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Is this really it? (re: possible Obama's Kenyan B.C. - Attny Taitz) Click on the link
orlytaitzesq.com ^ | 8/2/2009 | rxsid

Posted on 08/02/2009 1:35:53 AM PDT by rxsid

Edited on 08/06/2009 12:10:02 AM PDT by John Robinson. [history]

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To: PowerPro

Agree, but the good thing is that it contains so much data (registrars names, serial numbers etc) that it should be quite easy to check with the help of the local authorities.


101 posted on 08/02/2009 2:26:38 AM PDT by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: STARWISE
Nice!

Real or not, it will keep the Natural Born debate alive.

5:24am and I'm wide awake with a grin on my face.
102 posted on 08/02/2009 2:26:59 AM PDT by voveo
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To: woofie
It's Fiztmas Birthmas has come early!
103 posted on 08/02/2009 2:27:06 AM PDT by Red Steel
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To: TChad

I think that’s why this legal brief has been filed .. and on a Saturday, too.


104 posted on 08/02/2009 2:27:06 AM PDT by STARWISE (The Art & Science Institute of Chicago Politics NE Div: now open at the White House)
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To: STARWISE
Total hoax>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Well please enlighten us on Know it all, how do you arrive at that conclusion?

I'm not convinced it's real, but you certainly don't have any basis to announce such a conclusion.

105 posted on 08/02/2009 2:27:06 AM PDT by politicalmerc
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To: STARWISE

Maybe so ...maybe this has nothing to do with him


106 posted on 08/02/2009 2:27:22 AM PDT by woofie
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To: PowerPro

I agree, be very cautiously optimistic


107 posted on 08/02/2009 2:28:48 AM PDT by mel
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To: perchprism

No, Taitz asks the court to help verifyig this document - and she only has a colour copy.


108 posted on 08/02/2009 2:28:50 AM PDT by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: PowerPro

Could well be ... we shall see. If the
judge is as allegedly described, let’s
pray he’s got got guts to find out and
verify it.


109 posted on 08/02/2009 2:29:00 AM PDT by STARWISE (The Art & Science Institute of Chicago Politics NE Div: now open at the White House)
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To: perchprism

A couple of days ago someone fabricated a fake Kenyan BC, I cannot get an updated flash player because of this stupid vista puter to download, I guess I’ll have to swap plugs and get on the old reliable XP. The last couple of weeks I have had to alternate between puters cause their have been a lot of crap screwing up my ISP, it may just be me under attack recently but I have heard others have had the same issue.

Orly has been duped by people she thought were supporting her, I hope this is not another case.


110 posted on 08/02/2009 2:29:52 AM PDT by Eye of Unk ("If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." T. Paine)
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To: perchprism
This is a COPY of the original.

It has what looks like a raised seal. I'm not so sure it's a copy, at least in the modern sense. Might be an old fashioned copy, in which a clerk retyped what he saw on another document.

111 posted on 08/02/2009 2:30:03 AM PDT by TChad
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To: Red Steel
Birthmas has come early!

Can we all celebrate and go to the WH for a beer?
112 posted on 08/02/2009 2:30:05 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: Red Steel

I gotta go check out DU


113 posted on 08/02/2009 2:30:15 AM PDT by woofie
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To: Windflier

I’ll bet dollars to donuts that Book 44B is already missing from the Coast Province Registrars Office.

***I tried to get Intrade to post a contract so we could trade on something associated with this scandal. No dice. Intrade said, “We feel that such a market will not add value to the exchange. “

http://bb.intrade.com/intradeForum/posts/list/2279.page


114 posted on 08/02/2009 2:30:47 AM PDT by Kevmo (So America gets what America deserves - the destruction of its Constitution. ~Leo Donofrio, 6/1/09)
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To: voveo

Talk about adrenalin .. and I was just
getting ready to get flat. I’m gonna
have to go to the afternoon Mass .. ;)


115 posted on 08/02/2009 2:31:05 AM PDT by STARWISE (The Art & Science Institute of Chicago Politics NE Div: now open at the White House)
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To: politicalmerc

Because he wasn’t born here.

He was born in Coast General Hospital in Mombasa, Kenya on Aug 4th, 1961


116 posted on 08/02/2009 2:31:20 AM PDT by djf (The "racism" spiel is a crutch, those who unashamedly lean on it, cripples!)
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To: STARWISE

I think maybe the CIA is pissed


117 posted on 08/02/2009 2:32:00 AM PDT by woofie
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To: woofie

I gotta go check out DU....

Report back, please. Won’t go there, myself. Cooties.


118 posted on 08/02/2009 2:32:50 AM PDT by perchprism
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To: politicalmerc

I was talking about the eBay auction .. the
guy who said he had information about the
birth cert.

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=104495


119 posted on 08/02/2009 2:32:50 AM PDT by STARWISE (The Art & Science Institute of Chicago Politics NE Div: now open at the White House)
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To: Red Steel

BIRTHMAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!


120 posted on 08/02/2009 2:33:42 AM PDT by Danae (I AM JIM THOMPSON - Conservative does not equal Republican. Conservative does not compromise.)
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To: boxerblues
Looks to be more real than what Zero put online

******

Let's see what happens when document experts----pro-Obama experts, neutral experts, and anti-Obama experts---apply their technical skills to this document the way they applied their skills to the Obama Hawaii short form birth certificate that Obama displayed on his website.

The results should be most interesting.

If it turns out that the document is a fake, it looks like a pretty good fake to me.

The next few weeks could be most interesting as more and more people examine this Kenyan birth certificate.

In addition, this document could force Obama to release his Hawaii long form birth certificate and his Occidental, Columbia, and Harvard records and his Hawaii high school records.

121 posted on 08/02/2009 2:33:48 AM PDT by john mirse
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To: STARWISE
Talk about adrenalin .. and I was just getting ready to get flat.

LOL! You and me both. I was just about to shut down and foolishly checked FR one last time.

Shouldn'ta done that ;-)

122 posted on 08/02/2009 2:34:38 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Danae; Red Steel

BIRTHMAS ...

Keeper!


123 posted on 08/02/2009 2:35:01 AM PDT by STARWISE (The Art & Science Institute of Chicago Politics NE Div: now open at the White House)
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To: rxsid

WHY would one of Obama’s relatives get a copy of his birth certificate when he is 3 years old? Passport? Visa? Did he move between countries at age 3? Related to school or health care requirements in Indonesia? Any good guess?


124 posted on 08/02/2009 2:35:50 AM PDT by Mount Athos (A Giant luxury mega-mansion for Gore, a Government Green EcoShack made of poo for you)
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To: Jemian

I’m going to go out on a limb early on this one and call it BS. I hope that I’m wrong. I’m thinking Orly took the bait and this is the bc that guy has on Ebay. Granted, it looks far more legit than that fakity crap he posted on Factcheck.
I don’t trust that ebay guy. The woman that supposedly financed their trip to Kenya has a pretty active rap sheet over a period of several years. However, maybe that is a plus. :P There were pictures of him in Africa but those could have been photo shopped. I think this is bogus and an attempt to make Orly and others look like idiots.
I think we need to be very cautiously optimistic if Orly got this from that Ebay guy.
I hope that I am terribly wrong, but I really don’t think this is going to go anywhere. Rahm was over in Africa for nearly 3 weeks in December. You think he was really on a safari? or do you think he was doing clean up?


125 posted on 08/02/2009 2:36:11 AM PDT by mojitojoe (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for the people to remain silent.)
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To: politicalmerc
Great point. To take that a little further, since they were divorced in Hawaii, why would they need to get it from Kenya if he was born in Hawaii?

That "small" possibility Barack wasn't born in Hawaii. Ann Dunham signed her court papers filing for divorce on the January 20, 1964. See below. Who knows when the divorce became final.


126 posted on 08/02/2009 2:36:15 AM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Danae

It’s the 3AM Birthmas call he’s been dreading, and that Biden said he would be tested with.


127 posted on 08/02/2009 2:36:53 AM PDT by Kevmo (So America gets what America deserves - the destruction of its Constitution. ~Leo Donofrio, 6/1/09)
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To: john mirse

I am a year older than Obama (although born in the U.S, myself).

If that’s a fake, it’s one heck of a fake. I have both a Certificate of Live Birth (with the weight, Dr. etc) and the Certification of Live Birth (which looks like the document Obama has presented).

Damn. I’m gonna see if I have any wine in this house. LOL


128 posted on 08/02/2009 2:37:02 AM PDT by Daisyjane69 (Michael Reagan: "Welcome back, Dad, even if you're wearing a dress and bearing children this time)
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To: rxsid

Print copies before it disappears.


129 posted on 08/02/2009 2:37:13 AM PDT by muddler
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To: Kevmo
I tried to get Intrade to post a contract so we could trade on something associated with this scandal. No dice.

Meh... They're obviously not going to support anyone betting against their messiah.

130 posted on 08/02/2009 2:37:19 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: perchprism

I looked around at DU and didnt see anything...

I sent this thread to Drudge

wonder when he will pick it up


131 posted on 08/02/2009 2:37:49 AM PDT by woofie
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To: rxsid

FReepers, this site could lead to your computer being infected with malware.

The site may have been hacked and malware could have been uploaded to the blogs’ server to be downloaded by visitors.

I will be running some tests to try to find any bugs but I wanted to warn people now.

As a computer consultant, I wouldn’t recommend that the average computer user visit this site, let alone download something from it, until it is confirmed safe.

Google ‘crawled’ this site and found malware so I’d avoid it, if possible.

If you suspect infection I recommend Malwarebytes (free) and NOD32 Antivirus (39.99) for cleaning your PC.


132 posted on 08/02/2009 2:38:09 AM PDT by Boucheau (The enemy of freedom is on the left.)
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To: Windflier

133 posted on 08/02/2009 2:38:12 AM PDT by STARWISE (The Art & Science Institute of Chicago Politics NE Div: now open at the White House)
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To: Eye of Unk

Well if she’s actively and judiciously seeking for the document to be verified, that shows wisdom on her part.

The last thing she or anyone else needs is for her to rush to release something that’s provably faked.

At the moment, I’m running on the assumption that it is not genuine. If it is, so be it and we’ll deal with the fallout from there.

If not, it still doesn’t change the mountain of inconsistencies that surround Obama’s birth and life.


134 posted on 08/02/2009 2:38:27 AM PDT by PowerPro (2009 - Conservative Revolution Reborn (Go Palin!))
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To: Kevmo

I’ll bet dollars to donuts that Book 44B is already missing from the Coast Province Registrars Office
_____________
If it is, then it’s real. Try getting Kenya show that book. Rahm took care of that in December.


135 posted on 08/02/2009 2:39:06 AM PDT by mojitojoe (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for the people to remain silent.)
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To: STARWISE

Watch the stock market on Monday. Let’s see what the world makes of it.


136 posted on 08/02/2009 2:39:32 AM PDT by voveo
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To: Kevmo
I’m using the latest Internet Explorer.

After going back and re-reading your first post I noticed that google also generated the warning you got. Orly sounds a bit peeved with google, but it's entirely possible a link posted by someone else visiting her site could be the culprit. A worm in the apple? Then again, google may be showing any leftist leanings they may harbor...

137 posted on 08/02/2009 2:40:26 AM PDT by ForGod'sSake (You have two choices and two choices only: SUBMIT or RESIST. Have I missed anything?)
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To: mojitojoe
I’m going to go out on a limb early on this one and call it BS.

I myself won't call it "BS" since it is clearly more convincing than the obviously fake Fight the Smears image.

Is it real? That's a question for experts. Have them compare the two documents --- and their provenance. Both of them appear to have enough control information to make a real records search from the proper authorities.

138 posted on 08/02/2009 2:40:54 AM PDT by snowsislander (NRA -- join today! 1-877-NRA-2000)
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To: john mirse

In addition, this document could force Obama to release his Hawaii long form birth certificate and his Occidental, Columbia, and Harvard records and his Hawaii high school records.
____________
you have a point there. It may shift the burden of proof to him. If the document is deemed to be real, I think it will force him to prove otherwise.


139 posted on 08/02/2009 2:41:07 AM PDT by mojitojoe (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for the people to remain silent.)
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To: ScaniaBoy

She only offered a color copy of the document. That does not mean she doesn’t have it.


140 posted on 08/02/2009 2:41:24 AM PDT by Danae (I AM JIM THOMPSON - Conservative does not equal Republican. Conservative does not compromise.)
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To: perchprism
If this is a hoax, Dr. Taitz can be disbarred. It is, in any case, verifiable. It states Soetoro was born in Coast Hospital, which at least is more info than the Hawaiian COLB.

I don't think so...she'd be disbarred because she's crossing her 'T'ees and dotting her 'I' eyes.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/18018712/03118509264

141 posted on 08/02/2009 2:41:29 AM PDT by Red Steel
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To: john mirse
Let's see what happens when document experts----pro-Obama experts, neutral experts, and anti-Obama experts---apply their technical skills to this document the way they applied their skills to the Obama Hawaii short form birth certificate that Obama displayed on his website.

What actual "experts" ever examined Obama's alleged COLB?

I'll admit to missing a thread here and there on this issue, but it seems that that information would have stuck out in the conversations, since.

As far as I know, FactCheck.org were the only people who were allowed to look at the alleged paper copy of Obama's COLB, and they're not expert document examiners by any stretch.

142 posted on 08/02/2009 2:41:46 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: rxsid

Perhaps something amusing....

Perhaps something devastating.


143 posted on 08/02/2009 2:42:03 AM PDT by Bullish ( Reality is the best cure for delusion.)
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To: mojitojoe

I should have gone to sleep...;) I agree with you and hope that Orly and Keyes don’t make testicles out of themselves before this is examined.

Btw......Oduya is a surname, common among the Luo ethnic group in Kenya.(wiki) LOL.


144 posted on 08/02/2009 2:42:12 AM PDT by Electric Graffiti (Yonder stands your orphan with his gun)
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To: john mirse

Coupla things:

Is there a Joshua Simon Oduya who worked for the Kenyan Dept of Vital Stats in 1964?
Is there an E. F. Lavender who was the hospital registrar at Coast General Hospital in 1961?
Do the sequence numbers of the page and volume records of the original match those that would represent a birth on Aug 4th, 1961?

A hit on ANY of these items would be strong corroborating evidence. A hit on more than one, or possibly all three, seems to me to make it almost a certainty.

Remember, the only documents we have seen from Hawaii make no mention at all of what hospital, name of the registrar or attending physician, nothing. Just that he was born on Aug 4th, 1961


145 posted on 08/02/2009 2:42:19 AM PDT by djf (The "racism" spiel is a crutch, those who unashamedly lean on it, cripples!)
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To: STARWISE

My fault. You didn’t copy anything so I didn’t know what you meant by total hoax. Thought you were referring to this document.


146 posted on 08/02/2009 2:42:24 AM PDT by politicalmerc
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To: Mount Athos

WHY would one of Obama’s relatives get a copy of his birth certificate when he is 3 years old? Passport? Visa? Did he move between countries at age 3? Related to school or health care requirements in Indonesia? Any good guess?
_________________
Nothing. I checked the time line and the date doesn’t seem to coincide with any reason to get the BC. At least not that I have figured out yet.


147 posted on 08/02/2009 2:42:25 AM PDT by mojitojoe (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for the people to remain silent.)
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To: john mirse

There’s some kind of brownish smudge on it.

It looks like an authentic cigarette ash burn, right by what I think says “Maiden Surname”.


148 posted on 08/02/2009 2:43:05 AM PDT by 2111USMC
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To: perchprism

It’s the Obots. They also did that to her two former sites.


149 posted on 08/02/2009 2:44:13 AM PDT by SatinDoll (NO Foreign Nationals as our President!!)
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To: woofie
I think maybe the CIA is pissed

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Wouldn't that be funny as hell! Someone said that you really don't want to piss of the guys who's job it is to FIND SKELETONS in various closets around the world.

150 posted on 08/02/2009 2:44:13 AM PDT by politicalmerc
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