by GVnana (Sarah for America)
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To: Liz

I don’t think he wants to challenge Hillry.
I think she will drop Sec State and quit being NObama’s mouthpiece and go for Governorship. Keeps her closer home for keeping an eye on Bill, also.


31 posted on 08/01/2009 1:59:30 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: Liz; kabar; Vaquero; Reagan Man; Clemenza; All
I don't know where you are posting from, Liz, because you haven't identified a state. I am going to have to assume from your subheading that it's not NY. As a disclaimer, I will say that I have known Rudy personally for about 15 years. He's not a friend, but I could have him on the phone on Monday if I wanted to. I would not have voted for him, had he been in the NY primary. I would have voted for Thompson, but he was out, so I voted for Romney. This is all a declaimer, of course.

Rudy is not an ideal choice to be President, because he is a liberal on the most important social issues. We're all aware of what they are, no need to get into it. But on crime and quality of life, there is no better politician in America. The reason I assume that you are not a NYer, is because you would already know all of this, had you been living here in 1994. Almost over night, NYC returned from unlivable to the greatest city in the world. Graffiti vanished from buildings and subway cars, the crime rate went down. The murder rate went down. Porn shops, massage shops, hookers drug dealers and squeegee guys disappeared. Trash got picked up. Women could go jogging in Central Park at sunset without getting gang raped. Rudy did all this. If he held national office, I have no doubt he'd clean up the world a lot too. I don't want him there, but who wouldn't prefer him to Obama, the same way they'd prefer Zell Miller, or a social liberal like Joe Lieberman.

The point is this: It's nice to be principled, and say “we only accept Conservatives who call themselves Republicans,” but that kind of thinking will lose you every election in NY. There are no conservatives who run for office in NY. It's a wast of time and money, because they can't possibly win. Rudy Giuliani would be infinitely better than Dave Patterson as Governor, the same way he was infinitely better than Dave Dinkins as Mayor. You're rooting for NY to fail if you're rooting against him.

32 posted on 08/01/2009 2:05:41 PM PDT by presidio9 ("Don't shoot. Let 'em burn.")
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