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Biology 101: Dissecting Today's Textbooks (teach your kids how to spot Evo-religion in textbooks!)
Answers Magazine ^ | Roger Patterson

Posted on 08/05/2009 11:15:25 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts

Today’s top-selling biology textbooks present evolution as the only scientific view of the history of life. Often these textbooks use faulty or deceptive evidences to support evolutionary ideas. Fortunately, students can easily equip themselves with free materials that dissect textbooks and reveal the truth...

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1 posted on 08/05/2009 11:15:25 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: metmom; DaveLoneRanger; editor-surveyor; betty boop; Alamo-Girl; MrB; GourmetDan; Fichori; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 08/05/2009 11:17:00 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

“Teach you kids”? Teach they to axe permission!


3 posted on 08/05/2009 11:18:38 AM PDT by humblegunner (My Kung Fu is ten times power!)
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To: humblegunner

To the ‘cretin-nation’ teachin so much shizzle.


4 posted on 08/05/2009 11:21:45 AM PDT by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: xcamel

Tru dat! Know whut I’m sayin’?


5 posted on 08/05/2009 11:24:00 AM PDT by humblegunner (My Kung Fu is ten times power!)
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To: xcamel

Cretin-nation? Did the Evos finally find a plot to call their own???


6 posted on 08/05/2009 11:25:00 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

Had your typo fixed, huh?


7 posted on 08/05/2009 11:31:19 AM PDT by humblegunner (My Kung Fu is ten times power!)
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To: humblegunner

Yes, thanks for pointing it out.


8 posted on 08/05/2009 11:38:21 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

How DARE they not include Creationism in a biology text!!!


9 posted on 08/05/2009 11:47:20 AM PDT by ElectricStrawberry (27th Infantry Regiment....cut in half during the Clinton years...)
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To: GodGunsGuts
This guy is freakin' hilarious!!!

Two of the textbooks do mention that some individuals believe in special creation, but the idea is not discussed as a scientific alternative to naturalistic evolution.

Uhhhhh......you bet Creationism is not to be discussed as a SCIENTIFIC alternative to ANYTHING in a science class. Hoe DARE they not teach Creationism as science!!!!

10 posted on 08/05/2009 11:54:33 AM PDT by ElectricStrawberry (27th Infantry Regiment....cut in half during the Clinton years...)
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To: ElectricStrawberry; GodGunsGuts

So of the three most common biology textbooks, two of them mention Special Creation.
Can anyone think of another “theory” believed by a comparative number of scientists that is mentioned in a public school textbook? Far from “censoring” Creationists, schools actually bend over backwards to accomodate them.


11 posted on 08/05/2009 12:02:28 PM PDT by goodusername
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To: GodGunsGuts

Too few parents know or really care what is in their children’s text books.
I always asked my kids to sit down with me and tell me what they were being taught and then we looked at their books.

I know that seems a difficult concept to those who show up to bray and honk in the their usual ignorance, but without anything useful to say.............


12 posted on 08/05/2009 12:14:44 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: ElectricStrawberry

I hate to break it to you ES, but SPECIAL CREATION is the ONLY ALTERNATIVE to unintelligent evolution.


13 posted on 08/05/2009 12:16:58 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

A lot of good teaching the ToE is doing public school kids.....

Study: US Students Lagging In Biosciences
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2253511/posts


14 posted on 08/05/2009 12:22:26 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom

Why study hard? After all, random processes plus survival have made you into everything you are, and everything you’ll ever be.


15 posted on 08/05/2009 12:36:02 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: count-your-change

Ever notice how the more science learns, the angrier and angrier the Evos get?


16 posted on 08/05/2009 12:38:49 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: goodusername
That's what you call bending over backwards to accommodate that main rival to unintelligent evolution? LOL!
17 posted on 08/05/2009 12:41:01 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: metmom
Study: US Students Lagging In Biosciences

Are you ready to compare them to the students in countries that don't teach ToE?

18 posted on 08/05/2009 12:43:38 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: GodGunsGuts

“That’s what you call bending over backwards to accommodate that main rival to unintelligent evolution? LOL!”

—Sure is. As I mentioned, is there any other “theory” getting such special treatment?
And why do you say “unintelligent”? The theory of evolution makes no stand as to whether intelligence was involved or not.


19 posted on 08/05/2009 12:48:59 PM PDT by goodusername
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To: GodGunsGuts
It long ago ceased being a question of teaching but rather of the exercise of power. Anyone that can control what is taught in the mandatory attendance public schools has a very good chance of shaping the culture for that generation.

What can be said of the motives of those Temple of Darwinism devotees following you around with their blather.

“Ever notice how the more science learns, the angrier and angrier the Evos get?”

Precisely. The anger is all that's left after reason departs.

20 posted on 08/05/2009 1:06:24 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: tacticalogic

“Study: US Students Lagging In Biosciences
Are you ready to compare them to the students in countries that don’t teach ToE?”

I think a direct correlation may exist between the number of students in the US forced to consider theology as science and the relative failure to maintain excellence in biological sciences compared to other countries. Metmom proves the point that creationism in schools cause our kids to fail.


21 posted on 08/05/2009 1:18:21 PM PDT by FormerRep
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To: GodGunsGuts
All three textbooks present evolution as the only scientific view of the history of life on earth. The assumed authority is summarized in the statement "most scientists." Those two words are used to persuade students that evolution happened and that science is just trying to understand the details.

So, the texts state that most scientists think that evolution has happened. What should they write instead? Perhaps: the overwhelming majority of scientist think that evolution has happened?.

22 posted on 08/05/2009 1:18:47 PM PDT by bezelbub
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To: goodusername
“And why do you say “unintelligent”? The theory of evolution makes no stand as to whether intelligence was involved or not.

Really? Darwinism claims evolution produced intelligence.

Try PhsyOrg.com, The evolution of intelligence, and why our brains have shrunk, November 22nd, 2006.

23 posted on 08/05/2009 1:27:54 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: count-your-change

“Really? Darwinism claims evolution produced intelligence.”

—Yes, Darwinism does say that intelligence evolved, but that doesn’t contradict the idea that the universe and its laws came from an intelligent source. In fact, every poll shows that the number of theistic evolutionists greatly outnumber the atheistic evolutionists. Many of the leading Darwinist scientists are also Christians.


24 posted on 08/05/2009 2:08:57 PM PDT by goodusername
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To: FormerRep; metmom; GodGunsGuts; valkyry1; Fichori; CottShop; Ethan Clive Osgoode; betty boop; ...
I think a direct correlation may exist between the number of students in the US forced to consider theology as science and the relative failure to maintain excellence in biological sciences compared to other countries.

LOL!!!!!!

So blame your own liberal godless failures on the ones that are shut out of the educational process?

BRILLIANT! Now that's rich, because everyone knows liberals bend over backwards to stomp God out of science class, via lawsuits when necessary, THEN when they have obvious egg on their faces for failing, well, of course they're going to blame-shift! Soooooo predictable!

Metmom proves the point that creationism in schools cause our kids to fail.

Uh-uh...ohhhhhhhhh no you don't. There simply aren't any facts to support your assinine "correlation", moreover the science texts and curriculum are more than proof enough that you indeed got your way that you demanded, i.e. no God, intelligence and design allowed!!!!! So now YOU have to sleep in your bed YOU made, NOT US!

Several problems for you here, other than the more obvious one: you've been hopelessly brainwashed to the point that you've simply abandoned the critical reasoning process, drilled out of you by failed godless public screwels...

1. BEFORE the evo-cultist godless liberals hi-jacked education, you know, once upon a time when God wasn't forced out via political correctness...???? Science flourished just fine. In fact, better than ever.

2. Home-schooled and private schooled kids whose parents don't have multiple God hang-ups also perform better than their evo-mind-numbed peers.

Boy....you guys just parrot the same thoroughly debunked foolishness with no regard to how many times it's been thoroughly and utterly destroyed, with absolutely zero shame or awareness of how foolish this makes you people look!

If there are any direct correlations, it's that liberals that have hi-jacked the education system are failing and ever projecting their failures, while clueless at how little reasoning capabilites they've learned!

Utterly fascinating classic liberal excuses/projections/whack-job thinking!

25 posted on 08/05/2009 2:23:16 PM PDT by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for g!ood men to do nothing---Edmund Burke)
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To: tacticalogic; metmom; GodGunsGuts

Study: US Students Lagging In Biosciences

“Are you ready to compare them to the students in countries that don’t teach ToE?”

Sure, and while we’re at it, why not compare them to the students that learn evolution AND ID/creationism in this country?


26 posted on 08/05/2009 2:29:01 PM PDT by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for g!ood men to do nothing---Edmund Burke)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Why study hard? After all, random processes plus survival have made you into everything you are, and everything you’ll ever be.


Exactly....just rely on the gubmit to take money from some one else, or make up some rules like those firemen had to face with sotomayor...they can’t be promoted because they passed and they were white.

Liberal evo-loons are just weird!


27 posted on 08/05/2009 2:31:42 PM PDT by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for g!ood men to do nothing---Edmund Burke)
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To: metmom
A lot of good teaching the ToE is doing public school kids.....

But hey, as long as their liberal sensibilities aren't infringed upon and they have to hear about ***GASP*** God, well then, failure is all good!

And meanwhile, the likes of algore are making a spectacle of them, right under their noses! While they whine about God and keeping their godless science somehow *pure*...science itself has suffered under their watch as never before.

They'll babble some nonesense now about the Church and enlightenment but people KNOW better now; or at least have the capability of knowing better now, but it's just that liberals simply don't care.

As I said, it ain't about the science!

28 posted on 08/05/2009 2:40:43 PM PDT by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for g!ood men to do nothing---Edmund Burke)
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To: goodusername
Far from “censoring” Creationists, schools actually bend over backwards to accomodate them.

LOL!!!! Thanks for the laugh again!

When you type such nonsense do you think people actually buy it? On FR of all places?

29 posted on 08/05/2009 2:43:06 PM PDT by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for g!ood men to do nothing---Edmund Burke)
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To: GodGunsGuts; metmom

“Fortunately, students can easily equip themselves with free materials that dissect textbooks and reveal the truth”...

This is probably true for most students and most schools but unfortunately there are still holes and gaps.

Not all kids have access to information outtside of the school and not all schools will simply “allow” let alone provide *certain* alternatives and/or resources.

That’s just how liberals are.

I recall one suggestion of compromise was to make students aware of alternatives to the liberal cult and that was shot down and a big no-no...after all how could this be “allowed”...and the cult thrive? :(


30 posted on 08/05/2009 2:48:34 PM PDT by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for g!ood men to do nothing---Edmund Burke)
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To: tpanther
Sure, and while we’re at it, why not compare them to the students that learn evolution AND ID/creationism in this country?

What will be your conclusion if the data says that the students who learn creationism and evolution do better than the students who only learn creationism?

31 posted on 08/05/2009 3:00:42 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tpanther

Touch a nerve?


32 posted on 08/05/2009 3:26:21 PM PDT by FormerRep
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To: FormerRep

No, just reality. Does it ever penetrate?


33 posted on 08/05/2009 3:29:06 PM PDT by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for g!ood men to do nothing---Edmund Burke)
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To: tpanther

Ask yourself. Are you by any chance an educator? Statistician? Demographer? Pick any study of trend analysis other than raving wingnut.


34 posted on 08/05/2009 3:30:46 PM PDT by FormerRep
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To: FormerRep
I think a direct correlation may exist between the number of students in the US forced to consider theology as science and the relative failure to maintain excellence in biological sciences compared to other countries. Metmom proves the point that creationism in schools cause our kids to fail.

I'll bite. How? You have sources to back that up, especially since evolution only has had the monopoly in public education for decades? And that the public schools were cranking out far better educated students before creation was banned from them?

You are not in the position to demonstrate that teaching creation only in schools hindered scientific development in all the years prior to 1925.

BTW, thanks for the courtesy ping that evos always whine about when creationists don't do it for them.

35 posted on 08/05/2009 3:34:55 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom

My regrets on the courtesy ping.

The statement is tongue in cheek but if you insist on pressing the point. I have pre-WW2 text books. Oddly, not one reference to creationism is in them. Only science in the science books. The statement I made is about distraction - distraction from the real basis of science. Theology is not listed in it’s tenets.


36 posted on 08/05/2009 3:38:21 PM PDT by FormerRep
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To: goodusername
Intelligence arises from intelligence then? Yes, “intelligence” since Darwinism posits that all that humans are were and can be arises from evolutionary processes, whether accident, natural selection, religious belief, etc.

“Many of the leading Darwinist scientists are also Christians”.

If they claim to follow Christ's teachings then it would be proper to ask whether they believe and accept what he said in the Bible, would it not? Or will you argue that Christ was an evolutionist?

Or perhaps you are advocating intelligent design?

37 posted on 08/05/2009 3:39:38 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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Hmmm, my poor brainwashed, creation believing, evolution and creation together taught progeny, having the almost the highest grades in their classes when they went to public school for their senior year, have (in age order) a 1530 SAT score, a 30 out of 32 ACT score, a 32 out of 36 ACT score, with the oldest two being invited to be in the honors programs in their respective big name (you’d recognize them in a heartbeat) private, secular universities, with the youngest likely the same as she has better school grades that her siblings.

And all are science/engineering majors.

Yeah, teaching them creation sure hurt their chances. /s


38 posted on 08/05/2009 3:43:47 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom

Mostly because people like you and GGG demand too much study time be wasted on fairy tales.


39 posted on 08/05/2009 3:52:06 PM PDT by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: tacticalogic
What will be your conclusion if the data says that the students who learn creationism and evolution do better than the students who only learn creationism?

Uhhhh, this isn't remotely the issue! You are very insecure, did you know that?

But if it were, by some fantastical make believe alternate universe relevant question, just for kicks, I would expect students to do better with ALL the information, just to have the two to properly compare, which of the two is the stronger. It helps, after all to understand both before making these determinations, which of course aren't etched in stone anyway, when it comes to science.

But that's not what's happening now is it?

Why do you ask so many irrelevant questions like these that have nothing to do with the subject?

Moreover, it seems to me YOU need to answer several questions before this one can even be entertained! This is to put the cart way before the horse and even then, I don't recall seeing ONLY creationism taught in schools before God was kicked out.

PLAINLY the data indicates students do better if they learn both, and the reality is that you liberals demand they learn your cult and your cult only, and the very best your brain can offer up is this irrelevant strawman of a question in defense?

What a riot!

Can you show us where students ONLY learn or have ONLY been taught creationism?

Does it also completely escape you that this is precisely what we've been asking for and such an idiotic question can never even be answered let alone addressed until you sad people finally understand YOU are what's getting in the way of any answer you're asking?

40 posted on 08/05/2009 3:52:17 PM PDT by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for g!ood men to do nothing---Edmund Burke)
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To: metmom

Then their academic acheivements will get counted along with the rest of the country, against those students from other countries who don’t learn evolution at all.


41 posted on 08/05/2009 3:52:24 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tpanther
Uhhhh, this isn't remotely the issue!

The assertion is that teaching evolution has hurt our academic performance compared to the rest of the world.

The obvious test of that assertion is to compare our scientific and academic achievements against those of countries where they do not learn the theory of evolution.

42 posted on 08/05/2009 3:56:02 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: xcamel; GodGunsGuts; tpanther

And the lawsuits to keep God and creation out of school have been for the most part successful.

Go ahead. Show is the studies that demonstrate that what you say is the case; that teaching creation brings down grades, that there is even time spent in public schools teaching religion, or *fairy tales* if you will.

Send us links to the curriculum that the public schools use that does this so we can see it for ourselves.

Courtesy ping to GGG because another evo hypocritically neglected to courtesy ping someone when talking about them by name, or otherwise.


43 posted on 08/05/2009 3:56:05 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: tacticalogic

Fail.....


44 posted on 08/05/2009 3:56:54 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: tpanther

Utterly fascinating projection of a fairy tale with a fine seasoning of Spanish Inquisition tossed in for no good reason.


45 posted on 08/05/2009 3:57:31 PM PDT by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: metmom
Fail.....

Heh. You painted yourself into a corner, and all you can do is deny the outcome.

46 posted on 08/05/2009 4:00:19 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: metmom

teaching religion is theology, not science.
teaching creation, is a fairy tale.

The rest of it is just the usual overly wordy crevo blow and blather, hoping you make just enough noise to drown out reason.


47 posted on 08/05/2009 4:02:29 PM PDT by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: xcamel

Awwwwww....soreheaded you were cut off at the pass (and the knees again)?

No rebuttal, as usual.

But then again, how could there be.


48 posted on 08/05/2009 4:26:12 PM PDT by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for g!ood men to do nothing---Edmund Burke)
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To: FormerRep

Sir-project-alot...is it a tryout all you evo-cultists aspire to?


49 posted on 08/05/2009 4:28:13 PM PDT by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for g!ood men to do nothing---Edmund Burke)
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To: count-your-change

“Intelligence arises from intelligence then?”

—If God created the universe, than obviously, yes.

“If they claim to follow Christ’s teachings then it would be proper to ask whether they believe and accept what he said in the Bible, would it not? Or will you argue that Christ was an evolutionist?”

—I’ve seen many say exactly that. For example, Francis Collins (who headed the Human Genome Project and is now head of the NIH, thus arguable making him the leading Darwinist and simultaneously the leading advocate of intelligent design.) Collins wrote a book called “The Language of God” and started a foundation called “Biologos” which is kind of a counterpart to the Discovery Institute (Collins is also a leading opponent of Intelligent Design).

“Or perhaps you are advocating intelligent design?”

—As an atheist myself, I’m not advocating intelligent design; but I will say I don’t see a conflict between Darwinism and intelligent design. Darwinism merely says that species arise through natural forces. Thus Darwinism is no more an argument against God or intelligent design than, say, theories of how rainbows or snowflakes form naturally.


50 posted on 08/05/2009 4:29:17 PM PDT by goodusername
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