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Obama Birth Certificate Issue Causing Needless Distractions
News Max ^ | August 4, 2009 | Pamela Geller

Posted on 08/04/2009 3:25:23 PM PDT by RobinMasters

On Aug. 2 there came to light a birth certificate showing that Barack Obama was born in Coast General Hospital in Mombasa, Kenya in 1961. It was published far and wide, but was quickly shown to be a forgery: It says it was issued by the Republic of Kenya on Feb. 17, 1964, before there was a Republic of Kenya, and when Kenya was still a British Dominion.

Who would have an interest in publishing such an obvious forgery at this time? How did the Obama birth certificate question, so widely ridiculed by both the left and the right, become a national issue?

First, a little history. It all started very innocently. Well over a year ago, rumors began to swirl about Obama’s country of origin. In response, left wing operatives over at the Daily Kos posted a Certification of Live Birth (COLB). Almost immediately, even to the layman’s eye, it was obvious that the Kos COLB had been altered.

When a brouhaha ensued in the blogosphere, the blogger, Jay McKinnon, owned up. The Israel Insider site said on July 3, 2008 that McKinnon “implicated himself in the production of palpably fake Hawaii birth certificate images similar to the one endorsed as genuine by the Barack Obama campaign, and appearing on the same Daily Kos blog entry where the supposedly authentic document appears.”

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: afterbirthers; allahpundit; certifigate; charlesjohnson; hillary; hotair; lgf; pumas

1 posted on 08/04/2009 3:25:23 PM PDT by RobinMasters
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To: RobinMasters

I don’t see the distraction. People are standing up to their congressmen and participating in tea parties and other political activism.


2 posted on 08/04/2009 3:28:17 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: RobinMasters
It was published far and wide, but was quickly shown to be a forgery:

Is that so?

3 posted on 08/04/2009 3:28:17 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (The revolution IS being televised.)
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To: RobinMasters

Dunno but look at his polls. A lot who say they do not believe the birthers have that sinking feeling it is true. Attack Attack Attack. The lame ass Republicans sure don’t.


4 posted on 08/04/2009 3:28:48 PM PDT by screaminsunshine (!!)
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To: RobinMasters
"Obama Birth Certificate Issue Causing Needless Distractions"

That damn Constitution keeps getting in the way......

5 posted on 08/04/2009 3:29:07 PM PDT by NoGrayZone (Where's The Birth Certificate)
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To: RobinMasters

Pssst... Obama... if you don’t come clean now, they only get worse from here on out.

The next one may include information you REALLY don’t want spread around.


6 posted on 08/04/2009 3:29:57 PM PDT by Safrguns
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To: RobinMasters

“Who would have an interest in publishing such an obvious forgery at this time?”

Maybe because it’s not such an obvious forgery? Ooh, it says ‘Republic of Kenya’! How obvious can you get? Maybe it’s too obvious, Pamela? Maybe because they called themselves a Republic when it was OBVIOUS that’s what they’d be? Hmmmmm?

We’ll see.


7 posted on 08/04/2009 3:31:34 PM PDT by perchprism
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To: screaminsunshine

yes, the gop silence is speaking volumes to me.


8 posted on 08/04/2009 3:32:43 PM PDT by henry_reardon
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To: RobinMasters

People like O’Reilly blather on about how this whole issue stupid and counterproductive because it makes conservatives look like loons, and that’s exactly what Obama wants.

On the other hand, I think this “distraction” is exactly what Obama does NOT want. Especially while he’s trying to salvage his signature issue of healthcare.

As O’Bloviator likes to say: “What say you”?


9 posted on 08/04/2009 3:33:22 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: NoGrayZone

The problem is I think this whole issue maybe a trap used to discredit zero’s foe.

I think people can do a lot more damage to dems talking about socialized medicine and capnkill.


10 posted on 08/04/2009 3:34:11 PM PDT by Perdogg (Sarah Palin-Jim DeMint 2012 - Liz Cheney for Sec of State - Duncan Hunter SecDef)
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To: RobinMasters

Uh, sweetheart . . . That document called “The Constitution” just so happens to be “the law of the land”

If eligibility doesn’t matter in that document, then what does? If we can ignore something as fundamental as that, then what else should we also ignore . . . the Bill of Rights?

By analogy, suppose the authenticated BC said that Obama was, say, only 30 yrs old in 2008? Would that matter, or is that something else that’s just dismissed as a “distraction” in your little mind?


11 posted on 08/04/2009 3:35:44 PM PDT by A_Former_Democrat
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To: henry_reardon
You are so right about the silence from the gop. They want their constituents to defend the Constitution, fight their battles, and then they show up at election time and pretend to be heros!!!
12 posted on 08/04/2009 3:36:21 PM PDT by parthian shot (The Republicans are on a roll, unfortunately it's downhill)
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To: RobinMasters

Nice article. Her political conclusions are completely wrong, of course.

As long as Obama fails top clear this matter up conclusively, his support will continue to evaporate until he can stand on the steps of the Lincoln Monument and scream out his soul and on one will listen, much less care.

In the meantime, I am counting the so-called “Republican” leaders who have failed to step up to the plate. The list is growing.

ex animo
davidfarrar


13 posted on 08/04/2009 3:36:47 PM PDT by DavidFarrar (davidfarrar)
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To: RobinMasters
O is the person causing the problem 24/7.Just produce the document and Americans will STFU.How simple could it be?We don't trust Obama at all because of his "ACTIONS" over this issue.
14 posted on 08/04/2009 3:37:19 PM PDT by taxtruth (END THE FED AND OBAMA)
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To: RobinMasters

Why is Secretary of State Clinton in Kenya tonight?


15 posted on 08/04/2009 3:37:41 PM PDT by ncfool (Obama's Health care is Like Cash for Clunkers! Dead on Arrival.)
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To: Perdogg
I think people can do a lot more damage to dems talking about socialized medicine and capnkill.

Go ahead, then.
16 posted on 08/04/2009 3:39:32 PM PDT by ComputerGuy (Williams/Sowell 2012 -or- Sowell/Williams 2012)
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This from the :

http://www.antimullah.com/

Monday, August 03, 2009
STILL UNVERIFIED UPDATE ON KENYAN BIRTH CERTIFICATE VALIDITY

Before reading the “affidavit” comment text below please take note that Hillary Clinton is scheduled to take what appears to be a surprise visit to Kenya today - August 3rd!

She departed Andrews AirForce Base for Nairobi, Kenya and has nothing scheduled for August 4th.

Is she rushing off to do damage control and buy the existing photos for Oba-Hussein now that the Kenyan BC has surfaced or indulging her own curiosity? Or to threaten or bribe Kitau and others into silence?

Remember that during her campaign, a lawyer who supported her for President had announced that two certified copies of the Kenyan Birth Certificate had been brought out of Kenya and were going to made available to the lawyer or Hillary campaign - but nothing came of it.

STATE DEPT. APPOINTMENT CALENDER FOR AUG 03 click here - coincidence?

COMMENT ON THE KENYAN BIRTH CERTIFICATE COPY

kenyan

I happen to be Kenyan. I was born 1 month before Obama at Mombasa medical center. I am a teacher here at the MM Shaw Primary School in Kenya.

I compared my birth certificate to the one that has been put on by Taitz and mine is exactly the same. I even have the same registrar and format. The type is identical.

I am by nature a skeptical person. I teach science here and challenge most things that cannot be proven.

So I went to an official registrar today and pulled up the picture on the web. They magnified it and determined it to be authentic. There is even a plaque with Registrar Lavenders name on it as he was a Brit and was in charge of the Registrar office from 1959 until January of 1964.

The reason the date on the certificate says republic of Kenya is that we were a republic when the “copy” of the original was ordered.

I stress the word “copy.”

My copy also has republic of Kenya.

So what you say is true about Kenya not being a republic at the time of Obama’s birth, however it was a republic when the copy was ordered.

The birth certificate is genuine. I assure you it will be authenticated by a forensic auditor.

We are very proud Obama was born here.

We have a shrine for him and there are many people who remember his birth here as he had a white mother.

They are being interviewed now by one of your media outlets.

Fortunately they even have pictures of his parents with him immediately after his birth at the Mombasa hospital with the hospital in the back ground.

It will be a proud day for us when it is proven that he was born here and a Kenyan became the most powerful man in the world.

I encourage anyone to come here and visit.

I will be happy to take you and show you the pictures at the hospital myself as well as my document and many others that are identical to what Taitz posted.

God Bless.

Kitau

MEANWHILE FROM LONDON

Carl says: “I can’t identify myself here because I’d lose my job.

I’m a low level employee of the US State Department attached to the Overseas Service and I just finished a conference call with two lawyers in London and two journalists from Politico.com who all stated that they just left a late meeting at the London Foreign Office and they were assured that “The Kenyan birth certificate is without question, 100% authentic.”

I’m not surprised.”


17 posted on 08/04/2009 3:39:47 PM PDT by ncfool (Obama's Health care is Like Cash for Clunkers! Dead on Arrival.)
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To: RobinMasters
IT'S NUTS!
IT'S A DISTRACTION!
THERE ARE MORE IMPORTANT THINGS TO FOCUS ON!
IT'S RACIST!

Anything but focusing on the facts.

18 posted on 08/04/2009 3:41:18 PM PDT by FTJM
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To: RobinMasters
What is it that the democrats always say?

"It is the seriousness of the allegations"....

19 posted on 08/04/2009 3:41:28 PM PDT by usmcobra (Your chances of dying in bed are reduced by getting out of it, but most people still die in bed)
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To: All

It sure would be great if someone could find a bonafide Kenyan Birth Certificate that was issued by the “Republic of Kenya” before December 1964.

That would discredit their “not a Republic” argument.

Just sayin’...


20 posted on 08/04/2009 3:42:51 PM PDT by OCMike
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To: RobinMasters

An incongruent essay.

Perhaps it was her price of admission to Staff, Newsmax.


21 posted on 08/04/2009 3:45:13 PM PDT by bvw
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To: ncfool

Why is Secretary of State Clinton in Kenya tonight?


She’s on a tour of seven African nations that was planned months ago. She’s addressing the US-sub-Saharan Africa Trade and Economic Cooperation Forum in Nairobi then she goes to South Africa, Angola, the Democratic Republic of Congo, Nigeria, Liberia and the Cape Verde Islands.


22 posted on 08/04/2009 3:47:55 PM PDT by jamese777
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To: RobinMasters

I never heard about it being found to be a forgery..they must have printed that in Chinese paper..As for the distraction it would be very simple to just turn the real one over and be done with it..I really don’t care about the darn birth certificate because I am more than sure he should not be a president of anythng not even the dump collectors union since he is a Muslim Commie he should be sent back to Kenya..


23 posted on 08/04/2009 3:47:56 PM PDT by PLD
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To: RobinMasters

The legitimacy of a Presidents required Constitutional credentials is more than fair game at any time a significant mystery remains deliberately undisclosed by any sitting President...which is the case now. The legitimacy of a sitting President is CENTRAL to the legitimacy of any government....such a situation is hardly a distraction. This time it is of even more importance internationally than the impeachment cases of Nixon and Clinton. It is not a distraction. A deliberate landmine was planted by the DNC with the candidacy of Obama in the first place...that landmine is now going off.

The character, honesty of a sitting President is now under challenge again, with higher risks to the country than before. Do not ALinsky and disciples worship chaos?


24 posted on 08/04/2009 3:51:21 PM PDT by givemELL (Does Taiwan Meet the Criteria to Qualify as an "Overseas Territory of the United States"? by Richar)
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To: OCMike

It sure would be great if someone could find a bonafide Kenyan Birth Certificate that was issued by the “Republic of Kenya” before December 1964.

That would discredit their “not a Republic” argument.

Just sayin’.


Excellent point

If this Kenyan CoB is a fraud....no one has put forth a similar Kenyan document from the same time period. Very telling....

And the after-birthers would not hesitate to post such....


25 posted on 08/04/2009 3:52:43 PM PDT by UCFRoadWarrior (Know the difference between "conservative" and "republican")
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To: ncfool

She is?

Probably negotiating “aid” in return for the “favor” of making a certain document disappear?

LOL

I don’t know what it is Barry is hiding on that Long Form Birth Certificate but it really must be something, or he must really think it is something, to play this game this long.


26 posted on 08/04/2009 3:53:15 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: ComputerGuy
I think people can do a lot more damage to dems talking about socialized medicine and capnkill. Go ahead, then.

Can't walk and chew gum at the same time

27 posted on 08/04/2009 3:55:47 PM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: RobinMasters

The only people who are calling this issue a “distraction” are either Obama supporters, folks who can’t multi-task, folks who simply don’t give a rats patootie about protecting the Constitution, or folks who just don’t understand the situation.

By calling it a “distraction” they hope to minimize the importance of the situation.


28 posted on 08/04/2009 3:56:04 PM PDT by CaribouCrossing
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To: Safrguns

“... they only get worse from here on out.”

One of my former bosses, a Marine Colonel, used to say:

“Bad news only gets worse with age.”


29 posted on 08/04/2009 3:56:56 PM PDT by Joe Marine 76 ("Veritas Vincit" - Truth Will Conquer!)
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To: RobinMasters

Show the bc.


30 posted on 08/04/2009 3:57:15 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: DavidFarrar

Knock knock.

Who’s there?

Kenya.

Kenya who?

Kenya show me the birth certificate?


31 posted on 08/04/2009 3:57:52 PM PDT by Memphis Moe
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To: F15Eagle

I agree.


32 posted on 08/04/2009 3:57:58 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: the invisib1e hand
re: is that so?

What a hoot. Once again the MSM just says what they would like the news to be, not what it actually is!

The big difference in the sides on this is that the ‘birthers’ are willing, anxious, to provide their documentation for close scrutiny to determine authenticity. The other side publishes pictures of the document on which their case rests and spares no effort in avoiding having the matter settled.

Truth is I wanted neither Obama or McCain. I say we just do it all over again! Primaries and all! I daresay I think the results would be quite different. Bring it on!

33 posted on 08/04/2009 3:59:01 PM PDT by jwparkerjr (God Bless America!)
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To: RobinMasters
Obama Birth Certificate Issue Causing Needless Distractions

signed, David Axelrod

34 posted on 08/04/2009 4:01:02 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Just say NO to national socialism!)
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To: RobinMasters

So the thugs got to Atlas Shrugs now too?


35 posted on 08/04/2009 4:02:30 PM PDT by silverleaf (If you can't be a good example, at least don't be a horrible lesson)
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To: ncfool

sure, threaten Kitau- he was the only Kenyan born in Mombasa, Republic of Kenya, in 1961

sarc


36 posted on 08/04/2009 4:04:29 PM PDT by silverleaf (If you can't be a good example, at least don't be a horrible lesson)
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To: RobinMasters
***BIRTHERS "CHASING THEIR TAILS" ALERT***


37 posted on 08/04/2009 4:04:47 PM PDT by VaBthang4 (He Who Watches over Israel will Neither Slumber nor Sleep.)
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To: RobinMasters

It’s forcing the 0bamabots to expend political capital. That’s a good thing.


38 posted on 08/04/2009 4:06:25 PM PDT by Mogollon (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. -- Thomas Jefferson)
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To: ncfool

“Why is Secretary of State Clinton in Kenya tonight?”

I bet she brought a suitcase of cash to do some dealin’ with the locals.


39 posted on 08/04/2009 4:09:20 PM PDT by freebird5850 (O-Bomba is not the Messia. Jesus was a carpenter and could build a cabinet!)
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To: RobinMasters
It says it was issued by the Republic of Kenya on Feb. 17, 1964, before there was a Republic of Kenya, and when Kenya was still a British Dominion.

Pam, that's what Wikipedia says. But if you study the primary documents, you will find, as several Freeper investigators have found, that Jomo Kenyatta declared it a Republic a full year earlier than Wikipedia claims.

40 posted on 08/04/2009 4:10:26 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: paul51
I think people can do a lot more damage to dems talking about socialized medicine and capnkill. Go ahead, then.

We can 'multitask'.

41 posted on 08/04/2009 4:17:27 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannolis. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: perchprism
Maybe because they called themselves a Republic when it was OBVIOUS that’s what they’d be?

It sounds technical, but was a big deal to the British and Kenyans that at the time Kenya was a "dominion." By mid-century "dominion" had come to mean a self-governing state whose head of state was the British monarch, that is they were still part of the monarchy even though self-governing. India pointedly rejected dominion status on independence. The major dominions were Canada, Australia, New Zealand and South Africa after Indian independence, although South Africa later dropped the status and Canada no longer uses the term while remaining part of the monarchy. Although Australia was a "dominion" in this sense, it called itself a "Commonwealth."

A dominion has a resident head of state in the form of a governor or governor-general appointed by the monarch when the British monarch is not resident. A republic, in contrast, has a president as head of state.

It was therefore a very big deal when Kenya became a republic on December 12, 1964. Kenya dropped dominion status and became a republic because it terminated it's status as part of the British monarchy and fully repatriated it's sovereignty. They would not have been imprecise about their status.

42 posted on 08/04/2009 4:20:46 PM PDT by colorado tanker (I'd like to trade in this clunker - President Obama.)
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To: Perdogg
Perhaps you have been asleep the last two weeks or you're too focused on the BC issue yourself, to have noticed that the health care vote was stopped in the house and the whole country is up in arms.

If that's not enough attention, I'll write e-mails for you to forward. Please post a list of what you've been doing to fight obamacare and I'll add a few suggestions in my spare time, when I'm not pursuing the truth about what could be the largest fraud in the history of the US.

43 posted on 08/04/2009 4:22:17 PM PDT by nufsed (Release the birth certificate, passport, and school records.)
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To: CaribouCrossing

If you are going to say I am an 0bama supporter or stupid at least have the balls to do it directly.


44 posted on 08/04/2009 4:37:26 PM PDT by Perdogg (Sarah Palin-Jim DeMint 2012 - Liz Cheney for Sec of State - Duncan Hunter SecDef)
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To: screaminsunshine

...”The lame ass Republicans sure don’t.”

They must be hiding in their closets or on forever junkets to find retirement property. The word is PURGE.....them all.


45 posted on 08/04/2009 4:56:19 PM PDT by mcshot (My President will be honest, transparent, open and have a legitimate birth certificate.)
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To: mcshot

I know. They are sure a quiet bunch. They seem cowed. They need some viagra or something.


46 posted on 08/04/2009 5:02:13 PM PDT by screaminsunshine (!!)
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To: ncfool
Here's what I get when clicking on your link.

"A communication error occurred: The Web Server may be down, too busy, or experiencing other problems preventing it from responding to requests. You may wish to try again at a later time. "

I'll try again later when I'm on the home computer.

47 posted on 08/04/2009 5:16:45 PM PDT by ASA Vet (Everyone signing up after Nov 28, 1997 is a newbie.)
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To: Perdogg

“If you are going to say I am an 0bama supporter or stupid at least have the balls to do it directly.”

IF I was going to say you’re an Obama supporter or stupid, I’d have posted a comment to you. Don’t know you from Adam to make that judgement....yet.


48 posted on 08/04/2009 5:20:07 PM PDT by CaribouCrossing
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To: RobinMasters

Ignore the title and read the article. Very good.


49 posted on 08/04/2009 5:40:42 PM PDT by Eagles6 ( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck. (Let them eat arugula!))
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