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O'Reilly, Ruddy Spar over birth certificate (video)
Newsmax ^ | 8-3-09 | Newsmax

Posted on 08/03/2009 10:27:33 PM PDT by SideoutFred

Newsmax CEO and Editor Christopher Ruddy appeared on Bill O'Reilly's Fox News show with nationally syndicated radio show host Mike Gallagher. O'Reilly and Ruddy sparred over whether Obama should release his birth certification.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: arrogant; article2section1; backbencher; barackobama; birth; birthcertificate; bloviatingwindbag; blowhard; certificate; certifigate; democrats; obama; obamanoncitizenissue; oreilly; ruddy
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Let's go to the video. Have to agree with O'Reilly on this.
1 posted on 08/03/2009 10:27:33 PM PDT by SideoutFred
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To: SideoutFred

Bill O’Reilly is a POS. He and Jerry Rivers need to be fired from Fox and go back to doing Inside Edition and other scandal shows.


2 posted on 08/03/2009 10:29:10 PM PDT by Frantzie (Lou Dobbs - American Hero! Bill O'Reilly = Liar)
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To: Frantzie

Well, since he’s the number one rated show in America for news, I have a feeling that won’t be happening.

Now, on to his point....this nonsense continues to make the GOP and conservatives look bad. Even Michelle Malkin this morning on Mike Gallagher’s show said she’s not running with this story (i.e. she knows it’s a dud) and thinks it’s taking conservatives off the prize.

Ann Coulter, Michelle Malkin, Bill O’Reilly, Hot Air Pundit, American Spectator, American Thinker....sure looks to me like an awful lot of true conservatives apparently are missing the boat....or is it the birthers missing the boat?


3 posted on 08/03/2009 10:33:50 PM PDT by SideoutFred (B.O. Stinks...it really does)
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To: Frantzie

It seem as BOR gets older, he doesn’t know what he wants to be. Must be getting a little soft in the head.


4 posted on 08/03/2009 10:34:01 PM PDT by MarkeyD (OBAMA. Chains we can believe in!)
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To: SideoutFred

Not me. I care. Let’s see it.


5 posted on 08/03/2009 10:35:53 PM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: SideoutFred

You know what, I don’t care about the GOP.

Getting republicans elected MEANS NOTHING.

What prize do you speak of?

The Constitution > The GOP.

Furthermore, this movement was started by democrats, Hillary supporters to be specific.


6 posted on 08/03/2009 10:36:22 PM PDT by chris37
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To: chris37
Furthermore, this movement was started by democrats, Hillary supporters to be specific.

That's exactly what I emailed to BOR tonight.

7 posted on 08/03/2009 10:39:58 PM PDT by ducdriver (judica me, Deus, et discerne causam meam de gente non sancta. (Ps. 42))
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To: SideoutFred

BOR is looking out for .....................Himself.
BOR, don’t make that phone call! You are married.


8 posted on 08/03/2009 10:43:41 PM PDT by Mark (Don't argue with my posts. I typed while under sniper fire..)
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To: SideoutFred

THe O says no voters care ?!

Hmmmm. If the voters don’t care why is it on all the news outlets, in the WH, on the floor of the senate, etc.

O doesn’t want the voters to care but we do anyway.


9 posted on 08/03/2009 10:44:04 PM PDT by lucias_clay (Impeach Odinga's Cousin)
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To: SideoutFred

I quite O’Reilly after he had a chance to put Kerry on the spot but instead just cowed down to him. This was back in the 2004 election.

I knew then he was just a panderer, out for ratings. Then that sexual harresment stuff with those phone calls. That shows there he is a Joke.

O’Reilly is no one to waste time watching..


10 posted on 08/03/2009 10:46:22 PM PDT by Diggity
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To: SideoutFred

What is wrong with trust but verify? You know the media and press went nuts on McLame, and McLame produced everything.

If there is nothing here, then why will Obama just spend $10 and a stamp to end it instead of $1,000,000.00 in Attorney fees?

If it some sort of tactic, then Obama has broken his pledge of openness, transparency and uniting the country.

This is a very simple issue, and can be put to sleep quickly. However, Obama continues to refuse to do anything. Cowards like Bill O. is too chicken $hit to do anything.

The reason why Bill will not cover it is because of the, “Tire incident” in Georgia. This is why Bill is hyper sensitive to race issues. He is afraid the tire issue would bring down his show.


11 posted on 08/03/2009 10:46:37 PM PDT by Sprite518
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To: Frantzie

Look, I understand how strongly you guys feel, but honestly, it looks kinda crazy. It really does. Sorry.


12 posted on 08/03/2009 10:47:28 PM PDT by Hildy
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To: SideoutFred

The fact that you say you agree with Bill O’Reilly is very telling. I hardly agree with O’Reilly on anything. This piece convinces me even more that Obama has something to hide. Otherwise, why not produce a bona fide birth certificate?

That’s all.


13 posted on 08/03/2009 10:47:30 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: SideoutFred

Quinn and Rose wanna see the BC. Everybody wants to see the BC. Just show it already and end this. I can’t understand what the problem is. If it’s his Daddy black out the daddy name. Anything he didn’t want to show maybe like religion or parentage, he could black out. What’s the problem?


14 posted on 08/03/2009 10:47:39 PM PDT by ReneeLynn (Socialism, it*s the new black.)
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To: Saundra Duffy

Is it also very telling that I agree with Malkin, Coulter, et al on this as well? :)


15 posted on 08/03/2009 10:49:50 PM PDT by SideoutFred (B.O. Stinks...it really does)
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To: ReneeLynn; Saundra Duffy; potlatch; devolve

16 posted on 08/03/2009 10:50:02 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Kenya)
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To: SideoutFred

The American public thinks they know more about Obama than they do.


17 posted on 08/03/2009 10:50:13 PM PDT by RobbyS (ECCE homo)
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To: SideoutFred
Too funny, he wouldn't agree to Farah's requirements to come on the show then tries to set up 2 other guests. Ruddy missed his chance to explain how the announcements were generated, O'Reilly is clueless on this issue.

Hey Bill: PEOPLE CARE YOU IDIOT!

18 posted on 08/03/2009 10:51:56 PM PDT by FTJM
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To: ReneeLynn

Obama has written two books to tell us his story. It may well be that the BC would show that he has made up stuff.


19 posted on 08/03/2009 10:52:20 PM PDT by RobbyS (ECCE homo)
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To: SideoutFred
Gee! Bill OReilly says there are newspaper announcements!

Wow!

( sarc)

20 posted on 08/03/2009 10:52:26 PM PDT by wintertime (People are not stupid! Good ideas win!)
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To: chris37

The prize I speak of is POWER. Power to appoint Supreme Court Justices. Power to make laws. Power to wipe out terrorists. Power to push through conservative ideas and an agenda.

Without power, we are nothing. Without winning elections, we might as well bend over.

I’m dealing with reality, while birthers are dealing with a pipe dream which will continue erode any chance of getting power back.


21 posted on 08/03/2009 10:54:56 PM PDT by SideoutFred (B.O. Stinks...it really does)
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To: SideoutFred
An honorable man would be pleased and proud to promptly provide **all** needed documentation to completely verify his natural born status.

Obama is not doing it. What does that say about his honor?

Also...It does matter what tyrants around the world think of the character of our nation's president. Ask New Yorkers about that. They will tell you it matters.

22 posted on 08/03/2009 10:57:51 PM PDT by wintertime (People are not stupid! Good ideas win!)
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To: RobbyS

Someone get the news flash to Barry...we already know you make stuff up.

All people want to know is whether he was born in Hawaii. The rest of the stuff could be blacked out. I still do not see his problem with showing it. If he’s Hawaii born, why hold out on showing the thing? He makes himself more suspicious by not showing it.


23 posted on 08/03/2009 11:03:02 PM PDT by ReneeLynn (Socialism, it*s the new black.)
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To: SideoutFred
BOR is a coward and an idiot for not seeking the truth that is likely putting America in grave danger, and the Constitution in danger of obsolescence.

He and his elitist ilk drank at the chimeric trough of post-racialism disguised as abject Socialism, if not Communism and profited from it.

Now O'Reilly is part of the cover-up.

It makes me sick.

Ones birth certificate should be presented and examined before anyone is allowed to run for any political office in the United States.

If you don't believe that you fundamentally misunderstand the reason for the existence of nations and the rights of voters within them.

24 posted on 08/03/2009 11:03:46 PM PDT by TheThinker
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To: SideoutFred

Good. You can join the chorus protecting Obama’s fraudulence then


25 posted on 08/03/2009 11:10:51 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: SideoutFred

And you really think the gop has got what it takes to win elections anymore?Can you explain what happened in the last election please?


26 posted on 08/03/2009 11:13:07 PM PDT by imahawk (Life is tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: TheThinker
O'Gasbag has always been an enemy to Conservatives and other pro-American people.

Listen to that worthless, nasty POS get nailed to the wall by Mark Levin:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1-ZgouoJso

27 posted on 08/03/2009 11:15:42 PM PDT by Prole (Please pray for the families of Chris and Channon. May God always watch over them.)
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To: paul51

Yep I’m with you! There is some reason why Obama has not released that birth certificate!


28 posted on 08/03/2009 11:19:45 PM PDT by classified
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To: SideoutFred
Is it also very telling that I agree with Malkin, Coulter, et al on this as well?

The point I get out of all this birth certificate kerfuffle is that nObama and his minions in the drive-by media will turn this back on the "kooky" Conservatives in about 12 months to make sure "the One" keeps his power base. And don't kid yourself. The DBM still holds a lot of sway in this country, especially with the older generation!

If you had seen the clip of Michelle Malkin from the Phew this morning, you would see that there is enough EASILY DOCUMENTABLE evidence to show nObama as the anti-American, neo-socialist phony that he is.

I had a discussion with a friend who is sort of an Obama supporter the other day. She couldn't understand why everyone was up in arms about HR3200. Took me one well-aimed point to make her understand. I explained the clause (Section 103, I think it was) that says current policies can be continued, but no new policies may be written by the private companies. Meaning of course that should she change her job, she and her family would be FORCED into the government "public option" since her new company would be unable to add them to whatever health insurance coverage they currently held.

So, if you want to keep on the birth certificate deal, by all means go ahead. Just remember who your enemy is and the playbook that they use.

29 posted on 08/03/2009 11:20:46 PM PDT by ssaftler (OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: SideoutFred

Bill, if you’re lurking, let me tell you straight up - I lost all respect for you today. As God is my witness, I will never watch your show again. They own you, don’t they Bill? The effing Constitution is not important to you is, is it? You move to CNN, and we’ll take Lou Dobbs. What a useful idiot.


30 posted on 08/03/2009 11:22:11 PM PDT by Hoosier-Daddy ("It does no good to be a super power if you have to worry what the neighbors think." BuffaloJack)
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To: SideoutFred

B O’R is far from being a conservative.


31 posted on 08/03/2009 11:26:26 PM PDT by Blue Highway
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To: SideoutFred

When they had that power, they did nothing but squander it.

They pushed through no ideas, no agenda. Aside from Scalia and Thomas, their nominees to SCOTUS are RINOS.

I’m not gonna support a team because its the only game in town, and there’s no place else to go.

Screw that. If they represent my ideas and philosophies, then fine, but they don’t

What does represent my ideas and philosophies is the constitution. It always has, and that’s why I support it.

Go ahead and chase your power. You won’t get it back. The GOP is done for. They got in bed with the devil, and there they shall stay.


32 posted on 08/03/2009 11:28:22 PM PDT by chris37
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To: SideoutFred

BOR is a conservative? The guys at American Thinker have been all over this, and certainly demanding Obama cough up his BC.


33 posted on 08/03/2009 11:30:43 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: SideoutFred

34 posted on 08/03/2009 11:38:38 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die.)
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To: Frantzie

BOR is so fakey-fakey pseudo inflammatory. he’s a wimp

Thank you Chris Ruddy for standing up to this stuffed shirt


35 posted on 08/03/2009 11:39:17 PM PDT by MissDairyGoodnessVT ("Economy is the method by which we prepare today to afford the improvements of tomorrow"C.Coolidge)
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To: SideoutFred

Using your logic - Sarah Palin is making us look “bad.” The Left will attack things that threaten them. They don’t attack John McCain cause he is a joke.

They are going to use Alinksy’s key tactic of “ridicule.” I am glad to see some of us are waking up and fighting back. The Obama “socialism” posters with O as the joker is very creepy and very effective. Who ever did that did an excellent job.

The left uses Alinsky’s ridicule and we cannot back down. Anyone bashing “birthers” is my enemy. Either say nothing or support the Constitution.

The talkers I like are not bash us Constitutionalists - Rush, Savage, Hannity (saying nothing), Beck, Dobbs, Levin - they are not cowards especially Savage and Dobbs.

Boortz, Ingraham and Hugh Hewitt are so incredibly lame. They suck. Thier shows are so bad and boring. They are probably terrified about the Fairness Doctrine that they are getting on their knees for Obama. O’Reilly is a joke.

Resist or you are a serf. King George sad eh Framers made British-American serfs look “bad.”


36 posted on 08/03/2009 11:51:11 PM PDT by Frantzie (Lou Dobbs - American Hero! Bill O'Reilly = Liar)
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To: SideoutFred

Obama could embarrass me by simply releasing his long form birth certificate.

Will he?

I doubt it.


37 posted on 08/03/2009 11:54:10 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: ssaftler

How about we focus on the healthcare scandal and the cars for taxpayer dollars and the birth certificate and not publishing a national security strategy for the country?


38 posted on 08/04/2009 12:00:53 AM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: SideoutFred

Malkin, Coulter, et al are making tactical decisions designed to keep them around if this doesn’t pan out. What can they do, anyway? It’s not like the lefties are going to fork over the records ‘cause Malkin says to.

They win nothing by going out on a limb.

I’m a birther agnostic...but I want the pressure kept up on President Obama to release his records, not just the LFBC, but passports, education, etc.

The idea that the issue should be dropped because it looks silly or undignified...I don’t buy it.

Democrats release old DUI info right before an election. A major network goes to bat for the left with faked documents to hammer a sitting President. The Iraq war was a plot to get Haliburton rich. Governor Palin gets smeared and hounded with bogus ethics complaints.

I don’t see the virtue in playing nice while the other guy uses every trick he can to bury your freedoms.

The old, dignified Bob Dole, John McCain brand of “play nice, wait your turn, don’t fret while the country goes socialist, ‘cause it will slow down a little when we are in charge” Republicanism won’t work anymore. Republicans in power don’t reverse creeping socialism, they just put the brakes on a little.

Let the birthers dig as much as they want. I’ll start making fun of birthers when Obama releases all those records.


39 posted on 08/04/2009 12:02:43 AM PDT by M1911A1
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To: SideoutFred

Have to agree NOT with O’Reilly on this.


40 posted on 08/04/2009 12:07:33 AM PDT by Red Steel
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To: PhilDragoo

good one. can I copy it?


41 posted on 08/04/2009 12:38:12 AM PDT by bushpilot1
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To: Blue Highway
B O’R is far from being a conservative.

Why do we kid ourselves as conservatives thinking
that we have a voice and a network who is on the conservatives side.

My husband who worked for broadcast national news was right
when he told me “the networks will do and say anything to make you watch for the advertisers”

It's all about money and we as conservatives are played on Fox news too.

Bor is the worst. He has always been hard to watch .
It just seems to get worse tho.

I'm so tired of non news and total failure to report “true”
news that I just watch classic tv etc.
This society is so clueless.

42 posted on 08/04/2009 12:44:54 AM PDT by freedommom
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To: freedommom; All; Spunky; ~Kim4VRWC's~; 1035rep; 2ndDivisionVet; 4woodenboats; 5Madman2; ...

After repeatedly saying he had seen the real birth certificate and that any claims to the contrary were bogus, did nobody notice that Monday in his argument with his guest O’Reilly blurted that “if I wanted to find out about Obama’s birth I could do it in two minutes” negating all his former claims of having already done so and having already investigated it.

A bad liar forgets his lies and O’Reilly is a bad liar and has become an apologist gasbag for Obama and his administration.

What a POS!.


43 posted on 08/04/2009 12:59:15 AM PDT by FARS ( Be happy, Be well)
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To: SideoutFred
O'Reilly invited him on (after dropping Farah, it seems) but unfortunately, as too often; O'Reilly could not stay out of 'Guest Ruddy's time. Very annoying and it was clear; that O'Reilly did not want to hear anything about the BC issue; nor did he care; and he said as much.

O'Reilly brings much to the cause; and that is good; and do think, there will be time; that the truth, heretofore 'outed', will have to be acknowledged. Perhaps, O'Reilly can throw in a mea culpa for his ignorance; but not holding my breath.

44 posted on 08/04/2009 1:01:50 AM PDT by cricket ('Don't bow for me . . Obama ' (America'sorry' President))
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To: SideoutFred

Ann Coulter, Michelle Malkin, Bill O’Reilly, Hot Air Pundit, American Spectator, American Thinker....sure looks to me like an awful lot of true conservatives apparently are missing the boat....or is it the birthers missing the boat?


Its not so much they will not cover the issue....they are marginalizing and mocking those who are merely asking for the “birth certificate”

I feel bad for Coulter and Malkin (esp Coulter)...who stand to lose a lot...they make their money from selling their books....calling your audience “kooks” does not bode well for sales

Some though are not dropping the issue....Rusty Humphries practically called out Glenn Beck at the end of his show (Rusty’s) with Rusty yelling “I’m gonna keep calling for it”(birth Cert.)


45 posted on 08/04/2009 1:06:58 AM PDT by UCFRoadWarrior (Know the difference between "conservative" and "republican")
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To: bushpilot1
I make everything for use in the fight.

I put my name on it so there can be no charge of "anonymous attacks".

I am proud to oppose DICK, Doper Islamo Commie Kenyan.

His failure is America's success.

And as is clearer with each day, his mentor Saul Alinsky urged personal attacks--

--and dedicated Reville for Radicals to Lucifer, who "won for himself a kingdom"--

--so let there be no whining from the Left about "demonic attacks"--

As Harry Truman said, "I don't give them hell--I tell the truth about them, and they think it's hell.

46 posted on 08/04/2009 1:07:29 AM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Kenya)
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To: FARS
Good for you to see that inconsistency.

Yes, the Great Phinneas T. Blowhard claimed he saw Obama's "birth certificate" last year.

Yet he now says, "If I wanted to. . ."

Well, Bill Bloviator, WHICH is it?

Are you lying now, were you lying then, or are you not a chronic and habitual LIAR!

47 posted on 08/04/2009 1:10:23 AM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Kenya)
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To: Hildy
Look, I understand how strongly you guys feel, but honestly, it looks kinda crazy. It really does. Sorry.

that is why we need to focus only on the disclosure aspect of this issue and not get carried away by theories about what Obama is hiding.

48 posted on 08/04/2009 1:21:16 AM PDT by Always Right (Obama: more arrogant than Bill Clinton, more naive than Jimmy Carter, and more liberal than LBJ.)
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To: FARS

Good catch.


49 posted on 08/04/2009 1:23:02 AM PDT by 1035rep
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To: PhilDragoo

ok ok..I would like to put it as my profile pic on my tagged site with your permisssion.


50 posted on 08/04/2009 1:30:52 AM PDT by bushpilot1
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