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Sebelius: Don't Sweat the Details
Townhall.com ^ | August 6, 2009 | Cal Thomas

Posted on 08/06/2009 4:53:12 AM PDT by Kaslin

Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius wrote an op-ed column for The Washington Post on Tuesday in defense of the Obama administration's efforts to "reform" health care. She wrote: "President Obama and I are working closely with Democrats and Republicans in the House and Senate and health care experts to make sure we get the details of health reform right. But we can't let the details distract us from the huge benefits that reform will bring."

So, the objective is all that matters, not the process by which we get there? The most important words on a contract may be in the small print. Secretary Sebelius tells us not to worry about such things, but trust your government leaders and anonymous "experts" and leave the rest to us. A growing number of Americans are saying "no thanks."

The details matter because they are about government deciding who gets treatment when they are sick and who does not, who lives and who dies. Are there any details more important than that? Why would anyone trust government with their health and life when there are so many things government already does poorly and inefficiently?

Sebelius and members of Congress are fanning out across the country, trying to defend a health care reform plan that is only partially written, unexplainable and still unread by many representatives and senators. In a joint appearance with Pennsylvania Senator Arlen Specter, Sebelius responded to shouts and catcalls from a skeptical audience at the Constitution Center in heavily Democratic Philadelphia. She said Specter shouldn't be criticized because the Senate's version of the bill has not yet been written. This takes hubris to a new level. It is one thing for a member of Congress to vote on legislation he hasn't read; it is quite another for government officials to ask for support of a bill that has not been written, at least in the Senate.

The attitude of the administration and supporters of its health care plan seems to be: "Take your medicine, and if you don't like it, or question its effectiveness, you will be sent to your room as punishment because we know better than you, even though 86 percent of you are perfectly happy with the health care you have now. Who are you to question us and our 'experts'?"

The more the public learns what is in the House bill, the less they like it. That's why the administration wants to rush this through Congress. The public mostly understands the need to reform the increasingly expensive current system. It just doesn't like the administration's plan.

There are other proposals that would achieve the end of reform while preserving the high-quality treatment that is the envy of the world and simultaneously affirming deeply held American values. It is no mystery what needs to be done to reduce costs and improve health delivery services.

As Rick Scott, chairman of Conservatives for Patients' Rights, has noted, "Americans want lower health care costs, not a government-run system. And there are several reforms we can do immediately to lower costs that won't cost a dime, (such as) allowing insurers to compete across state lines, requiring doctors and hospitals to post their rates and results to allow consumers to shop around, and creating one standardized reimbursement form for all insurers." Allowing employees to choose among several insurance policies (a choice available to federal workers, including Congress) would let individuals tailor policies to their needs, instead of forcing them to accept a one-size-fits-all policy. That, too, would reduce costs.

A grassroots uprising defeated the Bush administration's ill-conceived attempts at "comprehensive immigration reform." The groundswell against nationalized health care may have a similar end. If the liberal Democratic congressional leadership forces a bill through anyway, Republicans may have the issue they have been looking for to help them take back at least the House of Representatives in the 2010 election and to stop this "risky scheme" and other "out of the mainstream" programs.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Front Page News
KEYWORDS: bho44; bhohealthcare; bhohhs; calthomas; democrats; liberalfascism; obamacare; plantationhealthcare; sebelius; socializedmedicine

1 posted on 08/06/2009 4:53:12 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Translation:

“Listen to what we say. Don’t look at what we do.”


2 posted on 08/06/2009 4:55:37 AM PDT by Fresh Wind ("Prosperity is just around the corner." Herbert Hoover, 1932)
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To: Kaslin

and the authors of this health care reform are namely:
Dr. Death aka Ezekiel Emmanuel, Rahm Emmanuel his brother,
the New Black Panthers, LaRaza ,ACORN and ...............

add your group here


3 posted on 08/06/2009 4:57:22 AM PDT by MissDairyGoodnessVT ("Economy is the method by which we prepare today to afford the improvements of tomorrow"C.Coolidge)
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To: Kaslin

Trust us.

Can you believe this?


4 posted on 08/06/2009 4:58:45 AM PDT by Carley (OBAMA IS A MALEVOLENT FORCE IN THE WORLD)
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To: Kaslin

Yeah well, it will be the details that will kill us. As for abortomatic sabelius, she and her fellow travellers will not be affected by any of these laws. She will be allowed to live out her life while us serf are given end of life counseling.


5 posted on 08/06/2009 4:58:52 AM PDT by Texas resident ( Boys and Girls, it's us against them.)
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To: Kaslin
But we can't let the details distract us from the huge benefits that reform will bring."

Here's a detail for you Sebelius. Article 1 Section 8 of the Constitution lists all the powers granted to Congress by the Constitution. Nowhere in Article 1 Section 8 is regulating health care listed. This bill in any way shape or form is unconstitutional.
6 posted on 08/06/2009 4:59:38 AM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! FairTaxNation.com)
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To: Kaslin

Yeah, sure, just trust us.

Not this bunch of liars, crooks and thieves. Not now, not in a million years.


7 posted on 08/06/2009 4:59:38 AM PDT by kevinm13 (Tim Geithner is a tax cheat. Manmade "Global Warming" is a HOAX!)
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To: Kaslin

Why don’t they condense the bill to 1 page, with three words on it, large bold font, and centered: “Health Care Reform”. Then, vote on this 1- pager. I’d expect just about EVERY congresscritter to read it this time. And finally, once it is passed, then some czar character can fill in all the little details.


8 posted on 08/06/2009 5:00:22 AM PDT by C210N (A patriot for a Conservative Renaissance!)
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To: Fresh Wind

Coming from a Gov who left the state of Kansas broke. She is just like Obama. Don’t worry about the details.


9 posted on 08/06/2009 5:01:11 AM PDT by ncfool (Obama's Health care is Like Cash for Clunkers! Dead on Arrival.)
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To: Carley
No need to read the fine print.

Just sign

10 posted on 08/06/2009 5:01:16 AM PDT by TYVets
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To: Kaslin
“Republicans may have the issue they have been looking for to help them take back at least the House of Representatives in the 2010 election and to stop this “risky scheme” and other “out of the mainstream” programs.”
Republicans take note: We are fed up and tired of politicians, period. We will be sweeping the floor and doing as much housecleaning as we can manage. Reaching across the aisle for compromise and capitulation is the same as voting against the American taxpayers. Grow a spine and stand up for conservative values or be prepared to be replaced right along with the DemonRATs.
11 posted on 08/06/2009 5:04:37 AM PDT by bitterohiogunclinger (America held hostage - day 163)
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To: Kaslin

Just like all the “unsuspecting victims” that now find themselves in foreclosure because they didn’t realize their interest rate was going to double?


12 posted on 08/06/2009 5:04:57 AM PDT by jennyjenny
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To: Fresh Wind

The details are what’s going to kill you. Literally.

The absolutley cold-hearted statement that Grandma should “take a pill” instead of having a pacemaker installed. The deferral of treatment because of rationing, during which the condition worsens and reaches terminal state, in the instance of a number of progressive disorders. The outright abolition of Medicaid and Medicare, and throwing all these clients into the “public option”, when it is virtually guaranteed that nobody will be able to obtain privately-contracted policies, at ANY price.

And finally, placing mandates on private group insurance policies that will not apply to the “public option”.

Talk about rigging the game.


13 posted on 08/06/2009 5:05:32 AM PDT by alloysteel (Never let an inanimate object know that you are in a hurry.)
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To: Kaslin
Don't Sweat the Details

..and your next town hall appearance Secretary Airhead?

14 posted on 08/06/2009 5:07:12 AM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Man50D
Article 1 Section 8 of the Constitution lists all the powers granted to Congress by the Constitution. Nowhere in Article 1 Section 8 is regulating health care listed. This bill in any way shape or form is unconstitutional.

Haven't you heard? Congress can regulate and control health care through the Interstate Commerce Clause. You see, since I live in MO, when I go to a MO doctor, a doctor in Alaska isn't able to treat me, so I'm affecting HIS business, and the economy of Alaska. Since he's in a different state, I'm affecting interstate commerce. So congress must be in charge! Woo Hoo! Ain't it fun to be a congress-critter!

Mark

15 posted on 08/06/2009 5:09:07 AM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: C210N
Why don’t they condense the bill to 1 page, with three words on it, large bold font, and centered: “Health Care Reform”. Then, vote on this 1- pager. I’d expect just about EVERY congresscritter to read it this time. And finally, once it is passed, then some czar character can fill in all the little details.

Hush. Don't give them ideas.

16 posted on 08/06/2009 5:10:07 AM PDT by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: bitterohiogunclinger

Very well said


17 posted on 08/06/2009 5:10:09 AM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for 0bama: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Kaslin

What are the “Health Choices Administration,” “Bureau of Health Information,” “Accountable Care Organization” and “Health Benefits Advisory Committee”, to name a few? These and others are all in the current package.


18 posted on 08/06/2009 5:11:28 AM PDT by IrishMike (Liberalism is a psychological disorder and a dangerous mental illness.)
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To: Kaslin
Don't worry about the details. Don't fret, it's a wonderful gift from we gods to you little peasants. Nothing to hide.


19 posted on 08/06/2009 5:12:46 AM PDT by arasina (So there.)
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To: Man50D

Most of the liberals don’t even know the constitution


20 posted on 08/06/2009 5:13:42 AM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for 0bama: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Kaslin

Translation:

You are not smart enough to make decisions for this country - go back to sleep we’ll handle it for you.


21 posted on 08/06/2009 5:17:10 AM PDT by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51. Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: MarkL
Congress can regulate and control health care through the Interstate Commerce Clause

More socialist spin. The original intent of the interstate commerce clause was in regards to transportation of products across state lines to prevent wild price swings. This bill goes far beyond the scope of this intent. If it is strictly to prevent exorbitant pricing then the socialists need to explain the following: how mandating taxpayer funded abortions controls prices, taxpayer funding of medical care for illegal aliens, why federal officers will have full access to every citizen's private records. These are only a few examples. Clearly this socialist bill is meant to go far beyond the price control issue and therefore is unconstitutional.
22 posted on 08/06/2009 5:18:06 AM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! FairTaxNation.com)
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To: Kaslin
One more time...any discussion "to control costs" that doesn't include MSAs isn't a discussion about medical care or costs. It is a power grab by ruthless socialists. It is that simple.

Like the Fair Tax, MSAs give power to the people which libtards can't allow. Curious that a movement that really began with the phrase "power to the people" can't tolerate even the thought of actually allowing such a thing. Lying hypocrites is what libtards actually are and it would appear a sizable segment of "moderate America" is awakening to the fact.

Μολὼν λάβε


23 posted on 08/06/2009 5:18:53 AM PDT by wastoute (translation of tag "Come and get them (bastards)" and the Scout Motto)
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To: Kaslin
Most of the liberals don’t even know the constitution

They know enough to try and destroy the Constitution.
24 posted on 08/06/2009 5:20:26 AM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! FairTaxNation.com)
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To: Kaslin

This woman is my boss, and I trust her like I trust Madonna will enter a convent.


25 posted on 08/06/2009 5:21:01 AM PDT by Badabing Badablonde (New to the internet? CLICK HERE)
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To: Kaslin
Let's boil it down:

"Healthcare" consists of three major legs: Private insurers, Providers, and medical welfare.

The only reform government needs to concern it's little head with is medical welfare (the "American system")

They need to tighten the eligibility requirements for Medicaid, making sure that the truly needy get coverage, and to totally ban the practice of "cost shifting" by providers.

Regarding private coverage, Congress could also facilitate helping small business and individuals by allowing the purchase of health insurance across state lines, and allowing the formation of national association health plans.

26 posted on 08/06/2009 5:31:02 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (RATs...nothing more than Bald Haired Hippies!)
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To: Kaslin
"President Obama and I are working closely with Democrats and Republicans in the House and Senate and health care experts to make sure we get the details of health reform right. But we can't let the details distract us from the huge benefits that reform will bring."

Is not this the same woman who is a heretic and a baby killer? How can anything she says have credibility? To me, her heretical, deranged, demented and twisted logic to justify murder of the unborn (abortion) says it all.

27 posted on 08/06/2009 5:31:16 AM PDT by olezip
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To: Kaslin

All this effort to cover 8million people?


28 posted on 08/06/2009 5:41:23 AM PDT by ardara
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To: bitterohiogunclinger

“Republicans take note: We are fed up and tired of politicians, period. We will be sweeping the floor and doing as much housecleaning as we can manage”

Indeed. If an empty seat could win, I would vote for it. NO ONE in charge would be far better than these cretins.


29 posted on 08/06/2009 5:50:25 AM PDT by Pravious
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To: Pravious
Pay attention!

Most Republicans are opposing this. Those that don't should be taken out in a primary.

30 posted on 08/06/2009 5:53:14 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (RATs...nothing more than Bald Haired Hippies!)
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To: MarkL
Ain't it fun to be a congress-critter!

Yet another reason to insist on TERM LIMITS!

31 posted on 08/06/2009 5:54:07 AM PDT by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: Kaslin
But we can't let the details distract us from the huge benefits that reform will bring

So... the end justifies the means? Is that what I'm hearing?

32 posted on 08/06/2009 5:55:41 AM PDT by grobdriver (Proud Member, Party Of No! No Socialism - No Fascism - Nobama - No Way!)
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To: Kaslin
But we can't let the details distract us from the huge benefits that reform will bring

So... the end justifies the means? Is that what I'm hearing?

33 posted on 08/06/2009 5:55:42 AM PDT by grobdriver (Proud Member, Party Of No! No Socialism - No Fascism - Nobama - No Way!)
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To: grobdriver

That is exactly what they want you to hear


34 posted on 08/06/2009 6:06:05 AM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for 0bama: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Kaslin; All

“Most of the liberals don’t even know the constitution”

Most liberals think “Constitution” is what happens when you can’t go #2.

What’s worse than that, is that the libtards don’t realize that assistance with “Constitution” won’t be covered under Deathcare either.


35 posted on 08/06/2009 6:06:45 AM PDT by johncocktoasten (Practicing asymetrical thread warfare against anti-Palin Trolls)
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To: Fresh Wind

Exactly.

I can imagine Sebelius somewhere in Poland 1945....
“Welcome to our Concentrat....er...uuhh....SPA! Pay no attention to the gates, barbwire, and machine gun towers. They are needed for your protection. Now let us start your stay with us with a nice shower!”


36 posted on 08/06/2009 6:21:38 AM PDT by LeonardFMason
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To: ncfool

Not only did the witch (I refuse to use the word “bitch” because I will not insult female dogs when I refer to this feminoid thing) glory in the most gruesome form of abortion, but she also prevented construction of a 1,100 megawatt clean coal plant, thereby killing hundreds of immediate jobs and thousands more in the future.


37 posted on 08/06/2009 7:20:30 AM PDT by libstripper (LWOP)
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To: LeonardFMason

I think this means "Health care will be free"

38 posted on 08/06/2009 9:57:52 AM PDT by Fresh Wind ("Prosperity is just around the corner." Herbert Hoover, 1932)
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To: Kaslin
We should call her "Big Julie" Sebelius (of "Guys & Dolls"):
"Don't worry, I remember where the dots formerly were!"
Yeah, that's something I'd like to gamble all of our health care on . . .
39 posted on 08/06/2009 12:04:59 PM PDT by Nevermore (...just a typical cracker, clinging to my Constitutional rights...)
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To: Kaslin

How many years does Kathleen have until she’s sent to her own Soylent Green factory for “processing?”


40 posted on 08/06/2009 9:03:46 PM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: olezip
To me, her heretical, deranged, demented and twisted logic to justify murder of the unborn (abortion) says it all.

And the support of LATE-TERM abortions. A major contributer to her was Tiller the baby-killer from Kansas!

41 posted on 08/06/2009 9:48:05 PM PDT by boatbums (Pro-woman, pro-child, pro-life!)
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To: arasina; All


42 posted on 08/06/2009 10:32:17 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: DTogo; All
"How many years does Kathleen have until she’s sent to her own Soylent Green factory for “processing?” "


43 posted on 08/06/2009 10:37:27 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Kaslin

That woman fits right in with the Obama team. She is so clueless and arrogant it hurts to watch her!


44 posted on 08/06/2009 10:40:02 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Kaslin
"...But we can't let the details distract us from the huge benefits that reform will bring."

Ever hear the saying "the devil is in the details" Sebelius? Apparently not. Idiot.

45 posted on 08/06/2009 11:11:09 PM PDT by smedley64 (Sun Tzu trumps Alinsky.)
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To: Kaslin
She wrote: "President Obama and I are working closely with Democrats and Republicans in the House and Senate and health care experts to make sure we get the details of health reform right. But we can't let the details distract us from the huge benefits that reform will bring."

Man, what is she smoking? How can we be sure of what, if any, benefits reform will bring if we don't know any details? We are being asked to buy the biggest and most expensive pig-in-a-poke in history.

46 posted on 08/07/2009 5:56:18 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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