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Kenyan document ignites firestorm over authenticity (Let's Discuss Bomford HERE)
WND ^ | 8/4/09 | Staff

Posted on 08/04/2009 7:33:27 PM PDT by pissant

A document unveiled by a California attorney in her quest to determine President Obama's place of birth has been condemned as a forgery by critics who deride as nonsense the challenges that have been raised to the president based on the U.S. Constitution's demand that the Oval Office occupant be a "natural born" citizen.

But those on the other side, who would like to see the original documentation of Obama's birth place revealed, say there are factors that indicate the Kenyan birth document could be real.

WND reported when the document was submitted to a California court by California attorney Orly Taitz, who has managed several of the high-profile cases challenging Obama's eligibility to be president.

Then yesterday, Sen. Harry Reid, D-Nev., raised the dispute to the floor of that august body, protesting in a speech added to the Congressional Record that the dispute was not worth one minute of time.

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: allahpundit; article2section1; barackobama; bho44; birthcertificate; birthers; bomford; certifigate; charlesjohnson; colb; hillary; hotair; larrysinclairslover; lgf; naturalborn; obama; obamanoncitizenissue; orly; orlytaitz; pumas; taitz
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For starters, the folds certainly do not match.

1 posted on 08/04/2009 7:33:29 PM PDT by pissant
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To: Electric Graffiti; PA Engineer; conservativegramma; Calpernia

A Place to discuss Bomford vs Obama


2 posted on 08/04/2009 7:34:55 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant; devolve; ntnychik; PhilDragoo; MeekOneGOP; All
He was hatched, on this date in 1961!


3 posted on 08/04/2009 7:36:08 PM PDT by potlatch ( There is no education in the second kick of a mule.)
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To: pissant

Why would the folds have to match?!!?


4 posted on 08/04/2009 7:37:44 PM PDT by SW6906 (6 things you can't have too much of: sex, money, firewood, horsepower, guns and ammunition.)
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To: SW6906

They don’t. But if you are going to use an online doc to create a replica, then you would need to digitally remove the folds of the “original”.


5 posted on 08/04/2009 7:40:32 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: SW6906

Why would the folds have to match?!!?


That’s what I say. ?? I thought the whole point was, that it could be an entirely NEW document DRAFTED from a similar or same FORMAT.

So it would not matter, create a new one from a template, give it some custom folds for authenticity and viola!


6 posted on 08/04/2009 7:42:27 PM PDT by CommieCutter (http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/programs/ht/qt/3013_08.html)
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To: pissant

Bomford AKA Bamford likely to be a scam artist.


7 posted on 08/04/2009 7:43:08 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: pissant

Gotcha. Thanks.


8 posted on 08/04/2009 7:43:15 PM PDT by SW6906 (6 things you can't have too much of: sex, money, firewood, horsepower, guns and ammunition.)
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To: pissant
WND was able to obtain other birth certificates from Kenya for purposes of comparison, and the form of the documents appear to be identical.
9 posted on 08/04/2009 7:44:03 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: SW6906

Ugh.


10 posted on 08/04/2009 7:44:44 PM PDT by Danae (- Conservative does not equal Republican. Conservative does not compromise.)
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To: Red Steel

Like the guy on ebay trying to sell a Kenyan BC


11 posted on 08/04/2009 7:44:45 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: potlatch

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LOL!

The Family Plot sickens!


12 posted on 08/04/2009 7:44:46 PM PDT by devolve (- - .....mean-spiritedanddangerous.com..... - -)
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The certificate is a blatant forgery. It is dated 17 February 1964 and was supposedly issued by the "Republic of Kenya".

No such country. The Republic of Kenya was not proclaimed until December 1964.

13 posted on 08/04/2009 7:44:48 PM PDT by John Locke
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To: pissant

You might want to tell WND that...

“No one at WND – not me, not Jerome Corsi, not any columnists, not any reporters – have defended the authenticity of the Kenyan birth certificate. No one here has made a judgment that it is real. What we did was report a fact – that California attorney Orly Taitz has filed a motion in federal court to determine its authenticity. “

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=105902


14 posted on 08/04/2009 7:45:48 PM PDT by Adammon
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To: John Locke

There is much dispute about that. Yesterday we found numerous references to the Republic of Kenya prior to their official declaration date.


15 posted on 08/04/2009 7:45:50 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant
if you are going to use an online doc to create a replica, then you would need to digitally remove the folds of the “original”.

Someone at the DUmp posted a blank BC form based upon the Kenya BC. Did that one have folds?
16 posted on 08/04/2009 7:45:56 PM PDT by GLDNGUN (PALIN/GINGRICH 2012 since 7/26/08)
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To: SW6906

If one IMAGE of the unfolded document were used to make another, I’d be very difficult to change the fold locations and phases.


17 posted on 08/04/2009 7:45:58 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Big Ears + Big Spending --> BigEarMarx, the man behind TOTUS)
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To: pissant

Did you look at Orly’s site lately? WOW!

http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/blog1/

There were two things that who knows are true sources or if they are playing games with Orly but wow:

State Dept employee and a Kenyan who says he was born around the same time at the same hospital and they match. Registrat Leavanders is real????? Anyone read this yet?

I wonder if Orly has the real deal and the left is in panic mode?????

Scroll on the comments on this: Posted a couple of them
David Bomford “birth certificate” removed from genealogy website
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2307694/posts

Carl says: “I can’t identify myself here because I’d lose my job. I’m a low level employee of the US State Department attached to the Overseas Service and I just finished a conference call with two lawyers in London and two journalists from Politico.com who all stated that they just left a late meeting at the London Foreign Office and they were assured that “The Kenyan birth certificate is without question, 100% authentic.” I’m not surprised.”

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kitau says: “I happen to be Kenyan. I was born 1 month before Obama at Mombasa medical center. I am a teacher here at the MM Shaw Primary School in Kenya. I compared my birth certificate to the one that has been put on by Taitz and mine is exactly the same. I even have the same registrar and format. The type is identical. I am by nature a skeptical person. I teach science here and challenge most things that cannot be proven. So I went to an official registrar today and pulled up the picture on the web. They magnified it and determined it to be authentic. There is even a plaque with Registrar Lavenders name on it as he was a Brit and was in charge of the Registrar office from 1959 until January of 1964. The reason the date on the certificate says republic of Kenya is that we were a republic when the “copy” of the original was ordered. I stress the word “copy.” My copy also has republic of Kenya.” August 3, 9:04 PM

33 posted on Tuesday, August 04, 2009 1:25:46 AM by shield (A wise man’s heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool’s heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)


18 posted on 08/04/2009 7:46:47 PM PDT by Frantzie (Lou Dobbs - American Hero! Bill O'Reilly = Liar)
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To: Adammon

That was written before this piece. And they are not claiming it to be valid now. They are reporting the controversy over it, or did you bother to read the piece?


19 posted on 08/04/2009 7:47:00 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Frantzie

And WND says they have legit Kenyan BC’s and they match the form. Hmmmmm. Still, the entire episode may be fake. But it will be us, not the idiots that came up with the fraud Bomford who ferret it out.


20 posted on 08/04/2009 7:48:45 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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