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David Bomford "birth certificate" removed from genealogy website
Bomford.net ^ | 8/3/09 | Website

Posted on 08/03/2009 9:54:54 PM PDT by FTJM

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To: shield
Is this what you were asking for?

Where are those comments from???
51 posted on 08/04/2009 12:56:34 AM PDT by GLDNGUN (PALIN/GINGRICH 2012 since 7/26/08)
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To: FTJM
I never said that the Washington Independent hacked anyone. You didn't read the thread, thoroughly look at the linked site, or understand my comments yet you commented on it as some internet expert. You can't be this daft.

OK, so to what "biased" site was I supposed to have been redirected while visiting the Bamford site? Which I did do, a number of times before it shut down, all without being redirected, much less to a "biased" site.

And, based on the Washington Independent link in your original post, the motivation to hack the site on their behalf by them or anyone else is minimal. So, you obviously got confused and jumped to an unwarranted conclusion.

52 posted on 08/04/2009 12:57:46 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: cynwoody
OK, so to what "biased" site was I supposed to have been redirected while visiting the Bamford site? Which I did do, a number of times before it shut down, all without being redirected, much less to a "biased" site.

And, based on the Washington Independent link in your original post, the motivation to hack the site on their behalf by them or anyone else is minimal. So, you obviously got confused and jumped to an unwarranted conclusion.

Yawn. I said the Washington Independent was a biased site which was linked to. The link to that site, which I included in the body of the OP of this thread, is fully functional. I did not say that the Washington Independent hacked the genealogy website.

Your second paragraph makes zero sense.

53 posted on 08/04/2009 1:05:48 AM PDT by FTJM
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To: FTJM
What I'm saying is, you didn't see what you said you saw. All you saw was a site going offline because of excessive bandwidth utilization. No big deal. Happens all the time when an obscure site with a cheap hosting deal suddenly becomes popular for some reason. The "biased site" thing, the only thing interesting here, is a total red herring.

Unless you can show bomford.net was hacked, you have nothing but a commonplace observation.

54 posted on 08/04/2009 1:15:24 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: cynwoody
What I'm saying is, you didn't see what you said you saw. All you saw was a site going offline because of excessive bandwidth utilization. No big deal. Happens all the time when an obscure site with a cheap hosting deal suddenly becomes popular for some reason. The "biased site" thing, the only thing interesting here, is a total red herring.

Unless you can show bomford.net was hacked, you have nothing but a commonplace observation.

Like I said, the site was modified by someone before it was shut down. You claim that the ISP managers made the modification, which makes no sense. You didn't read the thread or understand my comments. However, I said it was STRANGE, drew no further conclusion and asked a question. At this point, your blindingly obvious opinion means very little.

55 posted on 08/04/2009 1:24:43 AM PDT by FTJM
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To: FTJM
Like I said, the site was modified by someone before it was shut down. You claim that the ISP managers made the modification, which makes no sense.

I never said the ISP managers did anything but let their software work. When enough Freepers had downloaded that BC, the software said, "Tilt! Bandwidth Exceeeded!".

The next move is up to the domain owners, assuming they're remotely aware their family site is offline, much less why.

As for "biased" sites and all that, the burden of proof is on you. And having a site shut down by automatic software action doesn't help. You'll have to convince them (the Bomfords and their ISP) to assist in making your history-making case! If it's really true, their logs will be full of evidence.

56 posted on 08/04/2009 1:33:47 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: FTJM

God bless you, Mr. Bomford.

Please accept this apology, on behalf of America, for the disturbance.


57 posted on 08/04/2009 1:35:13 AM PDT by unspun (PRAY & WORK FOR FREEDOM - investigatingobama.blogspot.com)
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To: cynwoody
I never said the ISP managers did anything but let their software work. When enough Freepers had downloaded that BC, the software said, "Tilt! Bandwidth Exceeeded!".

The next move is up to the domain owners, assuming they're remotely aware their family site is offline, much less why.

As for "biased" sites and all that, the burden of proof is on you. And having a site shut down by automatic software action doesn't help. You'll have to convince them (the Bomfords and their ISP) to assist in making your history-making case! If it's really true, their logs will be full of evidence.

For clarity, you implied that the ISP managers made the modifications then clarified yourself, then you said that the ISP managers would not have contacted the domain (site) owners but now you say the domain owners might have known, even though they allegedly haven't changed the site in 2+ years. Wow. The site was modified before it was shut down. You have no idea who did it and keep changing your story.

There is no burden of proof on me regarding the Wash Ind site. I provided the link, yet you wouldn't even look at the entire site. You're batting a thousand buddy.

58 posted on 08/04/2009 1:46:49 AM PDT by FTJM
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To: GLDNGUN
The only copy I have immediately available is a certified copy from last year - in a safety deposit box, I have older copies that look even more similar to the alleged Kenyan certificate.

Obviously I have removed all identifying information from this scan.


59 posted on 08/04/2009 2:15:11 AM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: shield
“The Kenyan birth certificate is without question, 100% authentic.”
I hope this is true... I just had chills run from the back of my neck down my spine... goosebumps and all...
60 posted on 08/04/2009 2:31:39 AM PDT by Bikkuri
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To: FTJM

It appears that the australian document is a fake. Starting at post 1390, by PA Engineer, in this thread http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2307402/posts?q=1&;page=1351

his daughter found that the australian document will break up into layers in photoshop elements. the layers are latter shown in post 1444.

in other words, the DU deceive and lie machine is running at full speed.

Also, the washington independent is part of a group of “independent progressive bloggers and investigators” that form the center for independent media, who claim to be an “nonpartisan nonprofit organization”. of course, if you start reading their material, you can decide for yourself, how nonpartisan they are.


61 posted on 08/04/2009 4:54:53 AM PDT by backpacker_c
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To: cynwoody

Does this sound about right for the span of the company or was it under another corporate name before?

Copyright LEAD Technologies, Inc. 1991-2007

Not really important but it gives some indication of how long it has been around. And another clue in the possession chain for the document.


62 posted on 08/04/2009 5:33:25 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (The last time I looked, this is still Texas where I live.)
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To: Texas Fossil

has this been posted on any of these threads?

http://usurpador.blogcindario.com/


63 posted on 08/04/2009 8:36:26 AM PDT by KeatsforFirstDog
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To: Texas Fossil
Does this sound about right for the span of the company or was it under another corporate name before?

I think so. I remember looking at their product back in the Windows for Workgroups days.

64 posted on 08/04/2009 9:00:17 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: shield

wiki says “M M Shah primary school” not “M M Shaw” as alleged teacher.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_schools_in_Kenya

parsy.


65 posted on 08/04/2009 10:30:00 AM PDT by parsifal ("All great men come out of the middle classes" (Ralph Waldo Emerson))
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To: KeatsforFirstDog

I had not seen it, but possibly someone else had.


66 posted on 08/04/2009 10:57:24 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (The last time I looked, this is still Texas where I live.)
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To: backpacker_c
It appears that the australian document is a fake. Starting at post 1390, by PA Engineer, in this thread http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2307402/posts?q=1&;page=1351
his daughter found that the australian document will break up into layers in photoshop elements. the layers are latter shown in post 1444.
in other words, the DU deceive and lie machine is running at full speed.
Also, the washington independent is part of a group of “independent progressive bloggers and investigators” that form the center for independent media, who claim to be an “nonpartisan nonprofit organization”. of course, if you start reading their material, you can decide for yourself, how nonpartisan they are.

Yeah, there is some strange stuff going on and the Washington Independent is clearly biased left.

67 posted on 08/04/2009 12:25:33 PM PDT by FTJM
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To: Aria

Orly was in Tel Aviv 24 hours ago.


68 posted on 08/04/2009 12:32:05 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Nemo me impune lacessit The law will be followed, dammit!)
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To: mad_as_he$$

Oh that’s interestng. Who has more at stake than the Israelies?


69 posted on 08/04/2009 12:39:06 PM PDT by Aria ( "The US republic will endure until Congress discovers it can bribe the public with the people's $.")
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To: Aria

US


70 posted on 08/04/2009 12:44:06 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Nemo me impune lacessit The law will be followed, dammit!)
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To: mad_as_he$$

Yes, I thought about that after I posted. But the Israelies are facing potentially being wiped off the...we’d be more of a drip drip drip....boiling frog.

Yesterday I saw a guy in a Surburban trying to park his behemoth and he had an Obama sticker. Suicidal idiot!


71 posted on 08/04/2009 12:49:10 PM PDT by Aria ( "The US republic will endure until Congress discovers it can bribe the public with the people's $.")
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To: Aria

oops...being wiped off the MAP


72 posted on 08/04/2009 12:49:53 PM PDT by Aria ( "The US republic will endure until Congress discovers it can bribe the public with the people's $.")
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To: shield
That is interesting but worth exactly what we paid for it.
73 posted on 08/04/2009 4:42:39 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Nemo me impune lacessit The law will be followed, dammit!)
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To: Bikkuri

“The Kenyan birth certificate is without question, 100% authentic.”

I hope this is true... I just had chills run from the back of my neck down my spine... goosebumps and all...


Watergate will end up looking like a bad set of parking tickets if this is true.


74 posted on 08/04/2009 8:07:00 PM PDT by CommieCutter (http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/programs/ht/qt/3013_08.html)
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To: SatinDoll

On Orly’s website she said:
http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/blog1/?p=3616

“If Kenyan BC that I provided would not be genuine, Hillary would not be rushing to Kenya, would she?”


75 posted on 08/04/2009 8:12:10 PM PDT by Frantzie (Lou Dobbs - American Hero! Bill O'Reilly = Liar)
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To: FTJM

t appears that the australian document is a fake. Starting at post 1390, by PA Engineer, in this thread http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2307402/posts?q=1&;page=1351
his daughter found that the australian document will break up into layers in photoshop elements. the layers are latter shown in post 1444.
in other words, the DU deceive and lie machine is running at full speed.
Also, the washington independent is part of a group of “independent progressive bloggers and investigators” that form the center for independent media, who claim to be an “nonpartisan nonprofit organization”. of course, if you start reading their material, you can decide for yourself, how nonpartisan they are.

Yeah, there is some strange stuff going on and the Washington Independent is clearly biased left.


THANKS I HAD NO IDEA SOMEONE ALREADY BROKE DOWN THE AUSSIE VERSION! THANKS SO MUCH! I WAS BUMMED TODAY AND NOW TOMORROW I WILL BE PREMATURELY SKIPPING AROUND AND GLOATING TO MYSELF.


76 posted on 08/04/2009 8:12:46 PM PDT by CommieCutter (http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/programs/ht/qt/3013_08.html)
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To: Frantzie

“If Kenyan BC that I provided would not be genuine, Hillary would not be rushing to Kenya, would she?”


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHI6G5jO0to


77 posted on 08/04/2009 8:22:51 PM PDT by CommieCutter (http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/programs/ht/qt/3013_08.html)
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To: CommieCutter

Why did you send me to a half court shot on YouTube that has Kobe? It has nothing to do with Hillary, Kenya or the BC. Are you trolling?


78 posted on 08/04/2009 8:25:22 PM PDT by Frantzie (Lou Dobbs - American Hero! Bill O'Reilly = Liar)
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To: Frantzie
Orly shoots, she's fouled, she SCORES! Go find a real troll. The Troll Police.siren Pictures, Images and Photos
79 posted on 08/04/2009 8:33:27 PM PDT by CommieCutter (http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/programs/ht/qt/3013_08.html)
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To: Frantzie

I’ve got four years on ya.


80 posted on 08/04/2009 8:35:03 PM PDT by CommieCutter (http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/programs/ht/qt/3013_08.html)
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To: shield; SatinDoll
http://www.examiner.com/x-14129-Grand-Rapids-Ron-Paul-Examiner~y2009m8d3-Birthers-proven-right-Obamas-Kenyan-birth-certificate-acquired

Comment Section of article at the above link:

Carl says: “I can’t identify myself here because I’d lose my job. I’m a low level employee of the US State Department attached to the Overseas Service and I just finished a conference call with two lawyers in London and two journalists from Politico.com who all stated that they just left a late meeting at the London Foreign Office and they were assured that “The Kenyan birth certificate is without question, 100% authentic.” I’m not surprised.”

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kitau says: “I happen to be Kenyan. I was born 1 month before Obama at Mombasa medical center. I am a teacher here at the MM Shaw Primary School in Kenya. I compared my birth certificate to the one that has been put on by Taitz and mine is exactly the same. I even have the same registrar and format. The type is identical. I am by nature a skeptical person. I teach science here and challenge most things that cannot be proven. So I went to an official registrar today and pulled up the picture on the web. They magnified it and determined it to be authentic. There is even a plaque with Registrar Lavenders name on it as he was a Brit and was in charge of the Registrar office from 1959 until January of 1964. The reason the date on the certificate says republic of Kenya is that we were a republic when the “copy” of the original was ordered. I stress the word “copy.” My copy also has republic of Kenya.” August 3, 9:04 PM

81 posted on 08/04/2009 8:41:12 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: shield

Neither of these comments appear on the link’s site.


82 posted on 08/04/2009 9:25:23 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO Foreign Nationals as our President!!)
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To: SatinDoll

They were there yesterday...they were the second and third comment later when I went there they were much futher down. Other FReepers went there and they were there. I don’t know what happened to them.


83 posted on 08/04/2009 9:42:49 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: SatinDoll

I just looked all those comments are from today. None of the comments are there from yesterday. There were several FReepers commenting yesterday and their comments aren’t there now either. It is a good thing I grabbed them when I did.


84 posted on 08/04/2009 9:47:19 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: shield

OK. Thanks for trying. I’ll ask that site.

They may have taken them down because they were unverifiable. Texasdarlin banned “Carl” and “Kintau” for just that reason.


85 posted on 08/04/2009 9:47:33 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO Foreign Nationals as our President!!)
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To: SatinDoll

No...NONE of the comments are there from yesterday...I can’t find a place where you can go and look at yesterdays comments.


86 posted on 08/04/2009 9:50:05 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: SatinDoll

They were there yesterday. In the comment’s section.

It’s not too hard to post an anonymous comment with no verification.

But, it is interesting.


87 posted on 08/04/2009 9:53:09 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: shield; hoosiermama; SatinDoll

This is the source of the following comment you quoted - made Monday night - not sure what to make of it - when you read the last part it digresses into Kenyan pride, and so forth:
http://urbanlegends.about.com/b/2009/08/03/birther-wackiness-continues-with-release-of-obamas-kenyan-birth-certificate.htm

kitau says: “I happen to be Kenyan. I was born 1 month before Obama at Mombasa medical center. I am a teacher here at the MM Shaw Primary School in Kenya.
I compared my birth certificate to the one that has been put on by Taitz and mine is exactly the same. I even have the same registrar and format. The type is identical.
I am by nature a skeptical person. I teach science here and challenge most things that cannot be proven.
So I went to an official registrar today and pulled up the picture on the web. They magnified it and determined it to be authentic. There is even a plaque with Registrar Lavenders name on it as he was a Brit and was in charge of the Registrar office from 1959 until January of 1964.
The reason the date on the certificate says republic of Kenya is that we were a republic when the “copy” of the original was ordered.
I stress the word “copy.”
My copy also has republic of Kenya.
So what you say is true about Kenya not being a republic at the time of Obama’s birth, however it was a republic when the copy was ordered.
The birth certificate is genuine. I assure you it will be authenticated by a forensic auditor.
We are very proud Obama was born here.
We have a shrine for him and there are many people who remember his birth here as he had a white mother.
They are being interviewed now by one of your media outlets. Fortunately they even have pictures of his parents with him immediately after his birth at the Mombasa hospital with the hospital in the back ground. It will be a proud day for us when it is proven that he was born here and a Kenyan became the most powerful man in the world.
I encourage anyone to come here and visit.
I will be happy to take you and show you the pictures at the hospital myself as well as my document and many others that are identical to what Taitz posted.
God Bless.
Kitau”


88 posted on 08/05/2009 6:54:27 AM PDT by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country & the Tea Party! Take America Back! (Objective media? Try BIGOTS.))
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To: CommieCutter

Found out by a teenage girl....SWEET!


89 posted on 08/05/2009 8:47:57 AM PDT by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: SeattleBruce
May be irrelevant by now. Depending on how fast the court's official worked.
90 posted on 08/05/2009 8:51:37 AM PDT by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: hoosiermama

Are you following the court case on PACER - or anyone else here?


91 posted on 08/05/2009 9:52:39 AM PDT by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country & the Tea Party! Take America Back! (Objective media? Try BIGOTS.))
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To: SeattleBruce

Pacer takes too long to download on dial up, but various freepers have been good to send the documents our way....We’ve been on the “case” actually before it hit FR...... Where have you been?


92 posted on 08/05/2009 10:15:54 AM PDT by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: hoosiermama

We’ve been on the “case” actually before it hit FR...... Where have you been?
++++++++++++++

I’m been following Taitz actions with Keyes since January or December or whenever that started...


93 posted on 08/05/2009 10:31:37 AM PDT by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country & the Tea Party! Take America Back! (Objective media? Try BIGOTS.))
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