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I don't know what to think. I've been hearing a lot of chatter about a vaccine nobody needs coming down the pike and it being mandatory, I'm not taking it, but then I never take the flu shot anyway, just sharing the information here for those interested ...
1 posted on 08/05/2009 6:55:47 AM PDT by Scythian
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To: Scythian

Isn’t this how the eco-terrorists developed the Shiva virus that was to be dispersed as a vaccine in Rainbow Six by Tom Clancy?


2 posted on 08/05/2009 7:00:19 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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PING


3 posted on 08/05/2009 8:30:13 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: Scythian

To lift a line from a comedian I hear over the radio (I don’t know his name):

“If hooking a monkey’s brain up to a car battery will help save people suffering from AIDS in 10 years, I have two things to say: ‘Red is positive and black is negative.’”

The NappyOne


4 posted on 08/05/2009 8:37:14 AM PDT by NappyOne
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To: Scythian
As a rule of thumb, it's best to dismiss any anti-vaccine hysteria coming from blogs.

As for not getting any flu shots, I support your right to make that choice.
6 posted on 08/05/2009 8:47:00 AM PDT by mysterio
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To: Scythian

There’s so much wrong with vaccine production, quality control, “testing,” and adverse event reporting (i.e.reactions) that it would take all day for me to comment.

To research:
a)read the vaccine package inserts

b) read the CDC Pink Book, which is the guide to vaccines for physicians

and if you want to be even more disturbed, read through

c) The Simpsonwood Conference transcripts (private conference of vaccine industry scientists/manufacturers discussing the effect of thimerosol, among other issues). These were released when sued for under the FoIA.


7 posted on 08/05/2009 8:47:01 AM PDT by Zechariah_8_13 ("If we give the bureaucrats our children, we may as well give them everything else." - J. G. Machen)
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To: Scythian

Diseased African monkeys, you shouldn’t make vaccines out of them and you certainly shouldn’t elect them to public office.


8 posted on 08/05/2009 8:56:04 AM PDT by Hacklehead (Liberalism is the art of taking what works, breaking it, and then blaming conservatives.)
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I’m pinging Freeper Smokin’ Joe swine flu ping list to a new article .


18 posted on 08/05/2009 10:31:11 AM PDT by DvdMom (Freeper Smokin' Joe does the freeper Avian / H1N1 Ping List)
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To: Scythian

Ummmm, if the monkey (tissues) don’t get the disease, they don’t produce antibodies to the disease.

Hello?


19 posted on 08/05/2009 10:55:30 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 196 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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You might want to read the actual patent.

http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/5911998/description.html

This is a cell line derived from a pair of African Green Monkey kidneys.

They don’t infect monkeys and then use their kidneys.

Jeez.

By the way, in Clancy’s novel Executive Decisions, Green Monkey kidneys were used to cultivate the Ebola virus. Maybe the author of this got mixed up.


20 posted on 08/05/2009 10:57:03 AM PDT by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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Laboratory cell cultures of mammalian cells are usually grown in a small bottle with a nutrient solution. The cell samples taken from the original donor monkeys happened years ago. The cell lines have been replicated from samples removed from earlier bottles. They aren't killing more monkeys to get the kidney tissue.
23 posted on 08/05/2009 11:58:37 AM PDT by Myrddin
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If the vaccine is shown to prevent the flu I’ll be first in line to get the shot. I’ll have my wife and kids right behind me.

I don’t understand the fearmongering about vaccines. I think people are just have phobias about injections. If it were an oral vaccine in pill form there would probably be very little resistance. If it were a shot of saline people would want to know the shelf life, the concentration, where the water came from, and what kind of metal is used in the needle.

People are just freaked out about injecting anything directly into the bloodstream.


26 posted on 08/05/2009 12:04:44 PM PDT by toast
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Diseased African Monkeys Used to Make Swine Flu Vaccines

Talk about cheap labor.

32 posted on 08/05/2009 12:16:26 PM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys: Can't fly, can't ski, can't drive, can't skipper a boat, but they know what's best.)
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To: Scythian

This is the way vaccines are created. A vaccine is a weakened form of the virus which is intended to trigger your immune system to create antibodies against that specific virus.


34 posted on 08/05/2009 12:18:20 PM PDT by 6ppc (It's torch and pitchfork time)
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To: Scythian

Another misleading headline! I was wondering why the diseased monkeys decided to quit making the vaccine. Did they go on strike?


39 posted on 08/05/2009 12:35:18 PM PDT by Richard Kimball (We're all criminals. They just haven't figured out what some of us have done yet.)
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To: Scythian

Population Control

Don't take the shots!

It's population control.

Vaccine May Be More Dangerous Than Swine Flu

Fast-tracked Swine Flu Vaccine under Fire:Toxic adjuvants in flu vaccines

Squalene: The Swine Flu Vaccine’s Dirty Little Secret Exposed

Adverse Effects of Adjuvants in Vaccines

The poison cocktail of Squalene, Mercury, Polysorbate 80, and Green Monkey DNA will bring lifelong health problems, some very serious like MS, damaging the Central Nervous System, Endrocrine system, hormonal and reproductive functioning. If the person's immune system has already been weakened by previous vaccines, flu shots, or mercury, all the worse.

They have been saying they want population control because of the alleged global warming. Now they are testing it out. Man-made, genetically-altered virus. Dangerous experimental vaccine packed with neurotoxins.

40 posted on 08/05/2009 12:48:55 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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In order to make a viral vaccine, you have to first grow the specific virus in some live animal tissue in which that virus will replicate. (Viruses do not replicate outside appropriate host cells.) So the fact that this company is using monkey kidneys to grow the virus isn't shocking nor alarming in and of itself, nor does it necessarily implicate the resultant vaccine - which is made from either killing or weakening the virus after extracting it from the monkey tissue culture medium - as dangerous to use on humans. We simply wouldn't know until it is tested on a sufficient sample of human test subjects and controls.

What is concerning is the talk of government making the vaccine mandatory on the entire population. Obviously, if this swine flu strain proves to act a "typical" influenza virus, with about the same small rate of severe complications and deaths unsually associated with influenza, it would be a prudent idea not to mandate it for everyone, but to recommend it (assuming it is proven safe) only to certain types of individuals. The idea of government mandating it on everyone under these circumstances should raise a good deal of protest and resistance.

43 posted on 08/05/2009 7:53:23 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: Scythian

This sounds like a crock!


45 posted on 08/05/2009 8:25:32 PM PDT by Ditter
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PING!


46 posted on 08/05/2009 8:26:31 PM PDT by Larousse2 ("Educate and inform the whole mass of the people... They are the only sure reliance for the preserva)
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PING!


60 posted on 08/05/2009 9:08:57 PM PDT by Larousse2 ("Educate and inform the whole mass of the people... They are the only sure reliance for the preserva)
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