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Is this really it? (re: possible Obama's Kenyan B.C. - Attny Taitz) Click on the link
orlytaitzesq.com ^ | 8/2/2009 | rxsid

Posted on 08/02/2009 1:35:53 AM PDT by rxsid

Edited on 08/06/2009 12:10:02 AM PDT by John Robinson. [history]

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To: rxsid; LucyT; bgill; Hotlanta Mike; cripplecreek; SunkenCiv; stockpirate; ckilmer; ...
Also, no wife or children are listed...

I think it's quite obvious that the main purpose of Barack Sr.'s obtaining that passport at that time was to come to Hawaii as a student. And knowing of his lifestyle once he arrived on American soil, it's a safe bet to assume that he didn't want any of his new friends in the US to know about his family in Kenya. So he conveniently neglected them on his passport. That's the simplest explanation.

10,851 posted on 04/11/2013 5:25:26 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: Fred Nerks

Fred,

Also, in the memo, the “Barack” is written in longhand, while the “Obama” is printed.


10,852 posted on 04/11/2013 5:35:37 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: justiceseeker93

Sounds quite possible.

Possible he lied about age

Is the doc with the “1936” birthdate date- stamped later than the one with the “1934”.

I.e. does it show he wanted to be “younger” to stay here longer?


10,853 posted on 04/11/2013 5:46:30 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: justiceseeker93; Fred Nerks

Woah,

the 1962 doc has 1934 for the birth year.

Two years later....

the 1964 doc has 1936 filled in for the birth year!

Yup, lied to buy himself more time!


10,854 posted on 04/11/2013 5:51:40 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: justiceseeker93
There's another 'simple' explanation...he simply wasn't married to Kezia and he had no children. In 'Dreams' words are put into the mouth of Auma; 'granny' Sarah tells them, as they dispute who should inherit, none of you are his children

Now why would that be included in 'Dreams' unless is was common knowledge and had to be dealt with? When Auma speaks again, she explains that the outburst was due to 'granny' Sarah's jealousy.

There was no reason for Sarah to be jealous. She's the mother of Yusuf, one of the surviving sons of Onyango, and it's Yusuf who is the Clan Elder.

10,855 posted on 04/11/2013 5:59:08 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM)
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To: WildHighlander57

Or he adjusted his birth year to coincide with the fake birth certificate that was created at the same time as the birth announcements were published...Mr & Mrs Obama, a Son. Remember?

He used 1934 as his birth year right up until he ‘became’ a father, as far as I can see.


10,856 posted on 04/11/2013 6:06:11 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM)
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To: Fred Nerks

“It’s a little more complicated than that...he used both years.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2306351/posts?page=10848#10848

But he didn’t use 1936 until three weeks after the miracle birth in Hawaii...and THAT coincides with the 25 years of age on the forged BC.”

I have a question on this part:

“But he didn’t use 1936 until three weeks after the miracle birth....”

OK, youre saying the first time he started using “1936” was in 1961?

And does that mean the forging started (matching the COLB birth year) back then?


10,857 posted on 04/11/2013 6:06:40 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: Fred Nerks

Why would he adjust his birth year to match a forged b.c.?

Why wouldn’t the forgers put his birth year into the forged b.c.?


10,858 posted on 04/11/2013 6:10:00 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: WildHighlander57

That’s what it looks like. But don’t take my word for it, I posted the link to the immigration file, check it out. You might also take a closer look at the ‘Woods Memo’ - why does the handwriting of a memo dated August 31, 1961, match the handwriting on a document from 1964?

There are no easy or quick answers, you need to become familiar with the contents.


10,859 posted on 04/11/2013 6:12:28 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM)
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To: WildHighlander57
Why wouldn’t the forgers put his birth year into the forged b.c.?

Maybe they knew something we don't know. There were two brothers, one was two years older than the other. I can't tell you what went on, I can only show what I can see.

If he was born in 1934 he would have been 27 in 1961.

10,860 posted on 04/11/2013 6:20:14 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM)
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To: WildHighlander57

He was interviewed September 19, 1959 in an article that appeared in The Saturday Star Bulletin, in which he was described as a 25 year old Business Administration Major.

Kenya had no higher education institutions, the high school at Maseno from which he graduated was a trade school. Where then, was he educated to enable him to take up a university scholarship?


10,861 posted on 04/11/2013 6:26:41 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM)
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To: Fred Nerks; LucyT; Cold Case Posse Supporter; Red Steel; Kenny Bunk; Flotsam_Jetsome; edge919

“The same hand which completed the form dated April 21, 1964 - wrote the name Barack Obama TWICE on the memo in August 1961.”

This would imply that the same hand forged both documents which would imply that the INS FOIA documents were all forged. As I explain below, I see no evidence of that, and I have had to assess many signatures professionally, though I don’t claim to be an expert.

With reference to the numerous signatures at the link below...

http://www.scribd.com/doc/54015762/Barack-Hussein-Obama-Sr-Immigration-File

BHO Sr. has a very distinctive and mostly consistent way of writing the capital ‘B’ in Barack which is not used in the memo purported by be written by Mr. Wood in the 1964 memo.

The short version of my analysis is that Senior makes his ‘B’ with two strokes and Wood makes his ‘B’ with a single stroke.

Sr.’s ‘B’ begins with a single down-stroke which often starts too low to form a complete left side of a ‘B’. Then he lifts the pen and begins the two loops of the ‘B’ beginning at the top left of the letter. This results in a notable gap (the size varies) between where the initial downstroke of the ‘B’ started and where the first loop of the second stroke begins at the top left of the letter ‘B’.

Wood’s ‘B’ begins with a downstroke starting high on the left and then he retraces back up that first stroke to begin the loops without lifting the pen. So Wood’s ‘B’ is completed with a single stroke in both examples in the memo. There is no open gap on the left side of the top ‘B’ loop in Wood’s ‘B’s, as there is with Senior’s.

Also, when Sr. finishes his ‘B’ he adds a little delimited loop on the bottom of the lower ‘B’ loop. When continuing with the lower case portion of “Barack,’ Sr. lifts the pen after completing the loop on the ‘B’ and begins the lowercase ‘a’ at the top right of the letter before circling counter-clockwise to complete the letter. Sr. does not retrace across the top of the first ‘a’ in Barack, but Wood does.

Wood doesn’t lift his pen when going from finishing the capital ‘B’ before going to the ‘a’ in the first instance of ‘Barack’ at the top of the memo. Wood cursively goes directly from completing the ‘B’ to begin the top of the ‘a’ at the top right of the letter and retraces the top counter-clockwise before completing the ‘a’ and going on.

These are two very distinctive writing styles, by different people, IMO. I see no evidence or implication of forgery in these or any of the INS FOIA documents.


10,862 posted on 04/11/2013 6:34:17 PM PDT by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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To: WildHighlander57; Brown Deer
...Why wouldn’t the forgers put his birth year into the forged b.c.?

Take a good look at the document dated August 31, 1961. That's about three weeks after the miracle in Hawaii. Note carefully, what has been written by the kenyan student and what has been added by another hand...and how that information coincides with the handwritten memo ALSO DATED 31ST AUGUST 1961.

10,863 posted on 04/11/2013 6:40:58 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM)
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To: Fred Nerks

Looking at the two docs you posted(exclude memo for the moment)

The 1962 doc has 1934 for the birth year.

Two years later....

the 1964 doc has 1936 filled in for the birth year!

Looks like he lied to buy himself more time!

1961 forged b.c. doesn’t fit the timeline because it has 1936 birth year.


10,864 posted on 04/11/2013 6:47:53 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: All; Fred Nerks; LucyT; Cold Case Posse Supporter; WildHighlander57; philman_36; Fantasywriter

“There’s another ‘simple’ explanation...he simply wasn’t married to Kezia and he had no children. In ‘Dreams’ words are put into the mouth of Auma; ‘granny’ Sarah tells them, as they dispute who should inherit, none of you are his children”

“Dreams” is totally unreliable and has been forensically demonstrated to have been extensively penned by Bill Ayers, IMO.

The simple explanation is that Sr. was an opportunistic serial liar who put down whichever wives and children he thought would benefit him most at the time, just as he did with his birth year.

On the record, Kezia says she had a tribal marriage with Senior and legitimate biographers at least more independent than Ayers have not even hinted at finding any evidence that Roy and Auma were not BHO Sr.’s children.

In one of the FOIA documents where ‘wife’ is asked for a name appearing to have been a K for Kezia is crossed out and Ann S. Dunham is written in. Just the fact that the name of one wife is scratched out and another substituted implies at least one additional wife.

Also in one of the FOIA docs ‘Roy Obama’ is named as his son when children are asked for (but not Barry). This son had to come from a prior marriage as declaring bastard children to the INS would be out of the question in 1961, I would think.

In the FOIA docs U of HI officials report to INS that BHO Sr. is believed to still be married in Kenya, even though he ‘married’ Stanley Ann after getting her ‘happa’. INS makes a note to challenge any claim by Sr. to have been married to Stanley Ann based on bigamy and an attempt at using a sham marriage to gain or extend entry to the US.

The Mboya letters archive have BHO Sr. asking Mboya to assist his wife in Nairobi while he is completing his studies at Harvard. I have seen no evidence that the Mboya archive is forged.


10,865 posted on 04/11/2013 6:53:14 PM PDT by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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To: justiceseeker93

Thanks for the ping.

ping to several comments..


10,866 posted on 04/11/2013 6:54:22 PM PDT by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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To: WildHighlander57
...1961 forged b.c. doesn’t fit the timeline because it has 1936 birth year.

The BC shows the age of the father as 25. That means he was shown as having a 1936 birth year when he himself was declaring a 1934 birth year.


10,867 posted on 04/11/2013 6:56:49 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM)
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To: All

I'm going to let you decide what content on this document was written by the kenyan student and what content was added by ANOTHER HAND.

10,868 posted on 04/11/2013 7:00:19 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM)
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To: Fred Nerks

So who was Kezia’s husband & the father of HER kids?


10,869 posted on 04/11/2013 7:03:08 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: Fred Nerks

The following are darker ink:

Legal separation 2 mos ago

Barack Obama 2nd, 2 yrs

Has one?

The following does not agree with the “have not” filled in next to the part about is he employed or have a business in the us:

Harvard

Part time research

1500/yr. 1962-1964

Harvard 1500 grant & tuition per year


10,870 posted on 04/11/2013 7:19:56 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: WildHighlander57

Who knows? You must have missed the story that the reason the kenyan wasn’t concerned about having girlfriends and wives after he left Kenya, was that he found out Kezia had had two children in his absence.
So if two of them weren’t fathered by the kenyan, how would you know which were his children, or to whom Kezia was married?

But far more telling, is that Malik, who is supposed to be the eldest, and would rightfully have inherited the land that belonged to his grandfather and then his father, DID NOT INHERIT.

When he wanted to build a mosque on the clan land, he had to ask ‘granny’ Sarah. And I believe she refused. She could not do otherwise. Her son, Yusuf, who is supposedly the eldest son of Onyango, IS STILL ALIVE.


10,871 posted on 04/11/2013 7:20:05 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM)
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To: WildHighlander57

Senior’s Estate
Obama writes in “Dreams...”:

...”It’s this business with the Old Man’s estate. Sarah is one of the people who has disputed the will. She’s been telling people that Roy, Bernard, myself — that none of us are the Old Man’s children.” Auma sighed. “I don’t know. A part of me sympathizes with her. She’s had a hard life. She never had the chances the Old Man had, you see, to study or go abroad. It made her very bitter. She thinks that somehow my mum, myself, that we are to blame for her situation.”

“But how much could the Old Man’s estate be worth?”

“Not much. Maybe a small government pension. A piece of worthless land. I try to stay out of it. Whatever is there has probably been spent on lawyers by now. But you see, everyone expected so much from the Old Man. He made them think that he had everything, even when he had nothing. So now, instead of getting on with their lives, they just wait and argue among themselves, thinking that the Old Man somehow is going to rescue them from his grave...”

Read between the lines. “Granny” Sarah, as the wife of Onyango, mother of YUSUF, JANE, ZEITUNI, OMAR AND SAYID, had every right to protect the inheritance of HER CHILDREN. To allow the children of Kezia to make claims, would have eliminated the rights of her ELDEST SON YUSUF.

It was not just a matter of inheritance, culturally, as the mother of the eldest son of ONYANGO, she would have lost her STATURE in the tribe.

Who is NOW the tribal elder? It isn’t MALIK!

It’s YUSUF! The older brother of Barak Hussein Obama Onyango. He wears the hat of an elder, and carries the whisk which proclaims his tribal position.

http://www.theobamafile.com/_family/senior.htm


10,872 posted on 04/11/2013 7:26:44 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM)
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To: WildHighlander57

The cap and the whisk denote his position as the Clan Elder.Chuckle. He's the only one who never married and had children. Maybe he's gay?

And now I'm outa here, there's a bad odour following me as usual. Anything else you might need you'll probably find on the page-link to THE OBAMA FILE.

10,873 posted on 04/11/2013 7:31:00 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM)
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To: Brown Deer

Brown deer

Looking at posts #850, (854), 855, 856, (857,858), 859, 863, (864), and 867....

I think the b.c. is the document that is out of place w.r.t. the birth year used.

Do you see any other discrepancy ?


10,874 posted on 04/11/2013 7:34:37 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: Seizethecarp

Seizethecarp,

Looking at posts #850, (854), 855, 856, (857,858), 859, 863, (864), and 867....

I think the b.c. is the document that is out of place w.r.t. the birth year used.


10,875 posted on 04/11/2013 7:38:54 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: WildHighlander57

FWIW: Page 25 at this link, from 1963, shows a birth year of 1936: http://www.scribd.com/doc/59560239/FOIA-Release-Records-Relating-to-Barry-Soetoro-Stanley-Ann-Dunham-Barack-Obama-Sr-Lolo-Soetoro-Department-of-Homeland-Security

Also, pages 27 and 29 and 31 from August 1962 show 1936. However, page 32 from June 1962 shows 1934.

I haven’t checked the rest, but it appears as if he decided to lie between June and August 1962.


10,876 posted on 04/11/2013 7:47:46 PM PDT by Greenperson
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To: Seizethecarp

See #10868, what is your opinion of it? There’s a goof about is he employed... some parts are darker ink...


10,877 posted on 04/11/2013 7:49:35 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: WildHighlander57; Seizethecarp; Brown Deer

Put “10” in front of those post numbers I posted to you

Ten THOUSAND

:0


10,878 posted on 04/11/2013 7:51:19 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: Greenperson

Let me know what you come up with, looking at the list in post 10875.

Many thanks,
WH57


10,879 posted on 04/11/2013 7:55:42 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: Greenperson

Hi Green! On 31st August, 1961, he has a birth year of 1934, and that form is dated three weeks after the miracle in Hawaii. Now that means the LFBC should show his age in 1961 as 27. But it doesn't, it shows his age as 25. You don't think 'they' did all this just to make us crazy?

And then of course, you have to take into consideration that the interview conducted in September 1959 in the Star Bulletin has him as aged 25. I give up, my head just can't take it.

10,880 posted on 04/11/2013 7:59:38 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM)
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To: WildHighlander57

You don’t need someone else to tell you anything, all you need to do is LOOK at the document and decide what the kenyan student wrote in his own hand, and what was added by someone else, who didn’t bother to at least initial the additions.
Do you find this acceptable?

When do you think the additions were made? Silly question. There’s no way of telling, is there?

There’s a foul smell around here trying to make it sound as if I am shouting FORGERY. I am not. I am simply trying to point out what appears to be an anomaly.

The added writing on the form includes the name of the child. The name is shown as Barack Obama 2nd.

The name on the BC is Barack Hussein Obama 11. There’s a difference. Would a proud father after whom the child has been named three weeks ago, make a mistake like that? Just another anomaly...one of thousands.


10,881 posted on 04/11/2013 8:12:16 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM)
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To: WildHighlander57; Fred Nerks

“You must have missed the story that the reason the kenyan wasn’t concerned about having girlfriends and wives after he left Kenya, was that he found out Kezia had had two children in his absence.”

IIRC, that was a story told to a reporter after Barry became a POTUS candidate 50 years after the fact by a sympathetic (i.e. biased) personal friend of BHO Sr. There would obviously be a motivation to cast Sr. in the best light by this friend and it was evident in the article, IMO.

First there is an admission here that Kezia and BHO Sr. were married and had children. Second, the story doesn’t make sense because the two children that were questioned were AFTER BHO Sr. had bigamously married Stanley Ann AND Ruth Baker!


10,882 posted on 04/11/2013 8:28:27 PM PDT by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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To: WildHighlander57; Fred Nerks

“But far more telling, is that Malik, who is supposed to be the eldest, and would rightfully have inherited the land that belonged to his grandfather and then his father, DID NOT INHERIT.”

The source for the “did not inherit” claim is the totally unreliable “Dreams” dialog, likely written by Ayers for his own purposes.

Malik seems to be in possession of certain tribal-related properties and use of Seniors name to start an institution.

Does anyone think that Ruth Baker Obama Ndesand’s Jewish son, Mark Ndesandjo, would inherit Seniors’s tribal property back in the village? He has decamped from Kenya to China via many years in the US!


10,883 posted on 04/11/2013 8:33:41 PM PDT by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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Simply for the record. The first is from the immigration document, the second and third are from the Woods memo.

10,884 posted on 04/11/2013 8:37:10 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM)
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To: WildHighlander57

“I think the b.c. is the document that is out of place w.r.t. the birth year used.”

I agree that the INS FOIA docs are inconsistent. The forged HI pdf only has an age, 25, implying a 1936 birth year which Sr. did not appear to have adopted in the INS docs until later.


10,885 posted on 04/11/2013 8:39:04 PM PDT by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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To: WildHighlander57

“See #10868, what is your opinion of it? There’s a goof about is he employed... some parts are darker ink...”

It looks like an INS official filled in parts of the form because Senior didn’t fill it all in.

Sr. appears to have lied or been ignorant about the fact that he was divorced, not separated in April.


10,886 posted on 04/11/2013 8:46:59 PM PDT by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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To: WildHighlander; All; Fred Nerks

“You don’t need someone else to tell you anything, all you need to do is LOOK at the document and decide what the kenyan student wrote in his own hand, and what was added by someone else, who didn’t bother to at least initial the additions.”

Senior appears to have regularly submitted forms with lots of blank areas that would need to be filled in by an INS official during either a personal interview or follow-up phone call.


10,887 posted on 04/11/2013 8:51:25 PM PDT by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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To: Seizethecarp

No one mentioned Mark, he and the kenyan family parted company when his mother divorced his father after some eight years of marriage. There’s nothing in your rebuttal that allows for the existence of the eldest son of Onyango, YUSUF, who attended the school at Maseno as JOSEPH.

I’m quite aware that the eldest son has been totally ignored and is not identified when he appears in photographs taken in the village, but none-the-less, he exists, he is the Clan Elder, he wears the cap and carries the whisk which denotes his position in the clan, and as his mother, while he lives, ‘granny’ Sarah enjoys a certain stature.

For Malik to inherit the land that belonged to Onyango, if he is indeed the son of Kezia and the kenyan student, or the son of Yusuf and Kezia, Malik will have to wait for Yusuf to join the ancestors.


10,888 posted on 04/11/2013 8:55:12 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM)
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There's one in this group who isn't impressed. He's the man wearing the cap...

10,889 posted on 04/11/2013 8:59:17 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM)
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To: Fred Nerks

See post #10870, I listed what was in darker ink.


10,890 posted on 04/11/2013 9:04:16 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: Fred Nerks

10,891 posted on 04/11/2013 9:10:49 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
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To: Fred Nerks

Who’s the fella in the pink?


10,892 posted on 04/11/2013 9:19:59 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Hey RATS! Control your murdering freaks.)
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To: Seizethecarp; Greenperson

Siezethecarp,

I think that b.c. was cobbled together from whatever info was at hand, and they didn’t have the 1934 year handy (b.c. has age “25” & 1961 so that pegs year at 1936, erroneously)

Here’s a post from greenperson, who figures 0 SR started the fibbing June -august 1962.

“To: WildHighlander57

FWIW: Page 25 at this link, from 1963, shows a birth year of 1936: http://www.scribd.com/doc/59560239/FOIA-Release-Records-Relating-to-Barry-Soetoro-Stanley-Ann-Dunham-Barack-Obama-Sr-Lolo-Soetoro-Department-of-Homeland-Security

Also, pages 27 and 29 and 31 from August 1962 show 1936. However, page 32 from June 1962 shows 1934.

I haven’t checked the rest, but it appears as if he decided to lie between June and August 1962.

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10,893 posted on 04/11/2013 9:20:32 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

The woman in the pink head-dress is ‘granny’ Sarah.


10,894 posted on 04/11/2013 9:24:55 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM)
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To: Seizethecarp

The entry about not being employed vs. the entry about the Harvard grant $ would support your point about o SR leaving stuff off and leaving it for the clerks to fill out.


10,895 posted on 04/11/2013 9:27:14 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: WildHighlander57

I know what was added and what was written by the kenyan student. What he wrote is obviously ALL THAT HE WAS PREPARED TO TELL THEM.

Someone else completed the form.

Now let me ask you this (for the last time) if YOU completed a form, signed and dated it, and handed it in, would YOU be happy if someone else came along sometime later, and completed the empty spaces for you?

WITHOUT ANY INDICATION THAT THE INFORMATION HAD NOT BEEN SUPPLIED BY YOURSELF.

WOULD YOU?

How the heck would you know what someone else wrote there?

And that’s all I have to say.


10,896 posted on 04/11/2013 9:31:19 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM)
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To: Fred Nerks

Maybe 0 SR took correspondence courses? How common was it back then?


10,897 posted on 04/11/2013 9:32:47 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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“I think that b.c. was cobbled together from whatever info was at hand, and they didn’t have the 1934 year handy (b.c. has age “25” & 1961 so that pegs year at 1936, erroneously)”

That is what it looks like to me as being most likely.


10,898 posted on 04/11/2013 9:42:18 PM PDT by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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To: WildHighlander57

Correspondence? In Kenya? If they had no higher education after high school, who was going to admininster correspondence courses?
He apparently worked as a clerk for Elizabeth Mooney and the Laubach Literacy Society.
He would have needed to find a private, full time tutor.

Frankly, I have no idea how he achieved the credentials he claimed to have when he was interviewed in Hawaii.


10,899 posted on 04/11/2013 9:49:50 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM)
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To: Fred Nerks

And all I was trying to do first was figure out the 1936 vs 1934 dates on the two forms and get input from folks about the dates.

Then answer your question on where were the differences in handwritng on the two forms .

I hadn’t gotten to the memo yet.

Is there any validity to seizethecarps point about blanks being filled in later as a result of data being filled in by a clerk during a phone call or because of 0 SR coming in to the office and the clerk is filling it out in front of o SR ?


10,900 posted on 04/11/2013 10:44:41 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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