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Is this really it? (re: possible Obama's Kenyan B.C. - Attny Taitz) Click on the link
orlytaitzesq.com ^ | 8/2/2009 | rxsid

Posted on 08/02/2009 1:35:53 AM PDT by rxsid

Edited on 08/06/2009 12:10:02 AM PDT by John Robinson. [history]

Attorney Taitz filed a NOTICE OF MOTION AND MOTION to Expedite authentication, MOTION for Issuance of Letters Rogatory for authenticity of Kenyan birth certificate filed by Plaintiff Alan Keyes PhD.

Barry's Kenyan B.C.??

Special Motion for leave

http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/blog1/ (site has been the target of hackers, proceed with caution — John)


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To: Fred Nerks

Pictures of Ann Dunham were all over the media at the time Kith made the quoted comments above, so it is certain that he would have noticed if the Ann who the media portrayed as POTUS Barry’s mom was NOT the same Ann he knew at UH.

Kiri Tith also did NOT associate BHO Sr. with any other Ann, Anne, or Anna as a wife or mother of a different son (the claimed Asian or Filipina Anna Obama who mysteriously went to Seattle in early 1961 with a secret baby of BHO Sr.


11,681 posted on 04/19/2013 10:13:24 PM PDT by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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To: Seizethecarp

He knew Ann. He’s shown sitting in the same room with ANNE. She was a student. Someone who thought they knew her (I didn’t bother to keep the story) said she was of Japanese ancestry.
ANN OR ANNE IS THE GIRL HE REMEMBERS.


11,682 posted on 04/19/2013 10:19:36 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Come Visit Tasmania!)
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To: Seizethecarp

Let’s go back a little in time now shall we...when you were utterly convinced that the father was Frank Marshall Davis, and the model who was posing naked for him in 1958 was Stanley Ann Dunham who was still in high school, and the KGB paid the expenses for her to deliver her child in Kenya, how much attention were you then prepared to lavish on investigations into how much attention the kenyan student was paying to a young lady whose name was shown as ANNE/USA at a social gathering at the Nachmanoff’s in 1961?

Not one second. You change your attacks according to what-ever conflicts with your latest theory.

And now you’ve read a book or two. Congratulations. Just don’t think you can get away with beating me over the head with quotes from them. I am not a groupie.


11,683 posted on 04/19/2013 10:41:07 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Come Visit Tasmania!)
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To: Fred Nerks; WildHighlander57; Fantasywriter

“Someone who thought they knew her (I didn’t bother to keep the story) said she was of Japanese ancestry.
ANN OR ANNE IS THE GIRL HE REMEMBERS.”

IIRC, Kith was the one who gave the last name for Anne as being a Japanese name.

Maraniss reports that Kith ALSO know Ann Dunham specifically AWAY from Sr. so as we have seen a picture of Sr. and Anne in the same room at the Nachmanoff party, Japanese Anne and Ann Dunham are not the same person in Kith’s mind.

All:

The Mal-Val grooming program includes dangling tasty tidbit insinuations that Asian Anne at the Nachmanoff party with Sr. is a possible secret wife of Sr. , the supposed “Anna Obama” in Seattle in early 1961 getting a different baby son from Sr. babysat by Mary Toutonghi.


11,684 posted on 04/19/2013 10:51:58 PM PDT by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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To: Fred Nerks

“Let’s go back a little in time now shall we...when you were utterly convinced that the father was Frank Marshall Davis, and the model who was posing naked for him in 1958 was Stanley Ann Dunham who was still in high school, and the KGB paid the expenses for her to deliver her child in Kenya...”

Link please.

(don’t bother...you won’t find one)

I have never once posted that I was ever “utterly convinced” or in any way certain of any of those things.

I have repeatedly corrected you on that, yet you persist on making deceitful statements about what I have posted. FReepers can draw their own conclusions about your chronic deceptive and abusive posting history.


11,685 posted on 04/19/2013 10:59:10 PM PDT by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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To: Seizethecarp
Maraniss reports that Kith ALSO know Ann Dunham specifically AWAY from Sr. so as we have seen a picture of Sr. and Anne in the same room at the Nachmanoff party, Japanese Anne and Ann Dunham are not the same person in Kith’s mind.

You know what's in Kith's mind and you take what Maraniss writes as being gospel, do you? ROFLMBO! Give me a break. Take your medication, have a good lie down, and when you feel better...stay away from me.

11,686 posted on 04/19/2013 11:05:26 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Come Visit Tasmania!)
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To: Seizethecarp

Bye bye. You need help, seriously.


11,687 posted on 04/19/2013 11:07:25 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Come Visit Tasmania!)
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To: Seizethecarp

11,688 posted on 04/19/2013 11:11:14 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Come Visit Tasmania!)
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11,689 posted on 04/19/2013 11:20:53 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Come Visit Tasmania!)
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To: Seizethecarp

Seizethecarp, many thanks for this latest info from Corsi. He is staying the course and sticking with what he has written regarding where Ann dunham Obama was in 1961.


11,690 posted on 04/20/2013 6:59:47 AM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: WildHighlander57; Seizethecarp; Fred Nerks; LucyT; GregNH; David
Seizethecarp, many thanks for this latest info from Corsi. He is staying the course and sticking with what he has written...

and btw, 0bama's father was NOT Frank Marshall Davis.

That's just another fantasy...

...but he is staying the course and sticking with what has has written! ;-)

Not so sure about seize and the flipflopping between his Mal/Val and FMD stories: "If Obama’s actual father is Frank Marshall Davis, and it can be proved to save Obama’s presidency, Obama is NBC regardless of what Stanley Ann put on the BC, or where Obama was born.
11,691 posted on 04/20/2013 7:47:47 AM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: All; Brown Deer; Fred Nerks; WildHighlander57; Fantasywriter; LucyT; Cold Case Posse Supporter

“Not so sure about seize and the flipflopping between his Mal/Val and FMD stories: “If Obama’s actual father is Frank Marshall Davis, and it can be proved to save Obama’s presidency, Obama is NBC regardless of what Stanley Ann put on the BC, or where Obama was born.”

All:

Both Brown Deer and Fred Nerks are resorting to intentional deception by twisting my use of the conditional IF sentence structure. This is dishonest and an attempt to mislead FReepers and smear me.

I have never declared, claimed, asserted or concluded that FM Davis was Barry’s dad. Being keen on forensics, what I assert is that only DNA studies could prove who the biological father is.

I HAVE put forward two scenarios under which either BHO Sr. or FMD could have had the means, motive and opportunity to have been behind the transport of a pregnant Stanley Ann to Kenya.

These are investigative hypothetical narratives and have never been put forward by me as facts, assertions, conclusion, etc.

I have put forward these two possible dads and two possible narratives that could get Stanley Ann to Kenya to defeat claims by those FReepers, Obots, SPs and others who claim THERE IS NO WAY that Stanley Ann could have made it to Kenya to give birth to Barry.

The greatest threat to Barry’s eligibility is proof of a non-Hawaii birth and all of the Obot legal team behavior point to protection of evidence in the HI vital records that is consistent with a foreign birth, most likely in Kenya.

Obots, of course, are KEENLY interested in using Alinski-style mockery and deception to defeat any credible narrative that would allow for Stanley Ann to have gone to Kenya. And some Obot trolls appear to want to even defeat the obvious conclusive evidence that Stanley Ann Dunham is even Barry’s mom!


11,692 posted on 04/20/2013 8:08:33 AM PDT by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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To: Seizethecarp; Fred Nerks; WildHighlander57; GregNH; LucyT; Cold Case Posse Supporter
I have never declared, claimed, asserted or concluded that FM Davis was Barry’s dad.

I HAVE put forward two scenarios under which either BHO Sr. or FMD could have had the means, motive and opportunity to have been behind the transport of a pregnant Stanley Ann to Kenya.


Yes, you certainly have!

Obots, of course, are KEENLY interested in using Alinski-style mockery and deception to defeat any credible narrative that would allow for Stanley Ann to have...

Are you describing your Mal/Val tactics?

Both Brown Deer and Fred Nerks are resorting to intentional deception by twisting my use of the conditional IF sentence structure.

Really? It was a direct quote from you!
11,693 posted on 04/20/2013 8:46:20 AM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Brown Deer

Depends on who’s “IF” you’re talking about.....


11,694 posted on 04/20/2013 9:11:46 AM PDT by GregNH (If you can't fight, please find a good place to hide!)
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To: Brown Deer; Fred Nerks; WildHighlander57; Fantasywriter; LucyT

You are smart enough to understand conditional logic, therefore I conclude that it is likely that you are being deceptive and dishonest.

Here are the basics on conditional logic at this link;

http://philosophy.lander.edu/logic/conditional.html

Obots, trolls, SPs and Mal-Val pushers (who are cult believers that Malcolm X is Barry’s dad and Valerie Sarruf is his mom) ALL assert that there is NO chance that Stanley Ann could have gone to Kenya to deliver Barry or even have been Barry’s mom, in the case of the Mal-Val cult members.

Using logic and the known contemporaneous corroborated documented facts I have proposed two CONDITIONAL narratives that could provide the motivation for the funding needed to place Stanley Ann in Kenya.

These are POSSIBLE narratives that provide funding motivation NOT assertions that either narrative is a fact.

It is possible that FMD OR BHO Sr. could have been motivated (note the conditional phrasing) to hide the pregnancy of Stanley Ann for different reasons and to have arranged a sham marriage.

It is possible that FMD OR BHO Sr. could have personally or through backers obtained the funding needed to pay for Stanley Ann to travel to Kenya sometime between Feb 1961 and the delivery of baby Barry.

Conclusive i.e. verifiable evidence has not yet developed that would support conclusive assertion that either man is the dad or where Barry was born and I have repeatedly posted that.

I HAVE conclusively EXCLUDED the possibility that any other woman is Barry’s mom because only Conspiracy Theory (CT) could explain the numerous 1961 documents which back up that conclusion (UH, UW, INS FOIA, HI Newspaper, Polk).


11,695 posted on 04/20/2013 9:19:53 AM PDT by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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To: Seizethecarp

You are being deceptive and dishonest!


11,696 posted on 04/20/2013 10:18:16 AM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Fred Nerks

“Neither Kiri Tith nor any of the people who offered copies of their letters to a segment headed REMINISCENSES on the CAMBODIANA website remembered any woman associated with the kenyan student.”

Did you even read what Carp posted? The above is exactly the point. Tith remembers both Obama Sr. & Ann Dunham specifically; he just doesn’t remember there being any connection between the two. In the future, why not actually read what is posted , so you don’t end up restating the point while imagining you’re not?


11,697 posted on 04/20/2013 10:32:05 AM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: Seizethecarp
"If Obama’s actual father is Frank Marshall Davis, and it can be proved to save Obama’s presidency, Obama is NBC regardless of what Stanley Ann put on the BC, or where Obama was born." ~~ posted on 09/26/2009 11:38:03 AM PDT by Seizethecarp

Um...I am the retired CFA and CPA, not Dr. Polland...and also full of crap.
11,698 posted on 04/20/2013 10:37:55 AM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Fred Nerks

Maybe you should report the stalker.


11,699 posted on 04/20/2013 10:38:55 AM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Fred Nerks

Are you suggesting that if veteran journalist Maraniss wanted to interview Tith about Stanley Ann Dunham, he wd ask about ‘Ann’ instead? Do you serioesly believe that? Why wd Maraniss have considered that a better journalistic approach than asking about SADO by her real name? Did he think there was only one ‘Ann’ in the UoHI at the time? How wd he have made such a leap of logic? It’s a fairly common name, after all.

Do you understand how research even works? Here’s a clue. If a researcher is trying to dig up info on a specific person, they ask about that person using their first & last names. That’s the only way to be sure both parties are talking about the same individual (DUH!!!!!).

& anyway, Cashill clarifies the point in the link Carp provided:

“Although Maraniss talked to many of Obama Sr.’s friends, none of the credible ones ever so much as saw him with Obama’s mother, Ann Dunham.
[Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2012/06/biographer-admits-there-was-no-obama-family/#ScKBlxYV1grQHwoQ.99]

Get it? Maraniss asked about ‘Obama’s mother, Ann Dunham’.

Iow, as a journalist, he’s not a total & complete moron.


11,700 posted on 04/20/2013 10:40:42 AM PDT by Fantasywriter
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