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Is this really it? (re: possible Obama's Kenyan B.C. - Attny Taitz) Click on the link
orlytaitzesq.com ^ | 8/2/2009 | rxsid

Posted on 08/02/2009 1:35:53 AM PDT by rxsid

Edited on 08/06/2009 12:10:02 AM PDT by John Robinson. [history]

Attorney Taitz filed a NOTICE OF MOTION AND MOTION to Expedite authentication, MOTION for Issuance of Letters Rogatory for authenticity of Kenyan birth certificate filed by Plaintiff Alan Keyes PhD.

Barry's Kenyan B.C.??

Special Motion for leave

http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/blog1/ (site has been the target of hackers, proceed with caution — John)


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To: Fred Nerks

Sr.’s first name is spelled with a “C” in that clipping.


9,251 posted on 08/14/2009 2:59:31 PM PDT by Jedidah ("Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." George Santayana)
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To: Fred Nerks

Just looked into the origin of the language


...snip...
Arguably, the largest legacy of the Dutch language lies in South Africa, which attracted large numbers of Dutch, Flemish and other northwest European farmer (in Dutch, boer) settlers, all of whom were quickly assimilated.[57] After the colony passed into British hands in the early 19th century, the settlers spread into the hinterland, taking their language with them.

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It is estimated that over 90% of Afrikaans vocabulary is ultimately of Dutch origin.[60][61] Both languages are still largely mutually intelligible, although this relation can in some fields (such as lexicon, spelling and grammar) be asymmetric, as it is easier for Dutch-speakers to understand Afrikaans than it is for Afrikaans-speakers to understand Dutch.[62]

It is the third language of South Africa in terms of native speakers (~13.3%),[63] of whom 53 percent Coloureds and 42.4 percent Whites.[64] In 1996, 40 percent of South


ALSO one word can have multiple meanings (whichis also true for most African languages) See below:

Dutch is a stress language; the stress position of words matters. Stress can occur on any syllable position in a word. There is a tendency for stress to be at the beginning of words. In composite words, secondary stress is often present. There are some cases where stress is the only difference between words. For example vóórkomen (occur) and voorkómen (prevent). Marking the stress (´) in written Dutch is optional, never obligatory, but sometimes recommended.


9,252 posted on 08/14/2009 3:07:08 PM PDT by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: Fred Nerks

Just looked into the origin of the language


...snip...
Arguably, the largest legacy of the Dutch language lies in South Africa, which attracted large numbers of Dutch, Flemish and other northwest European farmer (in Dutch, boer) settlers, all of whom were quickly assimilated.[57] After the colony passed into British hands in the early 19th century, the settlers spread into the hinterland, taking their language with them.

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It is estimated that over 90% of Afrikaans vocabulary is ultimately of Dutch origin.[60][61] Both languages are still largely mutually intelligible, although this relation can in some fields (such as lexicon, spelling and grammar) be asymmetric, as it is easier for Dutch-speakers to understand Afrikaans than it is for Afrikaans-speakers to understand Dutch.[62]

It is the third language of South Africa in terms of native speakers (~13.3%),[63] of whom 53 percent Coloureds and 42.4 percent Whites.[64] In 1996, 40 percent of South


ALSO one word can have multiple meanings (whichis also true for most African languages) See below:

Dutch is a stress language; the stress position of words matters. Stress can occur on any syllable position in a word. There is a tendency for stress to be at the beginning of words. In composite words, secondary stress is often present. There are some cases where stress is the only difference between words. For example vóórkomen (occur) and voorkómen (prevent). Marking the stress (´) in written Dutch is optional, never obligatory, but sometimes recommended.


9,253 posted on 08/14/2009 3:07:14 PM PDT by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: BP2; Fred Nerks; David; All

African - a native or inhabitant of Africa

Afrikander, Afrikaner, Boer - a white native of Cape Province who is a descendant of Dutch settlers and who speaks Afrikaans

From:
http://cc.bingj.com/cache.aspx?q=dutch+african&d=76521979268441&mkt=en-US&setlang=en-US&w=a36d9198,2cb96b23


9,254 posted on 08/14/2009 3:09:20 PM PDT by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: Jedidah
Sr.’s first name is spelled with a “C” in that clipping.

Only the teacher in Kenya would know...for sure:

...Obama Sr — Index No 3422 — joined the school with his elder brother, Joseph...

SOURCE

9,255 posted on 08/14/2009 3:26:54 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (DON'T LIE TO ME!)
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To: Jedidah; mojitojoe

Thinking about it...as a boy he went to a Christian school. His name may have been Barack with a ‘c’ because that’s the english way to write the name. I’m thinking he may have dropped the ‘c’ when he returned to Kenya...he was going to be a big man in a newly independant Kenya, and anything that was British was despised...


9,256 posted on 08/14/2009 3:33:33 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (DON'T LIE TO ME!)
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To: hoosiermama

I am having difficulty understanding why Hawaii would consult with Dutch/Kenyan officials at all if the state has a law where a relative could go into the Vital Statistic’s Offfice and all they had to do was fill out a form, represent they were a resident of Hawaii, and request that their child be issued a COLB. The application would likely be sworn to and the information on the application would serve as the source document for generating the Certification of Live Birth that Obama has been presenting.


9,257 posted on 08/14/2009 3:36:59 PM PDT by iontheball
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To: hoosiermama

As I said elsewhere, I think ‘registered’ could be used as a distinction in the office to signify that the office registrar ‘registered’ the birth based on information from the hospital versus a relative filling out and ‘filing’ an application for a COLB in the Vital Statistics Office.


9,258 posted on 08/14/2009 3:46:32 PM PDT by iontheball
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To: mojitojoe

NO


9,259 posted on 08/14/2009 4:11:33 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: iontheball

I haven’t read through all the comments on this thread, but I still see people discussing why AFRICAN was listed under RACE.

Has anyone considered that a birth certificate needs to contain adequate information to determine whether one is a natural born citizen? The birth certificate is the single document that documents the scenario of anyone’s birth. Had they entered NEGRO into the RACE slot, the true circumstances of BO’s birth would not have been documented.

Somewhere online during this whole saga, I saw a BC from someone who had born to a US citizen mother and an Asian father. The RACE slot for the father said either JAPANESE or JAPAN.

Folks in the 60’s were much smarter regarding our Constitution, it was much more than just a piece of paper back then.

I wish someone could get into the archived SOPs for Hawaii’s Health Department to see what guidelines they were given back then for entering information in the BCs. I’d bet this could be some good research.


9,260 posted on 08/14/2009 4:19:55 PM PDT by Beach555
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To: iontheball

We don’t know for a fact. that the HI was registered by a family member.
Think outside the box
This is a possibility:
She gave birth in Kenya in Mombassa Coastal Hospital as the GLOBE even once reported.
The hospital in Mombasa, because SADO was an American citizen, reports the birth to the US Embassy. Maybe even called. Also remember Wires were used instead of fax back then.

The embassy would then wire HI that a birth had taken place and forward the information. I don’t believe there is a space for race on the Kenya BC that Orley posted, so the clerk working in the office of either the hospital or the embassy,when asked for race replied “African”.
for his father’s race because in the Dutch term in infers anyone born in Africa.

Mombassa in the research we did on Kenya was first Portegese, then Dutch, then English.... Portugese mostly just traded, but the Dutch Spice traders had a huge impact on the formation of a government,

They may have had an influence on the use of AFRIKAN for black and Afrikander for a white native of Africa, that seems used the int Afrikaneer language used in South Africa. Terms have a way of continuing long past their original use.

The hospital may have even explained to SADO that it would be “registered” in HI through the embassy.

IMO Sado was fleeing form Sr, and in fact was in hiding in WA. I see no reason for a woman within 72 hours of giving birth taking flight to AM unless she was in fear. Fear for her life, for her baby or that her baby would be taken from her. 72 hours before birth, the baby is in the birth canal. Sitting, traveling is difficult. Dr. tell you not to travel for a reason...It triggers labor.

She didn’t go back to Hawii. Her parents knew where she was, but he didn’t....She didn’t return until he was gone. Nor did she file for divorce which would have tip him off to her location, until she returned to HI....Even them she may have purposely sent the announcement for divorce to an address that she knew he would not be at.


9,261 posted on 08/14/2009 4:33:23 PM PDT by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: Beach555

Race does not equate to nationality. If they wanted one or both they could have made provision for it on the form but African is not a race and should not have appeared in that block on the form. If individual who was involved in filing out the application used the term African to signify his race, the clerk may have just transfered the information from the application to the COLB.


9,262 posted on 08/14/2009 4:39:51 PM PDT by iontheball (ter)
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To: hoosiermama

The problem with the scenario of the Embassy registering the birth with Hawaiian officials is that, if the newspapers got the info for the announcement from the registration, it would not have the suspicious Obama address in Honolulu. No way would a U.S. Embassy have had that info.


9,263 posted on 08/14/2009 4:42:05 PM PDT by Jedidah ("Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." George Santayana)
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To: iontheball

Or information from an Embassy instead of from a local hospital.


9,264 posted on 08/14/2009 4:42:47 PM PDT by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: hoosiermama

Is the term ‘registered’ associated with the alleged Hawaiian/Obama certificate or is it ‘filed’? I thought it was ‘filed’.


9,265 posted on 08/14/2009 4:47:50 PM PDT by iontheball (ter)
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To: Jedidah

They may have had that address if SADO gave them that address in order for them to send BC to said address....She and Sr didn’t have an address if they had been in Kenya since their marriage. ANd she may not have had contact with her parents for a while to want them to have the information.
She could then just go into the office and get a duplicate or request one from Kenya.

Remember she was a practiced liar.....Returned mail at the post office may have an envelop addressed to her....Wonder how long they keep them before they are destroyed?


9,266 posted on 08/14/2009 4:48:30 PM PDT by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: iontheball

register or filed...Whichever it’s the opposite of normal...from the local hospitol.


9,267 posted on 08/14/2009 4:52:40 PM PDT by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: hoosiermama

Absolutely, it could have been from Mombassa hospital or another official source. But my point is that the term ‘registered’ would referred to an action taken by the registrar based on an official source record of live birth being forwarded to the Vital Statistics Office from an outside source rather that a ‘filing’ by an applicant who filled out a form in the Office.


9,268 posted on 08/14/2009 4:53:34 PM PDT by iontheball (ter)
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To: iontheball

Yes.

The mystery I’m trying to solve is the use of AFRICAN....Where did it come from and why....Was it an Embassy thing? Those of you born outside the country, when one parent is an AM citizen and the other is not. What does yours show?


9,269 posted on 08/14/2009 4:57:29 PM PDT by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: iontheball

Yes, race doesn’t equal nationality, I’ve got that and you state the obvious. But there isn’t a block for nationality, at least as far as I’ve seen from the long forms. Perhaps Hawaii’s standard operating procedures were to combine the two. Enter RACE into the block if you’re a citizen, enter nationality if you’re not.

Does anybody have access to 60’s versions of operating procedures for Hawaii’s Health Department?


9,270 posted on 08/14/2009 5:22:45 PM PDT by Beach555
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To: hoosiermama

What are those old LP records? Who’s on the front?


9,271 posted on 08/14/2009 5:25:09 PM PDT by mojitojoe (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for the people to remain silent.)
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To: iontheball

Did Sr. sign the divorce papers? How did he sign it?


9,272 posted on 08/14/2009 5:30:51 PM PDT by mojitojoe (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for the people to remain silent.)
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To: hoosiermama; Fred Nerks; BP2; MHGinTN; Tennessee Nana; David
I was reading Frank Marshall Davis' FBI file Link and came up with some interesting information. First of all he fathered a set of twin daughters. Don't have the date because it was redacted. Secondly, he and his wife Helen Canfield, were having a great deal of marital trouble in 1957 between May and November and actually separated and she was openly seeeing a musician at that time. He told friends that he was going to divorce her, and he stopped writing his regular column for the Longshoremen's Union during that period.

Eventually they reconciled, but they eventually did divorce in 1970. During the period when they were separated, Davis expressed an interest in purchasing the newspaper where he was writing his column.

Coincidental that the divorced the same year Obama Jr. returned to HI?

Possible that the Davises used sex games (threesomes, seduction, nude photography, etc.) to enhance their failing relationship in 1960?

9,273 posted on 08/14/2009 5:31:53 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Beach555

I completely understand your point, but this COLB was typed out supposedly in 2007. So put yourself in a clerks position, assuming that the COLB is real, it is not. The clerk looks at the race of the father on the original and it says maybe something like “Negro”. She decides to use the modern day term of African.


9,274 posted on 08/14/2009 5:32:48 PM PDT by GregNH
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To: Jedidah; All

The birth announcements appear to be non existent as well.

This is a summation of known facts and the conclusion can only be what he has stated.

http://jbjd.wordpress.com/2009/08/09/rumors-lies-and-unsubstantiated-facts/


9,275 posted on 08/14/2009 5:37:19 PM PDT by GregNH
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To: mojitojoe; David; BP2
No they divorce papers were sent to an address in Mass., and he didn't respond. It was either David or BP that noted that may have triggered a request for BO ‘s BC. So that she could show that they had been abandoned, Sr was in fact the father and they were eligible for aid.
9,276 posted on 08/14/2009 5:39:53 PM PDT by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: Beach555

The link to the state’s US statistic posted on this thread a couple of days ago showed only two categories....White and non-white.

Don’t know if the state statistic’s for 61 was more complete or not.


9,277 posted on 08/14/2009 5:43:25 PM PDT by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: Beach555

On one of the threds in the last week or so - someone investigated and posted a list of words used in the “race” box in HI in the early 60s. “Negro” was on the list, “African” was not.

I wish I knew who posted it.


9,278 posted on 08/14/2009 5:43:33 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: GregNH

NO. That is not true. The COLB is only a print-out of abbreviated facts on the long form. The clerk who printed this out in 2007 had ZERO decision making about what was on it. You are so wrong here.


9,279 posted on 08/14/2009 5:44:07 PM PDT by Beach555
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To: Fred Nerks

That makes no sense to me. There is an English way to spell Barak? He didn’t change Hussein. That newspaper clipping was 1962. After the fraud. Is there anything other than things found on the web and probably planted there for our enjoyment, that has his name on it?
If it’s on the internet, after well over a year, you can bet that they want us to find it. It’s all of the scrubbed links they didn’t want us to find that were relevant.


9,280 posted on 08/14/2009 5:46:30 PM PDT by mojitojoe (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for the people to remain silent.)
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To: Beach555
I’d bet this could be some good research

Research may be best done in how the State Department handles notification to the states that a citizen delivering a child in a country other than that state notifies the state. What forms and terms are used?

That is your assignment if you wish to accept it.....cue music!

BTW you are allowed to "Ask a fifth grader" "call a friend" or organize a team to reseach topic.

9,281 posted on 08/14/2009 5:51:05 PM PDT by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: hoosiermama

If Sr. didn’t himself, sign the divorce papers, there isn’t a shred of solid evidence he was the father or even knew that she said he was the father. ALL of the rest is hearsay. What solid facts do we have? I don’t see why this case has to be built on all circumstantial evidence. Where is the real evidence on any of this. Disregard what anyone said after this became and *issue*.


9,282 posted on 08/14/2009 5:53:21 PM PDT by mojitojoe (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for the people to remain silent.)
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To: Beach555

Wow, I am so sorry i even responded. The COLB is a forgery so it matters not what is on it. Moot.


9,283 posted on 08/14/2009 5:55:03 PM PDT by GregNH
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To: mojitojoe; BP2

ask BP2...IIRC the divorce papers were returned unsigned.


9,284 posted on 08/14/2009 5:58:44 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (DON'T LIE TO ME!)
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To: Jedidah

Way too much credibility is given to that announcement. Has anyone ever found an actual old Hawaiian paper showing the announcement? No, I didn’t think so. Microfiche could be changed. This is the main talking point that all moonbats use to justify their case that he was born in Hawaii.
The bigger question is why wasn’t the announcement for the Klondyke twins, who were born on the same day, in the paper? Could it be one was removed and the other replaced?
Now wouldn’t it be very interesting is someone had managed to obtain a Hawaiian newspaper from that date and Obama’s was missing and the Klondyke’s was there, proving the microfiche was deliberately faked. ;)


9,285 posted on 08/14/2009 6:03:22 PM PDT by mojitojoe (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for the people to remain silent.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

No coincidence. He is the father.


9,286 posted on 08/14/2009 6:05:49 PM PDT by mojitojoe (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for the people to remain silent.)
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To: David

Based on his submission of this footnote to the federal court in January, I am surmising that the strongest evidence BO could have provided to NP to verify his Constitutional status before she Certified his eligibility for POTUS on August 27; was this same APFC characterization of authenticity. BUT THE STRONGEST EVIDENCE HE HAD TO PROVE TO THE COURT HE WAS A NBC; WAS THAT CERTIFICATION OF NOMINATION NP SIGNED AND FORWARDED TO STATE ELECTIONS OFFICIALS SO THAT HIS NAME COULD BE PRINTED ON THE STATE GENERAL ELECTION BALLOTS! This begs the question: why did lawyers from PERKINS COIE ask the court to take judicial notice their client was for real by referencing a web site run by the organization APFC, given that they could have cited his authentication as a natural born citizen in any one of the 50 Official DNC Certifications of Nomination sworn to by the Speaker of the U.S. House of Representatives?

http://jbjd.wordpress.com/2009/08/09/rumors-lies-and-unsubstantiated-facts/


9,287 posted on 08/14/2009 6:19:06 PM PDT by mojitojoe (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for the people to remain silent.)
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To: hoosiermama

Way back it was postulated by someone that ‘African’ on the alleged COLB was put on by the document forger who could not bring himself to use the term negro. There is also an earlier post today of a Hawaiian document wherein it listed the recognized terms in use by Hawaii at the time to define race. Obviously, African was not on the list.

Since we are on the alleged COLB, an earlier post today indicated that “Barack” is a unique spelling of the common name Barak. We know his supposed daddy Barak Obama did not use Barack. My understanding is that it is a creation of Obama which means he likely did not adopt its use until sometime in his college days. We know he went by Barry Sorotoro for a number of years. This would cause any earlier appearances of ‘Barack’ on a document to raise suspicion as to it being an ‘after the fact’ creation, i.e., alleged COLB, newspaper announcements, etc. Obama would have us believe that both he and his alleged daddy used the spelling Barack, but there is no indication that his daddy every used that variation of common spelling ‘Barak’.


9,288 posted on 08/14/2009 6:19:28 PM PDT by iontheball
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To: hoosiermama

Was the address in Mass. one that Sr. even ever lived at? Or a bogus one with the intention he would never receive them?


9,289 posted on 08/14/2009 6:21:27 PM PDT by mojitojoe (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for the people to remain silent.)
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To: mojitojoe; Jedidah

See this? Imagine: FMD wrote for a Hawaiian left-wing paper. He had Union associates. Both the newapers that showed the 'birth announcements' were printed in the same print-shop. FMD goes to the print-shop, asks a printer-union-buddy to include the obama announcement. Printer-buddy says, 'no, I can't, the announcements are already set to be printed...'

FMD says, 'not to worry, just cut this one for the Nordyke's out, and replace it with this one'.

The Nordykes don't complain, because they belonged to the same cabal...Eleanor can show us the birth certificates for the twins, but she can't show us the birth announcement, because she knows it was never there.

9,290 posted on 08/14/2009 6:22:23 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (DON'T LIE TO ME!)
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To: hoosiermama

My Certified Copy of Birth Record for Missouri from the 40’s has a space in the father’s section for Color or race and for Birthplace that is to include the city, town or county and then State or foreign country. My father was Canadian so it is filled out with the name of the province and then Canada. He is also listed as white.

My Birth Certification which like the Hawaiian COLB that I just recently got from Missouri because I was applying for an American passport does not have a space for race or color. It does have a spot where it says Father’s State at Birth and it just fills it in with Canada. My mother was an American.


9,291 posted on 08/14/2009 6:24:35 PM PDT by Albertafriend
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To: Fred Nerks

Possibly, but much more likely is that is was a covert operation done by the obama team last year. An actual Hawaii newspaper from that day, showing the Klondyke announcement, and not the Obama announcement would blow it all wide open. ;)
Of course, the only one that would be blamed for doing would be factcheck since they posted it. Odumbass has never stated it was real, nor has he ever posted it on his website so he would say he has nothing to do with it.


9,292 posted on 08/14/2009 6:28:33 PM PDT by mojitojoe (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for the people to remain silent.)
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To: little jeremiah

That is true. It was not me but I have checked it personally. The term in use in Hawaii was Negro. My question for research today was is “african” used as a term to designate a person of color in another culture of the world....That led me to South Africa/Dutch connection.

(I had done research on Kenya a few days back....Kenya has a big connection to the Dutch.....
Part of the historic Spice Route, claim to fame is “Clove”...and parts of the country smells of the fragrance of clove during seasons of the year.) Wonderful museums with great photo’s on line.


9,293 posted on 08/14/2009 6:29:05 PM PDT by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: Fred Nerks

Funny how his slutty no good mama saved lots of other things, at least according to Jr. in his books, but she didn’t save his birth announcements? This entire things is such BS it’s laughable. The newspaper will prove it was switched but it will never prove who did it.


9,294 posted on 08/14/2009 6:31:07 PM PDT by mojitojoe (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for the people to remain silent.)
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To: mojitojoe
That makes no sense to me. There is an English way to spell Barak?

Yes. See: BACK HACK SACK RACK SMACK RACK BLACK CRACK FLACK STACK. It's instinctive for an english speaking person to add a 'c' - his name would have been written phonetically when he entered school. I'm guessing he dropped the english spelling on his return to Kenya.

9,295 posted on 08/14/2009 6:32:08 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (DON'T LIE TO ME!)
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To: iontheball

That’s been hashed out time and again on the “long” thread...I’m trying to think out of the box with something new....


9,296 posted on 08/14/2009 6:33:36 PM PDT by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: Fred Nerks

Still not buying it unless I see that he signed his name that way or that is the way it is spelled in his records at UofH which I am sure it is by now. I want to see one thing that he signed and spelled it Barack. The examples you gave are words. Not names. I doubt he came here from Africa and said” My name is Barak Obama but since I’m in the US I will now be BaraCk Obama”.


9,297 posted on 08/14/2009 6:38:30 PM PDT by mojitojoe (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for the people to remain silent.)
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To: mojitojoe; Jedidah
The newspaper will prove it was switched but it will never prove who did it.

No, it won't prove anything of the kind if the switch was made in between the time that the papers were laid out ready to be printed, and the time they actually went to print.

9,298 posted on 08/14/2009 6:38:37 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (DON'T LIE TO ME!)
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To: hoosiermama

The birth announcement. Not on microfiche.... a real honest to goodness newspaper from that date, showing the Klondyke announcement and no Obama announcement.


9,299 posted on 08/14/2009 6:40:50 PM PDT by mojitojoe (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for the people to remain silent.)
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To: Fred Nerks

what????? Where did factcheck get that announcement? From microfiche? Or did they make it up? If a real hard copy of the paper shows Klondyke, that’s it. No way would FMD have has any reason to remove Obama and enter Klondyke.


9,300 posted on 08/14/2009 6:44:17 PM PDT by mojitojoe (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for the people to remain silent.)
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