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Is this really it? (re: possible Obama's Kenyan B.C. - Attny Taitz) Click on the link
orlytaitzesq.com ^ | 8/2/2009 | rxsid

Posted on 08/02/2009 1:35:53 AM PDT by rxsid

Edited on 08/06/2009 12:10:02 AM PDT by John Robinson. [history]

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To: WildHighlander57

Only you and the person making the claim can answer that. I am not going to be the ham in the sandwich. Ask the freeper who told you that, ask him to show you what it was (THE SOURCE) that brought about his POV or opinion.

Don’t tell me, show me, might be a good approach.


10,901 posted on 04/11/2013 10:59:33 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM)
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To: WildHighlander57
...Then answer your question on where were the differences in handwritng on the two forms .

You make it sound as if you were looking for something to help me out, believe me, I asked you that question about the differences in the writing only SO THAT YOU WOULD SEE THERE WAS A DIFFERENCE.

Most people haven't even noticed.

The answers to questions on that form that the kenyan did complete, was obviously what he wanted the immigration department to know.

The answers to the questions that the additional handwritng completed might just be what the person who added it, WANTS US TO KNOW.

You'll never know WHO it was because they didn't sign it. And you'll never know WHEN the material was added, because it isn't dated.

I gather that the formal, accepted method is to write a memo by hand or type it, with a date and a signature. If you scroll through the file, you'll see that's how most of the questions are treated.

Why should this one be different? The information added is crucial to the mythos of birth and parentage. It's simply not good enough IMO to have it appear UNDATED AND ANONYMOUSLY.

10,902 posted on 04/11/2013 11:13:38 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM)
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To: WildHighlander57

The Woods memo

An additional document from Obama Sr.’s INS file is relevant: a handwritten memo dated Aug. 31, 1961, by William Wood, as seen in Exhibit 5.

Exhibit 5: Barack Obama Sr. INS File, Woods Memo, Aug. 31, 1961. Click to enlarge.

The memo’s use of the term “claims” suggests the information came from Obama Sr., possibly at an in-person meeting with an officer at the INS office when he filled out and filed his visa extension form.

The memo confirms Dunham was leaving Hawaii to attend school in Seattle, an additional factor the INS would have examined had an investigation been undertaken into the legitimacy of the marriage and the fatherhood of the child.

In the last paragraph, the memo notes the child was living with the mother at the home of the grandparents, while the Kenyan was living at the Alencastre Street address – facts that did not need to be seriously considered if the only relevant question in extending Obama Sr.’s visa was whether or not he was then a student in good standing.

Interesting, the note appended to the memo suggests the information the Kenyan provided raised serious questions about the wife and child that would need to be answered if he were applying for more than a temporary stay.

Given that the INS was not going to conduct an investigation, the Woods memo appears to document only what the Kenyan said and did not determine whether or not the claims were true.

While Obama Sr.’s INS files do not prove he was not the father of the future president, they provide ample documentation the officer was skeptical the Kenyan was legitimately married to Dunham and/or was the biological father of Barack Obama II.

By deciding to stay with the temporary student visa status, the Kenyan obviated the need for an INS investigation that might have uncovered in 1961 that the marriage was fraudulent and the biological father of the child was someone else.

http://www.theobamafile.com/_family/senior.htm


10,908 posted on 04/11/2013 11:36:12 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (so?)
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To: WildHighlander57

THE WOODS MEMO

10,909 posted on 04/11/2013 11:40:03 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (so?)
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And while I’m in the mood, maybe someone can tell me the name of the mother and the name of her parents and the address where the mother lives with said parents...

BECAUSE IT DOESN’T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THAT ON THE MEMO.


10,910 posted on 04/12/2013 12:01:20 AM PDT by Fred Nerks (so?)
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To: Nasher

This document is a confessed forgery. The forger posted pictures of the process used to create forgery about 5 years ago. I have to admit is is well done, and authentic looking - but it isn’t real.

Oh, how short our memories are!


10,911 posted on 04/12/2013 6:36:43 AM PDT by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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To: Nasher

This document is a confessed forgery. The forger posted pictures of the process used to create forgery about 5 years ago. I have to admit is is well done, and authentic looking - but it isn’t real.

Oh, how short our memories are!


10,912 posted on 04/12/2013 6:36:44 AM PDT by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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To: Fred Nerks

If the person partly filled the form and later had an update meeting to fill in the missing items, then they would have no reason to be upset.

If they filled the form partially, and someone later filled in the missing items without a meeting, would the form filler find out about the later additions?


10,913 posted on 04/12/2013 7:01:18 AM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: Fred Nerks

“.....Why should this one be different? The information added is crucial to the mythos of birth and parentage. It’s simply not good enough IMO to have it appear UNDATED AND ANONYMOUSLY.”

If this is the only document in that immigration file in which the kids name appears, then it is odd.


10,914 posted on 04/12/2013 7:47:14 AM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: justiceseeker93
"I think it's quite obvious that the main purpose of Barack Sr.'s obtaining that passport at that time was to come to Hawaii as a student. And knowing of his lifestyle once he arrived on American soil, it's a safe bet to assume that he didn't want any of his new friends in the US to know about his family in Kenya. So he conveniently neglected them on his passport. That's the simplest explanation. "

I think you right. The guy was a scoundrel.

The apple didn't fall too far from the tree either.

10,915 posted on 04/12/2013 9:10:08 AM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: Fred Nerks

Would need to research Washington state’s university 1961 records to see which women students named ann or anna came from Hawaii.


10,916 posted on 04/12/2013 10:17:45 AM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: Fred Nerks

Page 21 of the INA docs is a followup to get info, its in 1964.

Explains why the blanks (both in the memo and that app you posted) and why it was done later.


10,917 posted on 04/12/2013 10:24:37 AM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: WildHighlander57

How many ladies with first or middle names Ann or Anna.


10,918 posted on 04/12/2013 10:27:12 AM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: Fred Nerks

Kenyan airlift of students was a program set up back then to get them a better education BECAUSE of no university there.


10,919 posted on 04/12/2013 10:38:16 AM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: justiceseeker93; rxsid

And he fudged dates of birth when that would help him get out of a jam.

Plus didn’t say anything about his wife and kid because that would get him in hot water.

Those INA docs have a lot of info on it, see Fred’s post #10848 for the link.

The docs fred nerks posted are the pages 14 and 34.

See my post #10917 about page 21 . Also on that page they talk about multiple marriages.

Pages 35 and 36 are where they talk about his marrying Ann dunham.

Yup, 0 SR was a scoundrel...


10,920 posted on 04/12/2013 10:47:42 AM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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