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Posted on 08/02/2009 1:35:53 AM PDT by rxsidEdited on 08/06/2009 12:10:02 AM PDT by John Robinson. [history]
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I know of no thinker on FR more independent that WH57. Maybe it’s the Scot in him. You don’t give him credit, but you should. He thinks for himself like few I have ever encountered.
On another topic. If we could declare a 60 second truce, there is one question I wd ask you. Namely, did you discern the reason I quoted those movie lines, and did you understand that they had nothing to do w calling anyone the ‘i’ word? See, I thought that you of all people wd get it. You don’t have to say what ‘it’ is; I’m just curious. Did you, as I said, realize that the ‘i’ word had nothing to do w my intent when I posted those lines? [If you don’t want to answer, fine. It’s no big deal one way or the other, really.]
Seems I have to rephrase that previous comment, I wrote:
“Fred Nerks to Brown Deer
Shes achieving her ends. Shes distracting you. She will keep doing it until you bend or break. Ive just run across a comment from her to me thats over a year old, in which she suggested that the Mercer classmates would have to kill Maxine Box if she lied. Stay away.”
Needs to be corrected, it wasn’t the classmates she meant, it was something to do with Chicago. Smack me with a wet washcloth, I misquoted.
I’m out for the night, but I just wanted to say I liked your recap. I do hope the CCP shifts toward the college info eventually. Not being an investigator myself, I have no idea how they would crack Obama’s cone of silence. But I’d love to see them try.
Truce? You gotta be kidding me. To agree to even a sixty second truce, I would need to see you as an advesary, you’re nothing of the kind, you’re a gnat, a fly, a buzzing mosquito, a temporary irritation - and I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about, nor am I interested in thinking about it. You posted an address that meant nothing to me, and then an LOL! in capital letters, followed by some meaningless numbers, which, as you offered to pray for me, I wrongly assumed related to Bible verses. And now I’ve done it, replied to your inane question after suggesting to others that they should stay away from you. You are not well. And btw, I don’t think Maxine has anything to fear from the boys in Chicago. You have her placed too highly on the assassination list, just as your hero has the high school girl in bed with a man older than her own father, you’ve both illustrated brilliantly exactly how your minds work. Murder mysteries for you with a Biblical twist and vouyerism for him. Now you can look that up, and stick your lower-case ‘i’ where the sun isn’t shining. I don’t rely on movies and or talking heads or TV or even well meaning leaders of a cold case posse - I study the material and take it where it leads me. Something very few taking part in this discussion seem to be capable of. There are investigators who have more from our group than from anyone else. They will use it eventually I imagine, but they won’t need to notify you first or tell you their sources. Now get back into your fantasy world. You’re still being punked, like the man from American Thinker said...and it ain’t by me.
“And btw, I dont think Maxine has anything to fear from the boys in Chicago.”
Which was my whole point—a point you missed lock, stock & barrel. You also misrepresented the reason for the absurd murder scenario, & you took the entire comment out of context. But what’s new.
Sorry if I gave you too much credit re: the movie quote. For the record, I didn’t call you or anyone else the ‘i’ word. Anyone who thinks I did is missing the v obvious point of the quote. Par for the course.
Here is the latest great interview between Zullo and Mark Gillar where Zullo says the new (as yet undisclosed) evidence is so devastating that the Posse is now “in the driver’s seat” and will get to pick and chose which prosecutor will go after the forgery.
“Team Arpaio: Damning Felonious Obama ID Fraud Evidence Being Turned Over To New Entity?”
This really is my last post tonight. I just wanted to thank you for that info, & also point out the obvious. This latest CCP development is precisely what led to Hendershot being handcuffed & having his computer confiscated. There is no doubt about it. Obama is not merely worried; sounds like he’s nearing panic mode. I hope Arpaio’s & Zullo’s latest findings were not on Hendershot’s computer. Sounds like they weren’t. It also sounds like Obama’s lies are nearing the moment of reckoning. It should start getting interesting in the near future.
Biographer admits: There was no Obama family
In all the talk about David Maraniss new book, Barack Obama: The Story, the chattering classes seem to have overlooked the most significant of Maraniss revelations, namely that the story on which Obama based his 2008 candidacy is received myth, not the truth.
My parents shared not only an improbable love, said Obama famously in his 2004 Democratic Convention keynote, they shared an abiding faith in the possibilities of this nation. This concept of multicultural romance shaped his persona and his campaigns.
At the 2008 Democratic Convention in Denver, Obama leaped into the story in the very first sentence. Four years ago, he began, I stood before you and told you my story of the brief union between a young man from Kenya and a young woman from Kansas who werent well-off or well-known, but shared a belief that in America, their son could achieve whatever he put his mind to.
As Maraniss concedes, these two young people shared very close to nothing. In the college life of Barack Obama in 1961 and 1962, writes Maraniss, as recounted by his friends and acquaintances in Honolulu, there was no Ann; there was no baby.
Although Maraniss talked to many of Obama Sr.s friends, none of the credible ones ever so much as saw him with Obamas mother, Ann Dunham.
One Obama friend, a Cambodian named Kiri Tith, knew the senior Obama very well. He had also met Ann through a different channel. But he had no idea, writes Maraniss, that Ann knew Obama, let alone got hapai (pregnant) by him, married him, and had a son with him.
Only Hawaii Gov. Neil Abercrombie claims to have seen the pair together during the presumed courtship stage, but he is not close to credible.
Maybe Im the only one in the country, Abercrombie told the Los Angeles Times in December 2010, that could look you right in the eye right now and tell you, I was here when that baby was born. This was pure lie, no other word for it.
A few days later, Abercrombie clarified to Mark Niesse of the Associated Press that he didnt exactly see Obamas parents with their newborn son at the hospital, but that he remembers seeing Obama as a child with his parents at social events. Another lie.
Maraniss should have quoted Abercrombie with the stated qualifier that he has proved unreliable on all things Obama, but he did not. Abercrombie was too important. Without Abercrombie, there is no contemporary witness to any kind of relationship. Maraniss, however, knew enough not to quote Abercrombie on his claim to having seen the baby with his parents.
Despite his Herculean digging into the dung of Obamas life, Maraniss shovel comes up empty on the couples alleged February 1961 wedding. He footnotes his comments thusly: Marriage facts recorded in divorce records.
There is no doubt that both Ann Dunham and Obama claimed a wedding. It suited both their purposes, Obama to extend his visa and Dunham to legitimize her baby with a black husband.
As to the divorce, Dunham at the time was desperately trying to keep her future husband, Lolo Soetoro, in the country. The INS believed her to be married to Obama. Even if she were not married, a divorce would have been useful to clear the way for a marriage to Soetoro.
Like all other biographers of either Obama or his parents, Maraniss is totally silent on Dunhams whereabouts from the February marriage to the August birth. He adds one detail, however, that deepens the mystery.
According to the birth certificate and the newspaper announcements, the young family lived at 6085 Kalanianole Highway where Dunhams parents lived. Obama Sr. clarified to the INS that mother and baby lived there without him.
Maraniss definitively states that [Dunham] and Obama and the infant never lived [at 6085 Kalanianole]. There was no room. The senior Dunhams shared the house with the Pratt family. The Pratt daughter has no memory of the Dunhams daughter bringing an infant home.
And yes, finally, an Obama biographer admits what the blogosphere has known for the last four years: Within a month of the day Barry came home from the hospital, he and his mother were long gone from Honolulu, back on the mainland.
This period, Washington State revisited, Maraniss writes, is missing from the memoir the son would write decades later. In fact, as recently as Fathers Day 2012, Obama was claiming that his father left home when he was 2.
What Maraniss does not say is that he missed the Seattle hegira story himself in the 10,000-word Washington Post article he wrote on the eve of the 2008 election.
He was hardly unique. No one in the mainstream media wanted to blow the whistle on the fraudulent family fable that got Obama elected president.
The New Yorkers David Remnick chose to overlook it in his 2010 Obama bio. The New York Times Janny Scott overlooked it in her 2011 bio of Obamas mother. The Boston Globes Sally Jacobs overlooked it in her 2011 bio of Obamas father, and the Timess Jodi Kantor overlooked it in her 2012 book on the whole extended family.
Worse, conservative writer Dinesh DSouza chose not to report the fraud in his disingenuous best-seller, The Roots of Obamas Rage. As DSouza explains, Obama was his fathers son. Dunham served largely as the vehicle through which the absent Obama exercised his will on the young Obama, she being Obama Sr.s first convert to anti-colonialism.
DSouza should have known this was nonsense. Conservative writer Michael Patrick Leahy had broken the Seattle story as early as 2008 in his book, What Does Barack Believe. It was accepted knowledge in the conservative blogosphere by 2009.
What Maraniss has laid bare, perhaps without meaning to, is a journalistic scandal of historic proportions in which, alas, he himself has played a part.
It would be helpful to see photos of a pregnant Stanley Ann Dunham.
Oh Where oh where could they be?
Checked. It happens. Usually due to some disease process. See your doctor.
I mentioned that only because in one interview, Susan Blake used the words...she nursed the baby...
And suspicious me immmediately thought, must have been a case of spontaneous lactation.
Thanks for the info and ping.
I was going to reply to this post but it is not directed to anyone....darn!
LMAO, can’t stop LOL
I knew it would be worth the effort. I work in Cambridge a few blocks from all the commotion and couldn’t get into the office this morning so I played at the computer for a while.....glad I could give you a chuckle. :D
The part in bold in your post #11618 clarifies it, makes it clear what you have been saying.
you really should have known that if you had been paying attention. That information has been around for years, it's been referred to over and over. She said she was flying out to Boston that same day, according to Susan, and Susan also said, at that early interview, that she never saw her again.
I'll say it again and bold the entire phrase:
...there's no way she would have said she was going to visit her husband in Boston because he was at Harvard as no one knew then that he was ever going to be going to Harvard. Stanley Ann flew out that day to go to Boston, and what we should be asking, is...if she was really going to Boston, who did she know there?
Where do I send the money - and does it work more than once?