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Posted on 08/02/2009 1:35:53 AM PDT by rxsidEdited on 08/06/2009 12:10:02 AM PDT by John Robinson. [history]
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It should be obvious by now that there are participants on this thread whose intent is to provoke - and have the entire thread removed. Don’t let them. Carry on as if they are not here. The ‘boss’ doesn’t have time to sift the wheat from the chaff when it comes down to the wire. JR will simply call it a ‘flame war’ and SHUT IT DOWN.
And the little terrorists know it.
Don’t let them get away with it. Please ignore the provocation.
This is the stranded attorney that was a law student in Moscow in 1981, who is now an African government official. His surname became Ekua after returning to Africa. This is a newer version/portrait of the man. His plight was originally published in the newspaper requesting money to get back home after the Russians stopped supporting him and other students. Funny, that attorney was born the very same year as Barack Obama, and he was one of the lucky ones to study Marxism in Russia on their dime or ruble. He has dozens of pictures of himself on a website much like Facebook. All posed, as are his many friends. No messages, just photos.
You just proved my point. Anyone with an agenda can post anything on Wikipedia as long as they ask/ pay a friend to corroborate their lie.
You see how it works? They write fantasies to distract you from the topic under discussion. You (and I, and anyone else worth communicating with) get a little hot under the collar, (as I was expected to, after being referred to as grooming innocents like a paedophile) and anything new or interesting, doesn’t stand a chance. All the attention is sucked out of the topic by the oxygen thieves.
PICTURES TELL THE STORY MORE THAN 10,000 WORDS!
Looks like the two little boys grew up.
There is a discrepancy between the records in two departments at UH, according to the footnote in Wiki. Wiki gives the sources of the discrepancy clearly.
That discrepancy can be verified and investigated at UH, if necessary. I never insinuated that either UH department forged their record.
You’re wrong; I’m right, and this is the end of our discussion.
Right, and all the more reason why I would hate to see all that effort destroyed by an impotent vouyer and his little troupe of sycophants...which is shrinking as we speak. How many threads have been pulled due to their tactics? I haven't kept a record, but even one is too many. They are getting off on the power of being able to destroy anything that doesn't conform to their theories. Everything presented has to be discounted because the (faked) documents say otherwise, every word of mouth item posted, comes from someone too old or too young, or the journalist made a mistake. And above all else, it's patently obvious, the last thing they want is to allow the reader to study what is posted, and make up their own minds. And when something really interesting hits their nerve, the accusations and insults commence in ernest. It's pure provocation and nothing else.
“Looks like the two little boys grew up.”
Just so you know, this thread is being hijacked again with Mal-Val Narrative tasty tidbits.
WTPOTUS Blog labels the picture of the boys correctly as David and Mark Obama.
The man pictured to the right of POTUS Barry in the lower right is Roman Obama. The Mal-Val narrative posits that Roman Obama was fathered by BHO Sr. with “Anna Obama” (who was in the apartment house with Mary Toutonghi in early 1961, not 1962) and given the name BHO II at birth ahead of Barry.
Circa 1964, according to Mal-Val, Roman was stripped of his name and was spirited to Kenya and replaced in the US with Barry (the son of Malcolm X and Valerie Sarruf) in the care of Stanley Ann (who supposedly was never in HI prior to 1963.
The overwhelming proof that Stanley Ann was at UW when the official UW transcripts say she was destroys both the Dreams Narrative and the Mal-Val Narrative, IMO.
Not really. If it turns out that IF Stanley Ann was at the U of WA (which I find doubtful) it still doesn't make her the same woman as ANNA OBAMA SHOWN IN THE SEATTLE DIRECTORY FOR 1961 - for whom Mary quite clearly said she baby-sat when her own daughter, who was born in July, 1959, was 18 months old. And it doesn't make her the same person as the student shown in the 1961 Polk for Honolulu as ANN S OBAMA.
As a footnote, may I remind you, the 'Val-Mal' narrative to which you continously refer is an item of your own creation for which you have lifted the title from a video created by DR RJP still showing on his YouTube channel.
Question: has ANY prominent conservative investigator [such as Zullo], investigative journalist [such as Corsi], a documentarian such as Cashill, or any other conservative w good credentials laid out a detailed case against Stanley Ann being the mother? I don’t mean blogs or conspiracists. I mean an actual P.I. or similar. I.e.: someone like Zullo, specifically, who has a long & impeccable professional record as an investigator. Someone who has tracked down facts & evidence, and come forward w the conclusion that Obama is not SADO’s kid. Is this a blog-fueled idea only, or is a Zullo-esque figure at the heart of it?
.Mal and Val - not Ann and the Old Man .
Uploaded on Aug 7, 2011
Meet The Parents....of alias Barack Obama. Black Sunni Muslim father and White Lebanese Christian mother. Born in the ME, raised in Indonesia, became BHO II in 1982.
Got problems with the video? Take it up with the man you lifted the title from.
Blake's and Box's recollections agree with the fable in Dreams; Ann and Obama are madly in love, he is at Harvard, and a distressed wife and child are on their way to be with him. These recollections, however, are simply impossible. In reality, Ann Dunham wasn't "visiting"; she was living in Seattle and attending school at the University of Washington.
Anna Obama was listed in the Polk for 1961, she arrived in Seattle early enough to get into the directory and enroll at the U of WA. Stanley Ann Dunham showed up with zero and showed him to Susan Blake when he was a few weeks old. Susan maintains that was in late August 1961.
Ann couldn't have been on her way to Harvard because no one, including Barack Obama, Sr., knew anything about Harvard until May of 1962.
Stanley Ann Dunham told Susan she was flying out that same day for Boston. There's more to Boston than just Harvard. Susan says, she assumed Stanley Ann was going there to join her husband. At the time of the visit, the kenyan student was still in Hawaii - he didn't leave there until 22 June, 1962. Susan assumes after the event of 'Dreams' and it would be natural to do that. However, when Stanley Ann came on that visit, there's no way she would have said she was going to visit her husband in Boston because he was at Harvard as no one knew then that he was ever going to be going to Harvard. Stanley Ann flew out that day to go to Boston, and what we should be asking, is...if she was really going to Boston, who did she know there?
Yet Blake anchors the date of the visit to late August 1961 by referring to a young baby, "pink and very new," "3 weeks old"; "I showed her how to do it [change diapers]." If we accept the president's date of birth as August 4, 1961, then it is impossible for Blake not to be talking about 1961.
Of course she's talking about 1961. Harvard wasn't known about then. Stanley Ann simply told Susan she was flying to Boston. And in her original story, Susan said she never saw her again.
Finally, how can Blake describe Ann as being "nuts about him, crazy in love," when Ann had just left Obama Sr. back in Hawaii for good? The marriage (if indeed there was a marriage) didn't fall apart "a few years later," as Box stated; it had already fallen apart, as evidenced by Ann and baby moving to Seattle.
That's tricky. On the one hand, you have Anna Obama with a child born in January 1961 being baby-sat by Mary, and on the other hand you have Stanley Ann showing up with a newborn she obviously has no idea how to care for, at Susan Blake's house, after borrowing a car from a friend of her mothers...and she's off to Boston that very same day.
Are you beginning to get the idea that the Stanley Ann motherhood myth is the result of the blending of two women?
“Question: has ANY prominent conservative investigator [such as Zullo], investigative journalist [such as Corsi], a documentarian such as Cashill, or any other conservative w good credentials laid out a detailed case against Stanley Ann being the mother?”
Not that I have seen. When I started the Mal-Val thread I asked FReepers, Mal-Val trolls, spammers, SPs, you name it, if they had any evidence that pointed to any woman other than Stanley Ann being Barry’s mom and got bupkis after 1000+ comments.
There was the usual sly insinuation, shell-game with the baby pictures and baby identities and Roman Obama being born BHO II having a mamma from the Philippines but being raised in Kenya...all without a single document or piece of verifiable evidence...but lots of innuendo based on newspaper articles that rely on 50-year-old memories...or experimentation with different first names by a 19-year-old.
Thanks for your reply. My question was in earnest. I have a busy schedule so I can’t devote limitless time to research. Right now I wd be interested in receiving a link to the site of the most well respected & prominent conservative researcher/investigator who believes Stanley Ann is not the mother. If anyone can supply that link, thanks in advance.
What I’m NOT interested in: the ramblings of a virtual nobody or the theories of a blogger. If indeed Stanley Ann is not the mother, there must be some investigator somewhere w a decent reputation who’s come to that conclusion. I wd like to read his/her supporting evidence. Everyone I’ve been able to think of—including the three I already mentioned plus Al Hendershot—believes Stanley Ann is the mother. If she isn’t, someone must have come upon some actual evidence (to support that case). If they are willing to supply the link, I’d appreciate it.
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