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Is this really it? (re: possible Obama's Kenyan B.C. - Attny Taitz) Click on the link
orlytaitzesq.com ^ | 8/2/2009 | rxsid

Posted on 08/02/2009 1:35:53 AM PDT by rxsid

Edited on 08/06/2009 12:10:02 AM PDT by John Robinson. [history]

Attorney Taitz filed a NOTICE OF MOTION AND MOTION to Expedite authentication, MOTION for Issuance of Letters Rogatory for authenticity of Kenyan birth certificate filed by Plaintiff Alan Keyes PhD.

Barry's Kenyan B.C.??

Special Motion for leave

http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/blog1/ (site has been the target of hackers, proceed with caution — John)


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To: ObligedFriend
Actually, I would like to see photographs of her breastfeeding the baby she took to show Susan, she would have made history; I believe although spontaneous lactation can happen in furry mammals, it's somewhat rare in human beings. Must check.
11,651 posted on 04/18/2013 11:09:31 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Come Visit Tasmania!)
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Checked. It happens. Usually due to some disease process. See your doctor.
I mentioned that only because in one interview, Susan Blake used the words...she nursed the baby...

And suspicious me immmediately thought, must have been a case of spontaneous lactation.


11,652 posted on 04/18/2013 11:21:10 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Come Visit Tasmania!)
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To: LucyT

Thanks for the info and ping.


11,653 posted on 04/19/2013 3:16:56 AM PDT by milford421 ("All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." (Edmund Burke))
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To: Brown Deer

I was going to reply to this post but it is not directed to anyone....darn!


11,654 posted on 04/19/2013 4:29:25 AM PDT by GregNH (I would love to visit Tasmania!)
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To: Fred Nerks; Brown Deer
LOL TrollBeGone
11,655 posted on 04/19/2013 7:55:43 AM PDT by GregNH (I would love to visit Tasmania!)
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To: GregNH; Fred Nerks; LucyT

LMAO, can’t stop LOL


11,656 posted on 04/19/2013 12:00:55 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Brown Deer

I knew it would be worth the effort. I work in Cambridge a few blocks from all the commotion and couldn’t get into the office this morning so I played at the computer for a while.....glad I could give you a chuckle. :D


11,657 posted on 04/19/2013 12:03:52 PM PDT by GregNH (I would love to visit Tasmania!)
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To: Fred Nerks

The part in bold in your post #11618 clarifies it, makes it clear what you have been saying.


11,658 posted on 04/19/2013 12:18:22 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: WildHighlander57
The part in bold in your post #11618 clarifies it, makes it clear what you have been saying.

you really should have known that if you had been paying attention. That information has been around for years, it's been referred to over and over. She said she was flying out to Boston that same day, according to Susan, and Susan also said, at that early interview, that she never saw her again.

I'll say it again and bold the entire phrase:

...there's no way she would have said she was going to visit her husband in Boston because he was at Harvard as no one knew then that he was ever going to be going to Harvard. Stanley Ann flew out that day to go to Boston, and what we should be asking, is...if she was really going to Boston, who did she know there?

11,659 posted on 04/19/2013 1:45:57 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Come Visit Tasmania!)
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To: GregNH

Where do I send the money - and does it work more than once?


11,660 posted on 04/19/2013 1:47:23 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Come Visit Tasmania!)
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To: Fred Nerks

In other words can you enter multiple names? Absolutely!


11,661 posted on 04/19/2013 3:08:01 PM PDT by GregNH (If you can't fight, please find a good place to hide!)
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To: GregNH

I’m about to make a list...mind you, I would be quite happy to pay $19.95 for each one.


11,662 posted on 04/19/2013 3:29:05 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Come Visit Tasmania!)
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To: Fred Nerks; Brown Deer

I was thinking that you and BD would get free copies so we could work out bugs.....


11,663 posted on 04/19/2013 3:32:44 PM PDT by GregNH (If you can't fight, please find a good place to hide!)
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To: GregNH

Are you suggesting a test-run, say between now and Christmas, to make sure it works?
Whoops! It just crossed my mind, don’t the Mods already have one?
If it’s the same model, there’s something wrong...it’s either their aim that’s off, or the bullseye needs adjustment.


11,664 posted on 04/19/2013 3:52:39 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Come Visit Tasmania!)
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To: Fred Nerks

The search engine the mods use has the wrong “ism” key word.....


11,665 posted on 04/19/2013 5:01:07 PM PDT by GregNH (If you can't fight, please find a good place to hide!)
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To: GregNH

They should start with vouyerism, egotism and fascism.


11,666 posted on 04/19/2013 5:18:37 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Come Visit Tasmania!)
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To: All; Brown Deer; David; WildHighlander57; Fantasywriter; LucyT

Per Brown Deer:

“Sorry, I like David, cannot give you a link to any of my personal communications with him. Are you really that ignorant?”

All:

As luck would have it Jerome Corsi was on with Mark Gillar this week promoting his new book and although he says the forged BC issue is “politically a dead horse,” Corsi stands behind all of his published investigations on Barry’s origins and Corsi says that he believes Barry will ultimately be found to have been born in Kenya.

Of course, included in Corsi’s prior published investigations is the finding that Stanley Ann Dunham IS Barry’s mom and that her UW transcrips are accurate so she was at UW during the 1961-62 school year.

“Audio: Dr. Jerome Corsi; Obama Identity Document Fraud Issue Politically A Dead Horse”

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2013/04/corsi-obama-identity-fraud-issue-dead-horse.html


11,667 posted on 04/19/2013 5:26:28 PM PDT by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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To: Seizethecarp

Thanks for posting this link. I listened to this interview earlier today. It was fascinating. The part where Corsi said Obama’s Kenyan birth wd eventually be proven caught my attention too. Corsi is right on that score. The truth will out, as the British say.

His new book is called Bad Samaritans & is about how the ACLU is destroying our first amendment rights. Sounds like another winner from Dr. Corsi.


11,668 posted on 04/19/2013 5:37:02 PM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: Fantasywriter; WildHighlander57; Cold Case Posse Supporter; LucyT

With reference to:

“Audio: Dr. Jerome Corsi; Obama Identity Document Fraud Issue Politically A Dead Horse”

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2013/04/corsi-obama-identity-fraud-issue-dead-horse.html

IMO, Corsi appears no longer be involved with the Cold Case Posse investigation, perhaps because it has become a criminal investigation...and Corsi is now focused on promoting his new book having nothing to do with the BC forgery issue and wants people to focus on and buy his new book.

Corsi knows fully well that the BC forgery issue is not dead as a criminal issue or as a political issue if the hard evidence can result in an indictment of the forger.


11,669 posted on 04/19/2013 5:39:30 PM PDT by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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To: Seizethecarp

I listened v carefully to the part of the interview where he said the forged BC issue is dead. It sounded to me as if he was saying [paraphrase] ‘the forgery has been 100% proven beyond the shadow of a doubt & yet no one will act’. So in that sense he considers it dead.

I just have to wonder if he’s not selling Arpaio & Zullo a bit short. No one like them has been involved in the criminal side of the forgery to date. What investigative journalists & civil suits, etc., have failed to accomplish, the CCP may well do in spades.

I.e.: a new sheriff is in town. Before we write the BC issue off just yet, let’s see what he can do.


11,670 posted on 04/19/2013 5:49:25 PM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: Seizethecarp; LucyT; Fred Nerks; David; GregNH
Corsi appears no longer be involved with the Cold Case Posse investigation...

He hasn't been involved with them for quite some time now. At least six months.
11,671 posted on 04/19/2013 6:05:56 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Seizethecarp; Brown Deer
...Of course, included in Corsi’s prior published investigations is the finding that Stanley Ann Dunham IS Barry’s mom and that her UW transcrips are accurate so she was at UW during the 1961-62 school year.

Show me, don't tell me. Corsi would have published what he was sent - establishing if what he was provided with was genuine or accurate would have been quite beyond him. The U of WA had very stringent identification requirements upon enrollment. No one has seen the enrollment document which would have been accompanied by photo ID of the student. You've got a long way to go before you can say with any certainty who Ann or Anna Obama was.

You're trying to put the lid on the question because it doesn't suit your scenario. You still have it in your head that she was the teen-age lover of Frank Marshall Davis, who persuaded the KGB to pay for her flight to Kenya.

11,672 posted on 04/19/2013 6:57:39 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Come Visit Tasmania!)
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To: Fred Nerks

There ya go again inserting the Val Mal theory into the innocent minds of under age FReepers...shame on you!


11,673 posted on 04/19/2013 7:12:08 PM PDT by GregNH (If you can't fight, please find a good place to hide!)
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To: GregNH

Yep. This elderly person sitting on a veranda in Australia with a view of the Tamar River is grooming the youngsters out there sort of like the wicked witch fed Hansel and Gretel with marzipan biscuits...

Socrates maybe? Corrupting our youth? Good heavens, that’s been done already, John Dewey the grandfather of Alice Dewey, mentor to Stanley Ann Dunham...did all that.


11,674 posted on 04/19/2013 7:53:06 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Come Visit Tasmania!)
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To: GregNH

I don’t even read that rubbish anymore, I wouldn’t mind if it was at least a little creative, but it isn’t. He lifted the title and the idea from a Youtube video and has been hounding me with it ever since. Tell me, honestly, does ‘Val-Mal’ sound like ANYTHING I WOULD WRITE?

If I wanted to get something like that across, trust me, I would write a number of paragraphs about it. You know, in aussie-english so that I could be accused of being incoherent.

He’s like the LFBC. It’s also a bit from here and a bit from there all jumbled together and no one knows who owns the darn thing.


11,675 posted on 04/19/2013 8:07:04 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Come Visit Tasmania!)
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To: All; Fred Nerks; WildHighlander57; Fantasywriter; LucyT

According from Jack Cashill’s article:

http://www.wnd.com/2012/06/biographer-admits-there-was-no-obama-family/

“One Obama friend, a Cambodian named Kiri Tith, knew the senior Obama ‘very well.’ He had also met Ann through a different channel. ‘But he had no idea,’ writes Maraniss, ‘that Ann knew Obama, let alone got hapai (pregnant) by him, married him, and had a son with him.’”

IIRC, Kiri Tith made these comments on a personal blog that may no longer be available.

Kiri Tith is pictured and named at the Nachmanoff party photo with Sr a copy of which is here:

http://keywiki.org/index.php/Barak_Obama

The quotes from Kiri Tith make him a potential living witness who could verify that “Ann” Dunham WAS AT UH at the SAME TIME AS SR., just as the UH transcripts, UW transcripts and INS FOIA documents corroborate.

Pictures of Ann Dunham were all over the media at the time Kith made the quoted comments above, so it is certain that he would have noticed if the Ann who the media portrayed as POTUS Barry’s mom was NOT the same Ann he knew at UH.

Kiri Tith also did NOT associate BHO Sr. with any other Ann, Anne, or Anna as a wife or mother of a different son (the claimed Asian or Filipina Anna Obama who mysteriously went to Seattle in early 1961 with a secret baby of BHO Sr.

In addition to refuting the “Dreams” Narrative of the “happy family,” IIRC, on his blog, Tith said BHO Sr. was a big communist and against American foreign policy. The Obots obviously didn’t get to Tith and “advise” him to stick to Barry’s Dreams Narrative.


11,676 posted on 04/19/2013 9:29:09 PM PDT by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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To: Seizethecarp
Neither Kiri Tith nor any of the people who offered copies of their letters to a segment headed REMINISCENSES on the CAMBODIANA website remembered any woman associated with the kenyan student. That segment has btw, been removed from the website, but here you go, here's the letter written by Mr Tith:


11,677 posted on 04/19/2013 9:45:55 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Come Visit Tasmania!)
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To: Seizethecarp

Seriously, methinks thou dost protest too much.


11,678 posted on 04/19/2013 9:48:22 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Come Visit Tasmania!)
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To: Fred Nerks

“Neither Kiri Tith nor any of the people who offered copies of their letters to a segment headed REMINISCENSES on the CAMBODIANA website remembered any woman associated with the kenyan student.”

But, according to Maraniss, Tith remembers Ann Dunham at UH at the same time as BHO Sr.!


11,679 posted on 04/19/2013 9:59:31 PM PDT by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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To: Seizethecarp
You're not thinking this through, you've got your knickers in a knot and you're spittling all over the monitor screen -this is what he said, in your own words:

“One Obama friend, a Cambodian named Kiri Tith, knew the senior Obama ‘very well.’ He had also met Ann through a different channel. ‘But he had no idea,’ writes Maraniss, ‘that Ann knew Obama, let alone got hapai (pregnant) by him, married him, and had a son with him.’”

THIS IS THE GIRL KIRI TITH REMEMBERS:

YOUR NACHMANOFF WIKI ENTRY LINK

Taken in Hawaii in 1961 at the house of Arnie Nachmanoff and Suzie Nachmanoff (Pearl Harbor): (from left) Kiri Tith (then Cambodia), Kitaichi (Japan), Marda (USA), Ichiro (Japan), Suzie Nachmanoff (Host, USA), Dave (USA), Kunio (Japan), Bob (USA), Rajapakse (Sri Lanka), Barak Obama (Kenya), Anne (USA)

THE GIRL SITTING NEXT TO HIM HAPPENS TO BE NAMED ANNE. AND YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE WHO INSISTS ON IDENTIFYING HER AS AN ASIAN WOMAN NAMED ANNA.

I HAVEN'T GOT A CLUE WHO SHE IS.

11,680 posted on 04/19/2013 10:11:54 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Come Visit Tasmania!)
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To: Fred Nerks

Pictures of Ann Dunham were all over the media at the time Kith made the quoted comments above, so it is certain that he would have noticed if the Ann who the media portrayed as POTUS Barry’s mom was NOT the same Ann he knew at UH.

Kiri Tith also did NOT associate BHO Sr. with any other Ann, Anne, or Anna as a wife or mother of a different son (the claimed Asian or Filipina Anna Obama who mysteriously went to Seattle in early 1961 with a secret baby of BHO Sr.


11,681 posted on 04/19/2013 10:13:24 PM PDT by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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To: Seizethecarp

He knew Ann. He’s shown sitting in the same room with ANNE. She was a student. Someone who thought they knew her (I didn’t bother to keep the story) said she was of Japanese ancestry.
ANN OR ANNE IS THE GIRL HE REMEMBERS.


11,682 posted on 04/19/2013 10:19:36 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Come Visit Tasmania!)
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To: Seizethecarp

Let’s go back a little in time now shall we...when you were utterly convinced that the father was Frank Marshall Davis, and the model who was posing naked for him in 1958 was Stanley Ann Dunham who was still in high school, and the KGB paid the expenses for her to deliver her child in Kenya, how much attention were you then prepared to lavish on investigations into how much attention the kenyan student was paying to a young lady whose name was shown as ANNE/USA at a social gathering at the Nachmanoff’s in 1961?

Not one second. You change your attacks according to what-ever conflicts with your latest theory.

And now you’ve read a book or two. Congratulations. Just don’t think you can get away with beating me over the head with quotes from them. I am not a groupie.


11,683 posted on 04/19/2013 10:41:07 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Come Visit Tasmania!)
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To: Fred Nerks; WildHighlander57; Fantasywriter

“Someone who thought they knew her (I didn’t bother to keep the story) said she was of Japanese ancestry.
ANN OR ANNE IS THE GIRL HE REMEMBERS.”

IIRC, Kith was the one who gave the last name for Anne as being a Japanese name.

Maraniss reports that Kith ALSO know Ann Dunham specifically AWAY from Sr. so as we have seen a picture of Sr. and Anne in the same room at the Nachmanoff party, Japanese Anne and Ann Dunham are not the same person in Kith’s mind.

All:

The Mal-Val grooming program includes dangling tasty tidbit insinuations that Asian Anne at the Nachmanoff party with Sr. is a possible secret wife of Sr. , the supposed “Anna Obama” in Seattle in early 1961 getting a different baby son from Sr. babysat by Mary Toutonghi.


11,684 posted on 04/19/2013 10:51:58 PM PDT by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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To: Fred Nerks

“Let’s go back a little in time now shall we...when you were utterly convinced that the father was Frank Marshall Davis, and the model who was posing naked for him in 1958 was Stanley Ann Dunham who was still in high school, and the KGB paid the expenses for her to deliver her child in Kenya...”

Link please.

(don’t bother...you won’t find one)

I have never once posted that I was ever “utterly convinced” or in any way certain of any of those things.

I have repeatedly corrected you on that, yet you persist on making deceitful statements about what I have posted. FReepers can draw their own conclusions about your chronic deceptive and abusive posting history.


11,685 posted on 04/19/2013 10:59:10 PM PDT by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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To: Seizethecarp
Maraniss reports that Kith ALSO know Ann Dunham specifically AWAY from Sr. so as we have seen a picture of Sr. and Anne in the same room at the Nachmanoff party, Japanese Anne and Ann Dunham are not the same person in Kith’s mind.

You know what's in Kith's mind and you take what Maraniss writes as being gospel, do you? ROFLMBO! Give me a break. Take your medication, have a good lie down, and when you feel better...stay away from me.

11,686 posted on 04/19/2013 11:05:26 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Come Visit Tasmania!)
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To: Seizethecarp

Bye bye. You need help, seriously.


11,687 posted on 04/19/2013 11:07:25 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Come Visit Tasmania!)
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To: Seizethecarp

11,688 posted on 04/19/2013 11:11:14 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Come Visit Tasmania!)
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11,689 posted on 04/19/2013 11:20:53 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Come Visit Tasmania!)
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To: Seizethecarp

Seizethecarp, many thanks for this latest info from Corsi. He is staying the course and sticking with what he has written regarding where Ann dunham Obama was in 1961.


11,690 posted on 04/20/2013 6:59:47 AM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: WildHighlander57; Seizethecarp; Fred Nerks; LucyT; GregNH; David
Seizethecarp, many thanks for this latest info from Corsi. He is staying the course and sticking with what he has written...

and btw, 0bama's father was NOT Frank Marshall Davis.

That's just another fantasy...

...but he is staying the course and sticking with what has has written! ;-)

Not so sure about seize and the flipflopping between his Mal/Val and FMD stories: "If Obama’s actual father is Frank Marshall Davis, and it can be proved to save Obama’s presidency, Obama is NBC regardless of what Stanley Ann put on the BC, or where Obama was born.
11,691 posted on 04/20/2013 7:47:47 AM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: All; Brown Deer; Fred Nerks; WildHighlander57; Fantasywriter; LucyT; Cold Case Posse Supporter

“Not so sure about seize and the flipflopping between his Mal/Val and FMD stories: “If Obama’s actual father is Frank Marshall Davis, and it can be proved to save Obama’s presidency, Obama is NBC regardless of what Stanley Ann put on the BC, or where Obama was born.”

All:

Both Brown Deer and Fred Nerks are resorting to intentional deception by twisting my use of the conditional IF sentence structure. This is dishonest and an attempt to mislead FReepers and smear me.

I have never declared, claimed, asserted or concluded that FM Davis was Barry’s dad. Being keen on forensics, what I assert is that only DNA studies could prove who the biological father is.

I HAVE put forward two scenarios under which either BHO Sr. or FMD could have had the means, motive and opportunity to have been behind the transport of a pregnant Stanley Ann to Kenya.

These are investigative hypothetical narratives and have never been put forward by me as facts, assertions, conclusion, etc.

I have put forward these two possible dads and two possible narratives that could get Stanley Ann to Kenya to defeat claims by those FReepers, Obots, SPs and others who claim THERE IS NO WAY that Stanley Ann could have made it to Kenya to give birth to Barry.

The greatest threat to Barry’s eligibility is proof of a non-Hawaii birth and all of the Obot legal team behavior point to protection of evidence in the HI vital records that is consistent with a foreign birth, most likely in Kenya.

Obots, of course, are KEENLY interested in using Alinski-style mockery and deception to defeat any credible narrative that would allow for Stanley Ann to have gone to Kenya. And some Obot trolls appear to want to even defeat the obvious conclusive evidence that Stanley Ann Dunham is even Barry’s mom!


11,692 posted on 04/20/2013 8:08:33 AM PDT by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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To: Seizethecarp; Fred Nerks; WildHighlander57; GregNH; LucyT; Cold Case Posse Supporter
I have never declared, claimed, asserted or concluded that FM Davis was Barry’s dad.

I HAVE put forward two scenarios under which either BHO Sr. or FMD could have had the means, motive and opportunity to have been behind the transport of a pregnant Stanley Ann to Kenya.


Yes, you certainly have!

Obots, of course, are KEENLY interested in using Alinski-style mockery and deception to defeat any credible narrative that would allow for Stanley Ann to have...

Are you describing your Mal/Val tactics?

Both Brown Deer and Fred Nerks are resorting to intentional deception by twisting my use of the conditional IF sentence structure.

Really? It was a direct quote from you!
11,693 posted on 04/20/2013 8:46:20 AM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Brown Deer

Depends on who’s “IF” you’re talking about.....


11,694 posted on 04/20/2013 9:11:46 AM PDT by GregNH (If you can't fight, please find a good place to hide!)
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To: Brown Deer; Fred Nerks; WildHighlander57; Fantasywriter; LucyT

You are smart enough to understand conditional logic, therefore I conclude that it is likely that you are being deceptive and dishonest.

Here are the basics on conditional logic at this link;

http://philosophy.lander.edu/logic/conditional.html

Obots, trolls, SPs and Mal-Val pushers (who are cult believers that Malcolm X is Barry’s dad and Valerie Sarruf is his mom) ALL assert that there is NO chance that Stanley Ann could have gone to Kenya to deliver Barry or even have been Barry’s mom, in the case of the Mal-Val cult members.

Using logic and the known contemporaneous corroborated documented facts I have proposed two CONDITIONAL narratives that could provide the motivation for the funding needed to place Stanley Ann in Kenya.

These are POSSIBLE narratives that provide funding motivation NOT assertions that either narrative is a fact.

It is possible that FMD OR BHO Sr. could have been motivated (note the conditional phrasing) to hide the pregnancy of Stanley Ann for different reasons and to have arranged a sham marriage.

It is possible that FMD OR BHO Sr. could have personally or through backers obtained the funding needed to pay for Stanley Ann to travel to Kenya sometime between Feb 1961 and the delivery of baby Barry.

Conclusive i.e. verifiable evidence has not yet developed that would support conclusive assertion that either man is the dad or where Barry was born and I have repeatedly posted that.

I HAVE conclusively EXCLUDED the possibility that any other woman is Barry’s mom because only Conspiracy Theory (CT) could explain the numerous 1961 documents which back up that conclusion (UH, UW, INS FOIA, HI Newspaper, Polk).


11,695 posted on 04/20/2013 9:19:53 AM PDT by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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To: Seizethecarp

You are being deceptive and dishonest!


11,696 posted on 04/20/2013 10:18:16 AM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Fred Nerks

“Neither Kiri Tith nor any of the people who offered copies of their letters to a segment headed REMINISCENSES on the CAMBODIANA website remembered any woman associated with the kenyan student.”

Did you even read what Carp posted? The above is exactly the point. Tith remembers both Obama Sr. & Ann Dunham specifically; he just doesn’t remember there being any connection between the two. In the future, why not actually read what is posted , so you don’t end up restating the point while imagining you’re not?


11,697 posted on 04/20/2013 10:32:05 AM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: Seizethecarp
"If Obama’s actual father is Frank Marshall Davis, and it can be proved to save Obama’s presidency, Obama is NBC regardless of what Stanley Ann put on the BC, or where Obama was born." ~~ posted on 09/26/2009 11:38:03 AM PDT by Seizethecarp

Um...I am the retired CFA and CPA, not Dr. Polland...and also full of crap.
11,698 posted on 04/20/2013 10:37:55 AM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Fred Nerks

Maybe you should report the stalker.


11,699 posted on 04/20/2013 10:38:55 AM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Fred Nerks

Are you suggesting that if veteran journalist Maraniss wanted to interview Tith about Stanley Ann Dunham, he wd ask about ‘Ann’ instead? Do you serioesly believe that? Why wd Maraniss have considered that a better journalistic approach than asking about SADO by her real name? Did he think there was only one ‘Ann’ in the UoHI at the time? How wd he have made such a leap of logic? It’s a fairly common name, after all.

Do you understand how research even works? Here’s a clue. If a researcher is trying to dig up info on a specific person, they ask about that person using their first & last names. That’s the only way to be sure both parties are talking about the same individual (DUH!!!!!).

& anyway, Cashill clarifies the point in the link Carp provided:

“Although Maraniss talked to many of Obama Sr.’s friends, none of the credible ones ever so much as saw him with Obama’s mother, Ann Dunham.
[Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2012/06/biographer-admits-there-was-no-obama-family/#ScKBlxYV1grQHwoQ.99]

Get it? Maraniss asked about ‘Obama’s mother, Ann Dunham’.

Iow, as a journalist, he’s not a total & complete moron.


11,700 posted on 04/20/2013 10:40:42 AM PDT by Fantasywriter
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