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U.S. Must Address Homegrown Terror Threat
newsmax.com ^ | Walid Phares

Posted on 08/01/2009 6:30:29 PM PDT by Iam1ru1-2

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Stealth analysis

“Saifullah” of North Carolina spent his 20s and 30s (or so we know) in his rural home. His neighbors saw him walking the dog and never heard him threatening anyone, per the media reports. By popular American standards he would be a regular guy. But by jihadi doctrine he was performing taqiyya. Combatants “in the path of Allah,” as instructed by ideologues to “fake” normalcy, and lie if needed, about their real beliefs so that the deception of the enemy is full.

The question is how many other American “Saifullahs” are practicing taqiyya and since when? Are the urban jihadists in numbers greater than what we think or our defense and national security institutions thinks? How many U.S.-born terror combatants have been able to perform perfect taqiyya for 10 or 20 years until today? Does our government know what this doctrine is all about and, more importantly, are authorities educating the body of our defense apparatus regarding this stealthy threat dormant among us?

Steps to be taken

In view of this benchmark discovery in the aftermath of a series of jihadi arrests performed by law enforcement this year, all indicating that a “jihadi system” is expanding inside the country I strongly recommend the following steps:

# That the Department of Homeland Security quickly issues an assessment of this growing urban jihadi web and forms a task force to study the depth of the penetration on a national scale.

# That the president speaks on the issue of the arrest as a national security breach and warns the public from possible other urban cells growing and operating in America. President Barack Obama must not ignore what is becoming a direct national security threat to the American people.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Philosophy; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: americadistan; americanjihad; bho44; bhodhs; homegrown; jihadinamerica; korananimals; subversion; trop; walidphares

1 posted on 08/01/2009 6:30:30 PM PDT by Iam1ru1-2
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To: Iam1ru1-2

Look at the mayhem and confusion only two of them were able to cause (The DC snipers) and multiply that by 10,000.


2 posted on 08/01/2009 6:34:59 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (If we're an Empire, why are Cuba, Iraq, Philippines, Japan & Germany independent?)
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To: Iam1ru1-2

Nothing at all to see here.

Keep repeating: “Diversity is strength.”


3 posted on 08/01/2009 6:36:08 PM PDT by bill1952 (Choice is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: Iam1ru1-2

Oh—I thought this was about obama. :)


4 posted on 08/01/2009 6:40:11 PM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like what you say))
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To: Iam1ru1-2

War on terror will be subverted to apply to anyone that the government (those in power) deem to be too inconvenient. The problem has been allowed to fester intentionally to facilitate more power. Get ready for the iron fist Americans.


5 posted on 08/01/2009 6:46:12 PM PDT by LuxMaker (The Constitution is a mere thing of wax in the hands of the judiciary, Thomas J 1819)
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To: freeangel

That’s President Camacho, to you.


6 posted on 08/01/2009 6:46:51 PM PDT by rabidralph (http://www.thealaskafundtrust.com/ http://www.sarahpac.com)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Most people do not even realize that those two were Islamic terrorists. I used to speak to a guy from a West Coast Sheriffs Dept. He said that their biggest fear was that Islamists would just take to the streets with automatic weapons and mow us down.


7 posted on 08/01/2009 6:47:07 PM PDT by Islaminaction
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8 posted on 08/01/2009 6:47:17 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: Iam1ru1-2

The political aspect must be addressed also.


9 posted on 08/01/2009 6:48:04 PM PDT by Islaminaction
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To: Islaminaction
Where are they getting the automatic weapons? To get a fully auto weapon these day they would of had to of been imported in the 80’s and you would need a special license to own one. Today one runs 10-15 thousand dollars. So if they have fully auto weapons where are they getting them?
10 posted on 08/01/2009 6:59:03 PM PDT by guitarplayer1953 (Warning: Some words may be misspelled/ You will get over it / Klingon is my 1st language)
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To: Iam1ru1-2

How about we start by clearing out the terrorist cell that set up shop at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave ?


11 posted on 08/01/2009 7:01:14 PM PDT by digger48
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To: Iam1ru1-2

How about we start by clearing out the terrorist cell that set up shop at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue ?


12 posted on 08/01/2009 7:01:41 PM PDT by digger48
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To: rabidralph
That’s President Camacho, to you.

Yes, and he has Monday Night Rehabilitation in store for us all.
13 posted on 08/01/2009 7:02:16 PM PDT by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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To: guitarplayer1953

I don’t know how difficult it is (or isn’t ) to convert semi-auto AK, AR etc but barring that, there’s apparently plenty of full autos in Mexico & points south.


14 posted on 08/01/2009 7:02:40 PM PDT by 1066AD
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To: Iam1ru1-2

There are a ton of them in Northern Virginia.


15 posted on 08/01/2009 7:09:06 PM PDT by La Lydia
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To: Iam1ru1-2

Thank the Bastards that let these people in, they do not belong here and we were NOT asked this is OUR country!


16 posted on 08/01/2009 7:11:58 PM PDT by Cheetahcat (Zero the Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: digger48
"set up shop at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave?"

Didn't you hear, they changed the address of the White House to 666 Chicago Way.

17 posted on 08/01/2009 7:12:33 PM PDT by Iam1ru1-2 (They draw near to me with their lips, but their heart is far from me - Jesus)
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To: Iam1ru1-2

Why in the world would anybody join a “religion” that demands that they turn into homicidal maniacs?

I honestly don’t know why, but becoming a mass killer seems to have a lot of appeal to a wide variety of people. The essential problem is that Islam is a death cult. Anybody who joins it is a threat to civilization.


18 posted on 08/01/2009 7:15:40 PM PDT by livius
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To: LuxMaker
They may pontificate, they may set apart those who oppose their political philosophies..
They will destroy, denounce and stigmatize those who would never toe to their traitorous ways.
To them, as millions of us must hopefully not be induced to deliberate, stand your ground and and those who would enslave us ask this simple question.....
“Are you prepared to contain those, by force if necessary, who would display their discord and remain firm against their vitriolic serfdom?”

If they are affirmative in their answer, suggest to them that they bid their loved ones farewell as they embark on a dark journey to deprive others what they would maintain for themselves by force. It will be a long day indeed.
I fear we may be respectively crossing the Rubicon if our national “leaders” willingly discount our admonitions.

Despotic oligarchs may only succeed with the aid of their willing sycophants.

Where do you stand?

LFOD
Live Free or Die

19 posted on 08/01/2009 7:16:18 PM PDT by LFOD (Presently - Bagram AF Afghanistan)
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To: guitarplayer1953

How long has it been like that (licenses)? I last spoke to him about 1 1/2 to 2 years ago.

I am sure the money aspect would be no problem though.


20 posted on 08/01/2009 7:17:40 PM PDT by Islaminaction
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To: 1066AD
I have looked into converting my ak47 onto a fully auto. You have to change some sear plate and springs but if you had a shop and had education on how to do it it would not be that hard. I would not take the chance of bringing a rifle back over the boarder. Now if they have someone over seas shipping drop in firing assembles then it could be done very easy.

They can keep the full autos they become very unstable when shooting full clips. I'd rather lay back and use my Romak PLS sniper that shoots a 7.62x54 which is larger than a .308 and is accurate up to 1300 meter which over 3/4 of a mile. Their small arms aks are 7.62x39 which will not have the distance as my sniper rifle. So I could pick them off before they could come into range with their weapons.

21 posted on 08/01/2009 7:19:19 PM PDT by guitarplayer1953 (Warning: Some words may be misspelled/ You will get over it / Klingon is my 1st language)
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To: guitarplayer1953
“Where are they getting the automatic weapons? To get a fully auto weapon these day they would of had to of been imported in the 80’s and you would need a special license to own one. Today one runs 10-15 thousand dollars. So if they have fully auto weapons where are they getting them?”


If it were me (hypothetically, of course) I'd import them through Mexico. All you need is one yacht's worth(easily several dozen) that you could bring over from Somalia.

But of course, they do not really need full auto weapons. Those are only more effective than semi-autos in rather specialized circumstances.

The fact that the Islamists did not copycat the DC snipers shows that either they do not have much operational “reach” or that they are so obsessed with topping 911 that they disdain lesser strikes or that Iraq and Iran have been very effective in the “flypaper” strategy in attracting and disposing of jihadists much closer to home.

22 posted on 08/01/2009 7:23:40 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: Islaminaction
They are a different class of gun and as far as I know they are like a class 3 and they have to have a license lots of paper work to own one and you must have them registered with the feds.
23 posted on 08/01/2009 7:25:01 PM PDT by guitarplayer1953 (Warning: Some words may be misspelled/ You will get over it / Klingon is my 1st language)
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To: marktwain
What was the DC sniper using as a weapon?
24 posted on 08/01/2009 7:30:24 PM PDT by guitarplayer1953 (Warning: Some words may be misspelled/ You will get over it / Klingon is my 1st language)
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To: guitarplayer1953

I don’t know much about guns. But I just remember him telling me that Islamos walking into a mall or stadium and armed to the teeth was very possible.


25 posted on 08/01/2009 7:35:17 PM PDT by Islaminaction
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To: Islaminaction
that's why I don't go to large group areas. Look what a couple of kids with guns did a Columbine.
26 posted on 08/01/2009 7:44:12 PM PDT by guitarplayer1953 (Warning: Some words may be misspelled/ You will get over it / Klingon is my 1st language)
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To: guitarplayer1953
What was the DC sniper using as a weapon?

They used a Busmaster XM-15 .223 caliber rifle. It is basicly a clone of the AR-15 semi-automatic. I have seen reports that it was converted to fire 3 round bursts, but I have not corraborated that, so I doubt it. It did have a reflex type red dot sight on it.

27 posted on 08/01/2009 7:44:47 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: guitarplayer1953
What was the DC sniper using as a weapon?

They used a Bushmaster XM-15 .223 caliber rifle. It is basically a clone of the AR-15 semi-automatic. I have seen reports that it was converted to fire 3 round bursts, but I have not corroborated that, so I doubt it. It did have a reflex type red dot sight on it.

28 posted on 08/01/2009 7:45:46 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Spelling errors corrected on the second post.


29 posted on 08/01/2009 7:46:34 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

I’m curious of how it could be modified to shot a 3 round burst. I’ve seen guy hold a gun at their hip and hook their finger into their belt loop and pull the trigger and as the gun rocks back and forth it is like a fully auto rifle.


30 posted on 08/01/2009 7:51:16 PM PDT by guitarplayer1953 (Warning: Some words may be misspelled/ You will get over it / Klingon is my 1st language)
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To: guitarplayer1953
The BATF looks ill on distributing information on how to convert semi-autos. As I said, I doubt that it was converted, but it could have been done with some radical reconfiguring of the fire control mechanism. It is not that easy to convert semi-autos to full-autos that are more functional than the semi-autos they come from.

A gun that fires only full auto can be created that is unreliable and difficult to control with a little less effort, but what would be the point?

31 posted on 08/01/2009 7:56:32 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain
You are correct a fully auto would only be effective in a crowded area with no other people being armed.
32 posted on 08/01/2009 8:01:40 PM PDT by guitarplayer1953 (Warning: Some words may be misspelled/ You will get over it / Klingon is my 1st language)
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To: Iam1ru1-2

[... how many other American “Saifullahs” are practicing taqiyya? ...]

Ha! That’s easy. Most of the United States Congress and the Senate are stealth terrorists.


33 posted on 08/01/2009 8:43:52 PM PDT by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: LuxMaker
War on terror will be subverted to apply to anyone that the government (those in power) deem to be too inconvenient. The problem has been allowed to fester intentionally to facilitate more power. Get ready for the iron fist Americans.

This eventuality could be seen coming miles away. Any "war on terror" absent immigration control is bound to be turned upon Americans. It does not make sense to continue massive Islamic immigration to the US. Nor does it make sense to continue military support of the Bosnian and Kosovar Jihadists.

34 posted on 08/01/2009 9:42:59 PM PDT by Kells
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To: randomhero97

Yeah. I wonder what that would entail?


35 posted on 08/01/2009 10:09:30 PM PDT by rabidralph (http://www.thealaskafundtrust.com/ http://www.sarahpac.com)
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To: guitarplayer1953

>You are correct a fully auto would only be effective in a crowded area with no other people being armed.

Not so, full auto is also effective in ambushes.


36 posted on 08/02/2009 6:27:00 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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