Skip to comments.Face of Defense: Soldier to be First Female Head of Drill Sergeant School
Posted on 08/04/2009 5:31:16 PM PDT by SandRat
FORT JACKSON, S.C., Aug. 4, 2009 Army Command Sgt. Maj. Teresa King of the 369th Adjutant General Battalion has been selected the next commandant of the U.S. Army Drill Sergeant School.
God help us all!
I wonder what her PT scores are when compared to the male standard?
More doors are opening in the Army, says King. Its like Ive always been saying: If you hold people to standards and enforce them and know there are no impossibilities, all things are possible unto you.
Judging by that quote I guess she always took the male PT test rather than take the artificial one administered to females.
Every 28 days, things are going to be a real bitch.
Increasingly, I think more women in the military is a mistake.
When I went through tank and drag ass hill (Ft. Jackson), there were less than 400 women of the rank of E-7 or higher in the whole Army, and Ft. Jackson was glad to tell you that.
When I went through Army basic training, the drill sergeants were predominantly Hispanic. They smoked like chimneys and carried 30 pound pot bellies. I don't think they would have done too well in a PT test. PT is for the recruits, the grunts who do the heavy lifting.
yeah...well...color me skeptical....
Ft. Jackson Basic, Aug./Sept. 1968
I went through basic before the Army had Drill Sergeants, but when I went through Drill Sergeant school at Ft Knox, Ky, PT was a huge part of the program. It continued that way for the three years I was on Drill status.
When I went through basic, even though I was an athlete that had easily maxed the Marine Corps PT test four years before in high school and finished army basic with a 493 on the army 500 point PT test, I was amazed at the fitness of some of my white Drill Sergeants.
On runs I saw some of them grab packs from trainees and still run circles around us, besides being a man is partly what you went through to get where you are, among soldiers it has to be a weird experience to be dealing with leadership that got there through affirmative action.
I'm having a problem with that post, for instance Drill Sergeants all being 30 pounds overweight (smoking isn't a problem when you are young and fit) and not running the recruits into the ground as they led them on their runs and exercises. I hope you will elaborate a little for us.
In 1966, corporals and buck sergeants did the running with inductees. The staff and platoon sergeants smoked and just showed up at the beginning and end. Don't know how they got from A to B. The staff and platoon sergeants were lifers; they weren't young.
When I was 35 I was smoking three packs a day but I was still passing my PT tests with plenty to spare, many times I saw guys smoke during morning runs, smoking used to be pretty common. One heavy smoker used to routinely smoke and run backwards during morning runs while goofing off.
My real point was the difference in PT standards for this female sergeant, she has never in her career been required to perform at the level of the males that she was competing against.
Hey everyone, take a look at this video on foxnews of CSM King:
and tell me...WHY IN THIS DAY AND AGE IS THE COMMANDANT OF ARMY DRILL SERGEANT SCHOOL NOT WEARING A COMBAT PATCH? It’s shameful when the army is so PC that someone who ducks out of deployments for over 6 years can somehow be rewarded with what is essentially the most important position in the Army. Please get the word out with posts on every website you can...she does not deserve to lead future generations of warriors.
This reminds me of the scene in Indiana Jones where the ninja shows off his warrior skills to Harrison Ford in the hopes it would scare him off. Harrison Ford takes out his gun and shoots him, thus ending the fight. Lesson learned: brain always beats brawn.
If you look at every war in the last century, the brute strength of our forces were never decisive. What has been decisive has been our ability to innovate in technology, to be strategic thinkers, and to lead and manage a flexible military. On a tactical level, sure you want strong people in the right place at the right time, but she's not in a job where brute strength is necessary so why is this even an argument? The folks who argue that brawn is “so important” are the ones who usually don't have the IQ and education to bring a gun to a knifefight.
Changing a standard to purposely bring in people that are foreign to the world of fighting and physical aggression even in civilian life so that we can replace men with a version that is smaller, weaker, less fit and more prone to injury and that is limited in what they can ever accomplish in training because of that weakness, is insane and only a leftist controlled post 1960s military could be forced to do it.
Brain does not always beat brawn and only an idiot would think that, our men in Iraq have been using knives and tomahawks in some of their kills, in urban combat and intimate situations with an urban population and arrests and control issues, upper body strength becomes very important.
The ability to move heavy things quickly by hand is an important part of the military.
Do you want to be surrounded by Marines that are too weak and ineffectual to even handle themselves in common bar fights?
Your willingness to trade American lives and lost battles because you think that in the end our technology will prevail is asinine.
As far as bringing a gun to a knife fight that is idiotic as well when speaking of close combat, there is a reason why the bayonet is still carried and used in our current wars.
If women don’t make a difference then let’s make the Marine Corps 100% female because we would not be losing anything right?
That link doesn't have it. Good points though.
My favorite DI in Basic at Ft Lost-in-the-Woods, Missouri in early 1970 was Sgt Tovar. I would gape and wonder how we could be running in formation with combat boots and fatigues and he would be right beside us running and chewing us out at full volume for mile after mile. But he did it running backwards — all the better to rant cheerfully at each platoon member personally.
Mile upon mile, and over half the time running backwards.
I really wouldn’t have a problem with a woman being rated high like she was,
if the standards were the same across the board. No different standards for men & women.
If the standards were the same and there was no loss of quality then I would accept 8 year old boys and 90 year old grandmothers and blind guys and people with no arms.
Isn't it amazing....I still remember my DI at lost in the woods, MO in 1961 nearly 50 years ago....SFC Nipper....who told me as I left for baseball practice from the rifle range daily at about 1400 hrs...."Cruit" if you bo lo the rifle range I'll have your a$$.. Fortunately being a country boy I had plenty of practice with guns and fired expert. Funny how those memories stay with you after all these years.
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